A Question re: Stephen Girard

It was a name assigned by train collectors (not Lionel) for the green used on the 424-426 series of passenger cars known as the 'Stephan Girard' cars.

Ron M

Like Ron said.  One of the pullmans in the 424-426 series cars was named "Stephen Girard" and collectors starting back in the fifties simply dubbed the color Stephen Girard Green.  Lionel never called it this and never referred to any set as the "Stephen Girard set" - it's just a term early tinplate collectors assigned to this color to separate it from the many different greens Lionel used. 

Hey, thanks!  That answers my question.  I was trying to search for the answer online, but what comes up is just "shopping" results and the cars themselves (you know the drill).  I do like the color a lot and am glad to finally own a set of them.

He was an aquaintance of George Washington, and he pretty much single-handedly bankrolled the American Revolution.  Surprising that he's not in every American history book.

As for "Stephen Girard Green", the sets are of course two shades of green - what Lionel calls two-tone green.  What's the other shade called?

I do not know. However, the Dark Green is the same as the dark green on the roof of a State Car.

Ron M most likely has a chart of Lionel color names and the collector names.

I think Apple Green is a collector name and Pea Green is the name Lionel used.

State green is a Collector name with Special Green the Lionel color.

Not sure if Girard Green refers to the light green on the cars or a reference too the paint scheme.

I would also like to see a chart of Lionel names for sets with Collector name. For example Lionel a State Set a Transcontinental Limited, Olympian and not sure if they ever called it a 20th Century Limited.

"Pea green" (dark) and "apple green" (light) are two different Lionel colors.

My TCA book calls the roof of the 9E in the Girard set Dark Green.

Lionel Greens

In the 1939 Lionel Replacement Parts book the followings green enamels were listed:

Green, Apple

Green, Dark

Green, Emerald

Green, Marine

Green, Olive

TCA's color chart shows nine different greens and two olives.

Have fun.

Ron M