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Skip, I'm tried looking through the locomotive database pictures last night of the Central's Pacific and none had the hood. I think Pete(Norton) had said that the Central didn't actually have this version of the USRA Pacific's, sort of hard to remember being that was near the beginning of this year.

I sort of wonder of the Cardinal will have the hood as well. I do remember either Pete or Pat(Harmonyards) had posted the real picture of the Cardinal. Maybe search that on the forum here and see if there are any results. Other option would be to see if either of them or many of the railroad scholars know.

While Lionel is calling them USRAs they are actually pretty close to some of the NYC early Pacifics. Cab number puts them in a K3 class but I can’t read what class Lionel put on the cab of these engines. As for the headlight you could swap it for one off the Hudsons. Lionel has been using the wrong headlight on those forever but they are correct for this engine.

Pete

Thanks for the information Pete, I knew you knew more about these since we had already discussed quite a bit when the catalog came out.

As Pete mentioned, these new Pacifics are indeed a little closer to a NYC prototype,….not 100% but I’d say passable…..pilots and ladders suggest K3g class,..probably take minimal effort to make it “convincing” …..early CENTURY heavyweights would really suggest the “ time before the great Hudsons” …..when the K class was supreme ….

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

As Pete mentioned, these new Pacifics are indeed a little closer to a NYC prototype,….not 100% but I’d say passable…..pilots and ladders suggest K3g class,..probably take minimal effort to make it “convincing” …..early CENTURY heavyweights would really suggest the “ time before the great Hudsons” …..when the K class was supreme ….

Pat

When they released the catalog, I was really hoping for something Central. The Cardinal just wasn't cutting it for me. Good thing Steve offered this one up in all black. At least we knew the color scheme would most certainly be right.

When they released the catalog, I was really hoping for something Central. The Cardinal just wasn't cutting it for me. Good thing Steve offered this one up in all black. At least we knew the color scheme would most certainly be right.

The various designs of Steve’s special runs required distinct black, graphite, and silver to be used based on the particular model.  Having seen them in person, Lionel appears to have stuck the landing perfectly on each of them. Hopefully, this bodes well for the catalog versions and future models.

The various designs of Steve’s special runs required distinct black, graphite, and silver to be used based on the particular model.  Having seen them in person, Lionel appears to have stuck the landing perfectly on each of them. Hopefully, this bodes well for the catalog versions and future models.

I certainly hope so. That was the big question asked at York by Skip, and seeing that this run looks to be good in the colors, hopefully the other stuff coming will be great as well(even if they have clown 🤡 trains coming).

I'm curious of how long it is going to take before the blue version of the B&O gets through Harry Heike's hands(and brushes). I believe Steve ordered one in blue for himself as well, so when they get back, he'll definitely announce it. I just can't wait, wish it was here already, lol.

Dave, I’m the last guy who should be commenting on painting, but I’m guessing it will be a major project to paint them. The Vandy tender alone would be a huge job given all the intricate details.

IDK, I think Steve had either commented somewhere or maybe when he emailed/talked to me. If your good at something, it is pretty routine to you and may not be as annoying if it were someone doing it the first or second time. Harry has been doing all sorts of painting for quite sometime, and I would guess he does know what he's doing. If it were me, blue would probably come out green.

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