AF Cylindrical Hopper Scale Conversion

Originally Posted by Mikeaa:

  I wonder which other prototype road names there were from that era.

 

 

Hi Mike, in the article, Jim Kindraka gives a small reference to your question.

 

Cyl Hoppers prototype

 

I know Lionel has now made some of these cars with actual roadnames instead of the original fantasy paint schemes. Below are examples of those. It would be interesting to compare Lionel's examples to the prototypes.

Burlington Northern 1/64 Scale Cylindrical Hopper

 

Mark

 

 

 

 

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"I'm not sure if these examples are perfect matches for the Lionel car but they do give some perspective as to which roads ran these type of hoppers'

 

   That MoPac car looks like it has different end ladders. Maybe a rebuild after a wreck? Atlas O made these same cars in O scale years ago, with both the 3 outlet and a 6 outlet style....DaveB

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Thanks, Mark and DaveB for the pictures.

 

It's really too bad that Lionel chose not to do the NYC car.  I really like the look.  They even mentioned it in one of their blogs as being the first one done in the US. 

 

I think the Canadian cars are pretty sweet, too, even though there is only one prototype of the rainbow cars.

 

Mike A.

 

Here's a photo of the NYC prototype from the article you referenced above:

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The one and only CN rainbow car:

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I think we have to allow Lionel a little poetic license here.

Some of the Canadian flavored paint schemes on the initial run of the 3 bay hoppers are a stretch in that it appears the cars were mostly of a 4 bay design.

I'm OK with that. 

The cars are very well done as delivered. I have now ordered the latest Canadian offerings and I'm told they will have the new High-rail trucks factory installed.

I would love to see this car in The 3-bay scheme even though I can't find any prototype pictures of the real thing. For all I know this model may be entirely fictitious but even so I'd order several if they had differing road numbers:

 

Mark

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Mikeaa:

 

 

The one and only CN rainbow car:

cn370708

Here's some completely useless trivia to clog your brain.

This car didn't carry grain.

The chemical formula on the car side is OCN(CH2)6NCO and describes what the car carried...Hexamethylene diisocyanate.

I'm no braniac by any measure but a little search brought up this:

"Hexamethylene diisocyanate is used to produce a polymer when combined with butanediol which is a crystal. The product is used in the production of plastics. Hexamethylene diisocyanate is also used in the production of enamel paints and gives it that hard shiny surface for a more durable finish and is used in automotive and aircraft paint. So in the car the product is combined with another to produce a compound used in the plastics industry."

Since these cars did not have water or liquid tight seals on the discharge chutes the product was probably in a pellet form.

OK now delete this from your brain so you have more room for model train info.

Mark

 

 

 

"The chemical formula on the car side is OCN(CH2)6NCO and describes what the car carried...Hexamethylene diisocyanate."

 

   Interesting that this one off car keeps getting produced, sorta like the old Jones and Laughlin tank cars that seemed to be copied over and over although they were relatively rare on real trains nationwide....DaveB

Originally Posted by Katyfan:

New member here. Recently switched to S scale after years in N. My layout got too big and trains too small

 

Anyway, banjoflyer, here's a link to prototype photos of the Katy cylindrical hopper in red.

 

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/mkt/bkty1009abp.jpg

 

and a link to the same type of hopper in John Deere green.

 

http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/mkt/bkty1010abp.jpg

 

 

Thanks Katyfan that's what I needed!

Now if we can just get Lionel to produce it...red or green or both!

Mark

 

 

 

Originally Posted by daveb:

 

   That MoPac car looks like it has different end ladders. Maybe a rebuild after a wreck? ...DaveB

 

 

The MoPac hopper is an early version of the cylindrical hopper.  I recall seeing one rolling through Soo Line's Schiller Park yard back in the 80's.  That's the only place I saw one, they seem to have been pretty rare.

 

AHM made a model of it in HO way back in the 60's.

 

Rusty

Originally Posted by daveb:

 

 

   Interesting that this one off car keeps getting produced, sorta like the old Jones and Laughlin tank cars that seemed to be copied over and over although they were relatively rare on real trains nationwide....DaveB

I suspect that this car gets frequent attention from manufacturers simply due to it's unconventional paint scheme and startling colors.

Joshua Lionel Cohen said it best in response to a question...

From Wikipedia:

"William Walthers, a large seller of model railroads, asked Cowen in 1929 why Lionel painted its trains bright and unrealistic colors. Cowen said the majority of trains were purchased by mothers for their children, and the bright colors attracted women buyers."

That may not hold as true today but I routinely seek out colorful cars.

A few tuscan red or brown boxcars goes a long way. Color always sparks interest in the casual viewer:

 

I have one of these and while it's a hopelessly childish car it gets the most interest and compliments from kids when they see my layout.

Mark

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Katyfan:

New member here. 

 

 

Hi Joe. Just a heads up...the webmaster will probably pull down your avitar of the MKT shield. I tried to use a similar shield instead of a picture and they pulled it down. I think they would rather have an actual picture of the person or have you just use the generic picture provided.

Just sayin...

Mark

 

 

 

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