I have been running this A-B-A LionChief Plus FT, for about a week, I have some major issues. Does anyone sell a “LionChief Plus Companion • 3rd Edition".  lol  = Model Train Joke.    

See photo below, Click on photo to enlarge.LionChief Plus FT Cover Photo

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I'll write one for you right now.  

JohnGalt's LC+ companion:  

1. place engine on the track.  2, apply power to track.  3. turn on remote.  4.  have fun.  

The end.  

In seriousness, though, there is a lot of things about LC/+ that would be interesting to write about, unfortunately all of it is general information that applies to all other model trains, or is stuff that is so technical that it applies only to folks that like to dig into the guts of things and learn how they work.   For the average user,  I think the most confusing aspect of LionChief will be the universal remote, but I suspect that it will come with more than adequate documentation out of the box.  

JGL

 

Mr. Galt you will need to write a 4th edition, you forgot to mention to put 3 AAA batteries in the remote!

 

MIKATT1 posted:

Mr. Galt you will need to write a 4th edition, you forgot to mention to put 3 AAA batteries in the remote!

Hi Mr. MIKATT1 - The old saying "Batteries not included" but they do give us help in the OGR Ad Banner, The other guy is no where to be found.

LionChief Plus Ad Banner 

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Hi Trainroomgary, you don't have any videos of your new A-B-A LionChief Plus FT do you? I'm thinking about picking up the Santa Fe set and I was curious about how it sounds and looks.

BNSF-Matt posted:

Hi Trainroomgary, you don't have any videos of your new A-B-A LionChief Plus FT do you? I'm thinking about picking up the Santa Fe set and I was curious about how it sounds and looks.

Hi BNSF-Matt - I have a very well done You Tube Video, that will be published to You Tube on January 8th., 2016 at about 2:00 AM EST. Below is the title page. I am doing the final edit process at this time. I just took a iMovie Class at the Apple Store and learned all kinds of new procedures, that will be used in this video. This is going to be my best YT Video, hope you can watch and enjoy.

LionChief Plus 4 FT Rio Grande Thumbnail

 

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Nice!

Still hoping to see some pics/reviews on the newly released Lion Chief Plus E-33 Electrics. I know someone here posted a few shots last week. Considering adding one of those to my LC+ roster.

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johnstrains posted:
Nice! Still hoping to see some pics/reviews on the newly release Lion Chief Plus E-33 Electrics. I know someone here posted a few shots last week. Considering adding one of those to the LC+ roster.

Hi johnstrains • OGR Forum Member Mike W., did a thread on the LionChief Plus New Haven E-33, this week. This link should take you to his tread. If it does not work after I post, I will come back and fix the link.

CLICK HERE for the NEW HAVEN E-33

I also like the E-33, I saw it this week on You Tube, but I can not find it, because it was part of a operating session at a home layout, and the video creator did not put in in the title or tags.

It is sold in 4 road names, what road name are you looking for?

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/t...18#48171004110147718

He also has the E-33 Conrail.

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johnstrains posted:
Nice! Still hoping to see some pics/reviews on the newly release Lion Chief Plus E-33 Electrics. I know someone here posted a few shots last week. Considering adding one of those to the LC+ roster.

Hi johnstrains - I think we are talking about the same post. Just saw your post on Mike W's thread. I am making chaos. Anyways; what road name do you like? 

Gary and

DETROIT AND MACKINAC RAILWAY Cheers from PASSENGER CAR v6

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Thanks, Gary.

I'd probably go with the Virginian livery.  A nice throwback to a Lionel PW classic. Going to give the train budget a breather for a while but will be keeping my eyes open for some nice pricing on these.

I got the New Haven E33   LC+....so far so good.   Better speed control on grade than my LC+ Hudson...maybe because that tender is heavy.

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I just picked up my Atlantic Coast Line FT set. Nice looking set. There are some oddities and comments I have however:

1. Lionel has been using clear snap-in porthole lenses forever. That's how they showed the FT's in the catalog. For some reason, they ended up blacked out. The portholes are solid opaque black. Very strange looking.

2. Like most Lionel diesels with the smoke fluid catch basin under the shell (officially called a smoke manifold), it leaks fluid out all over the place. The smoke fluid will sheet out, working its way along the inside of the shell. I sealed the perimeter of the manifold where it contacts the shell, with gas can sealant which is just about the only thing that stops smoke fluid from leaking. Works great now.

3. The Lionchief FT's continue the ongoing, and odd practice that Lionel has of equipping engines with magne-traction as an undocumented feature. The GP7's and RS-3's also have magne-traction. Even more strangely, all four axles on the non-powered unit also have powerful magne-traction.

4. I like the horn. It's a nice single note horn. Much better than the raspy multi-chime horn on the older FT's with Trainsounds.

GregR posted:

I just picked up my Atlantic Coast Line FT set. Nice looking set. There are some oddities and comments I have however:

 

Hi GregR - Well done report, thanks for the tip on the smoke unit.

GregR posted:

I just picked up my Atlantic Coast Line FT set. Nice looking set. There are some oddities and comments I have however:

1. Lionel has been using clear snap-in porthole lenses forever. That's how they showed the FT's in the catalog. For some reason, they ended up blacked out. The portholes are solid opaque black. Very strange looking

Hi GregR - Below is a photo of the blacked out portholes from my Rio Grande, could you please post a photo of your Atlantic Coast Line, so we can see how it looks with the purple on the ACL. I am a toy train layout and my wife is from Colorado, so I will make this work.

Someday this issue will become a Lionel Trivia Question, Who made the changes to the FT - Line. This side of the Pacific or the other side of the Pacific Ocean?

Thanks Gary - Click on photo to enlarge.LionChief Plus A Unit

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trainroomgary posted:
GregR posted:

I just picked up my Atlantic Coast Line FT set. Nice looking set. There are some oddities and comments I have however:

1. Lionel has been using clear snap-in porthole lenses forever. That's how they showed the FT's in the catalog. For some reason, they ended up blacked out. The portholes are solid opaque black. Very strange looking

Hi GregR - Below is a photo of the blacked out portholes from my Rio Grande, could you please post a photo of your Atlantic Coast Line, so we can see how it looks with the purple on the ACL. I am a toy train layout and my wife is from Colorado, so I will make this work.

Someday this issue will become a Lionel Trivia Question, Who made the changes to the FT - Line. This side of the Pacific or the other side of the Pacific Ocean?

Thanks Gary - Click on photo to enlarge.LionChief Plus A Unit

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Here is the ACL Lionchief Plus set. As you can see, the portholes are blacked out also. Wish they had just provided the clear windows like they showed in the catalog. That is not an unreasonable expectation. Making them black is probably just a temporary measure while they rework the tooling to fill in the holes with plastic as part of the shell, to cut corners on cost. Then they can just rubber stamp something resembling windows on the side.

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Picked up the Santa Fe FT LionChief+ set at my local train shop this afternoon. I plan on getting the "B" unit in the next few weeks.

  1. They look beautiful and they are a lot larger than I thought they would be.
  2. They sound fantastic and the horn is great.
  3. The portholes are indeed dark, but I'm ok with it.
  4. The one and only disappointment I have is that both engines share the same road number #164. Was this to save money? the Lionel website states #164 and #161, but they are both indeed #164.

 

 

 

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SuperChiefer84 posted:

Would it be possible to change out the port holes with clear ones from a regular ft?

Yes: 

LionChief Plus FT A Clear Port Holes

Yes it is possible to install clear port holes.  Lionel may have this part. This is the link to contact Lionel • Talk to Us.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/ContactUs/

If they do hot have the clear port hole windows, you will have to custom make them.

Hope this helps: Gary

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