Work continues on 1309.
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Next is the "difficult" job of rolling, beading, and welding, which requires some REAL expertise.
Very cool, Western Maryland! Wishing you guys continued success in your work.
How about an east coast - west coast Mallet meetup someday, somewhere .... when UP 4014 is running? 
EBT Jim posted:Very cool, Western Maryland! Wishing you guys continued success in your work.
How about an east coast - west coast Mallet meetup someday, somewhere .... when UP 4014 is running?
UP 4014 is NOT a Mallet!
Um, 1309 will probably never leave WMSR rails now. CSX is VERY unfriendly to steam, especially with Hunter Harrison now in charge. They probably won't allow any UP steam, either. Is the target date for operation of 1309 still September?
You'll be lucky to see 1309 before Halloween, and it will probably just be test runs...
I'd be shocked to see it operate any sooner...far too many variables at play.
SP guys continued to call the articulated consolidations "Back-up Malleys" long after the low pressure cylinders went to the scrap heap.
But I agree - Big Boy is not a Mallet.
Hot Water posted:EBT Jim posted:Very cool, Western Maryland! Wishing you guys continued success in your work.
How about an east coast - west coast Mallet meetup someday, somewhere .... when UP 4014 is running?
UP 4014 is NOT a Mallet!
Whoa! Bold font in red!
My mistake .... it is not a Mallet.
How about a meetup of eastern - western articulated's some day?
EBT Jim posted:Hot Water posted:EBT Jim posted:Very cool, Western Maryland! Wishing you guys continued success in your work.
How about an east coast - west coast Mallet meetup someday, somewhere .... when UP 4014 is running?
UP 4014 is NOT a Mallet!
Whoa! Bold font in red!
My mistake .... it is not a Mallet.
How about a meetup of east coast - west coast articulated's some day?
Don't count on THAT either, as the UP 4000 class locomotives were/are WAY TOO big to venture eastward. When the UP Challenger 3985 visited the Clinchfield RR, the clearances were even a bit tight for her, as she nicked a hopper car on a siding in a sharp curve.
Hot Water posted:EBT Jim posted:Hot Water posted:EBT Jim posted:Very cool, Western Maryland! Wishing you guys continued success in your work.
How about an east coast - west coast Mallet meetup someday, somewhere .... when UP 4014 is running?
UP 4014 is NOT a Mallet!
Whoa! Bold font in red!
My mistake .... it is not a Mallet.
How about a meetup of east coast - west coast articulated's some day?
Don't count on THAT either, as the UP 4000 class locomotives were/are WAY TOO big to venture eastward. When the UP Challenger 3985 visited the Clinchfield RR, the clearances were even a bit tight for her, as she nicked a hopper car on a siding in a sharp curve.
...which is a perfect example of knowledge being lost over 40 years. In the steam era, Clinchfield management knew exactly what the tolerances of the Challengers were. Twenty years after the fact when they needed to extend a siding around a "sharp" curve to accommodate longer trains, the clearance concerns of a Challenger never entered into the equation. Bring one back, the knowledge is lost, and you end up with a sideswipe.
Kevin
J 611 posted:Work continues on 1309.
Thank you for the update. This second photo clearly shows the swedging of the tube end.
Nick Chillianis posted:J 611 posted:Work continues on 1309.
Thank you for the update. This second photo clearly shows the swedging of the tube end.
Then they must be installing that tube backwards.
Just looks like that end has been cleaned/ground. That end has not been swedged.
N&W Class J posted:Just looks like that end has been cleaned/ground. That end has not been swedged.
Exactly. The swedged, i.e. smaller, end is on the firebox end of the tubes, and thus is inserted into the rear tube sheet, which has the smaller diameter holes..
A lot of experts chiming in. I like to see these photos of work actually being done. As to clearances -it is my understanding that the track alignments on Horseshoe Curve in Pa. are different in the diesel age than they were during steam. How many other track alignments are changed plus even ROWs being moved over the years without being recorded.
How does WMSR know that the 1309 will be able to handle the line to Frostburg? The curves, etc.? It never ran or was tested on that line before. Hope they fixed that landslide before Frostburg so that the weight of the 1309 doesn't cause another one and tumbles down the hill.
Robert K posted:How does WMSR know that the 1309 will be able to handle the line to Frostburg? The curves, etc.? It never ran or was tested on that line before.
The C&O operated many of the H-4, H-5, and H-6 class compound 2-6-6-2 locomotives on far worse curves & grades (even double-headed) than what the WMSR has. Again, you might want to do some research into the C&O coal branch lines and how they used their 2-6-6-2 steam locomotives.
Robert K posted:How does WMSR know that the 1309 will be able to handle the line to Frostburg? The curves, etc.? It never ran or was tested on that line before. Hope they fixed that landslide before Frostburg so that the weight of the 1309 doesn't cause another one and tumbles down the hill.
A 9 degree curve on the Chesapeake & Ohio is the same as a 9 degree curve on the Western Maryland or anywhere else. The specs and tolerances (curvature, axle loadings, etc) on that railroad are known. The specs and tolerances of the 1309 are known.
Give the Western Maryland Scenic a little bit of credit--they aren't going to restore an engine that won't run on that railroad.
Kevin
Robert K posted:How does WMSR know that the 1309 will be able to handle the line to Frostburg? The curves, etc.? It never ran or was tested on that line before. Hope they fixed that landslide before Frostburg so that the weight of the 1309 doesn't cause another one and tumbles down the hill.
1) Same as the apparently popular "how will they turn it, it won't fit on the turntable" question. It fits, it will likely run just fine. Plus, don't you think they would've thought of that before even dragging it out of the B&O Museum?
2) The landslide was fixed a long time ago and they've been running to Frostburg all year, if not more.
