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@AlanRail posted:


Using a phone app instead of a CAB. .  I like that!  BUT that Means no more income from CAB sales.

He did say CAB1L will be around for "years to come". And I do hope that's true. I would think the profit margin is decent on that thing given it's simpler design.

Honestly, after reading the article, I'm just glad to see everything finally land under one roof.

I just read the article in run 322, Dave Olson wrote and it’s an impressive article and it sounds like he (The Lionel Team) has our interest in mind, with the All New Cab 3 System. I met Dave and Ryan at York several years ago when they introduced the Sante Fe Steamer, brass hybrid model. He showed me all of the unique advantages of this locomotive with Blue Tooth control, and I made the purchase, and am very happy with this steamer. I’m excited about this new control system and I hope that TM Productions, or OGR makes an instructional video teaching us how to implement this system into our layout. Great thread. Happy Railroading Everyone

I think this was inevitable, considering the original TMCC was around since 1995, Legacy since 2007... I figured the components for the Cab2 were getting close to obsolescence. I'll hold out on the 'bridge' as long as my Legacy continues to work.

I surprised it took as long as it did to incorporate Bluetooth into the upper end Legacy products. I remember when Williams/Bachmann introduced Bluetooth control and thought why Lionel hadn't done something like that.

@DaveP posted:

I surprised it took as long as it did to incorporate Bluetooth into the upper end Legacy products. I remember when Williams/Bachmann introduced Bluetooth control and thought why Lionel hadn't done something like that.

Williams didn't have command control, it was a major advance for them to have remote control.  Lionel Legacy already has excellent remote control, so it wasn't as urgent a need as it was for Williams.

It’s a great article and just shows how much time and effort Dave and the whole engineering team put into this. From the article it doesn’t look like they were searching to discontinue the Cab-2 but with as old as it is then this Covid situation basically put the last nail in the coffin. With that I hope once this is out and stable they can revisit the Cab-2 or a physical Cab-3. Might just be a pipe dream but I’ll keep my fingers crossed

We've all heard this bit of practical wisdom ... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

My modest-size train layout is wired for TMCC, the initial version:
* PowerHouse, 135w
*  Command Base
*  PowerMaster
*  CAB1.
I'll keep it in service for as long as it works, then shift to the CAB1L version.

Years ago, I bought some Lionel LEGACY locos, not because I wanted/needed LEGACY technology, but because they were Rock Island locos - my  favorite RR.  However, those locos require larger radius curvatures than my current layout (built years later in a space-limited Train Room) could provide. They are on display on the wall -- eager to run if/when I expand the Train Room as a larger addition to the house. That's a BIG if/when ...

Mike Mottler   LCCA 12394

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@BillYo414 posted:

He did say CAB1L will be around for "years to come". And I do hope that's true. I would think the profit margin is decent on that thing given it's simpler design.

Honestly, after reading the article, I'm just glad to see everything finally land under one roof.

I wish the CAB1L supported a slider for the whistle/horn. I feel like the control of the whistle is the biggest feature the Cab2 boasts.

Further to MartyE's comment above about CAB1L's ability to 'quill' the whistle/horn, the Owner's Manual that came with the CAB-1L & BASE-1L Combo I bought a few years ago states in part "Hold down the SET key and press the WSTL/HRN key to toggle the whistle configuration between TMCC1 and LEGACY style for the current engine or train.  The CAB-1L will beep once if the TMCC1 whistle style is selected, or it will beep twice if the LEGACY quilling whistle is selected instead."

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