Yay P42s !!!!!!!!!!
Viewliner-Amfleet Run2, and Superliners too !!! Wow !!! Absolutely awesome day with the news of these offerings !!!
Thanks Scott
@sdmann posted:Transition cars are Superliner IIs, we are doing Superliner Is this round. IIs in the future.
Sound reasonable?
Regarding Dummy Diesels, we will never do them as they cost almost as much to make and very hard to sell if left over. FL9s taught us a big lesson.
Regarding DCS: If an MTH Licensed Repair / Dealer wants to offer some of these post production, converted to DCS, that would be the way to get that done. There are few dealers that are interested in doing that.
Regarding Further Schemes: We consider them when we see enough orders in general. E-60s showed promise on the forum regarding enthusiasm, but only resulted in 60 reservation after 1 year on the reservation page. Amtrak (Matt) said, if your not going to make it, take it down, so we did.
Nice to get a bit more clarification on the E-60's. I actually didn't realize that the reservations were up for a year, so I understand why they got canned; hopefully the project can be started up again in the future.
Even though I have a bunch of dummies in my train collection (being a traditional-sized collector, they come naturally 
), I actually like that you guys just make powered units and that's that. IMHO I wish that any sets of diesels can come with all powered locomotives, at least as an option. I want my locomotives to actually help in pulling stuff, and not just get dragged around for appearance purposes only. And this isn't a jab at anyone that wants dummies, just putting in my $.02. Also Scott, do your locomotives still have the switch on the bottom that allows you to change the direction in which the locomotive goes when you start it up on conventional control?
And with all that out of the way, I actually did not expect to see more Amtrak stuff being up for reservation so soon, at least not until next year. I'm honestly very shocked, and also afraid for my finances, haha. I'm also glad to hear you sold out of the Amfleets too 
The SDP40F is a must have. Maybe 2 of them. Perhaps my favorite Amtrak locomotive.
For the P42’s... it would be nice to have both snowplow and non snowplow pilots available at least for scale pilots!
Pics of P42s now posted on 3rd Rail web page !!!! Yay !!!! Nice Choices !!!!!
Folks,
I've posted unreserved left over Amfleet / Viewliners on the following page:
http://www.goldengatedepot.com/reacar-buy.html
First come first serve.
Remaining stand-by orders will be applied to the 2nd run.
R
@sdmann posted:Folks,
I've posted unreserved left over Amfleet / Viewliners on the following page:
http://www.goldengatedepot.com/reacar-buy.html
First come first serve.
Remaining stand-by orders will be applied to the 2nd run.
R
Email sent on Amfleet PH2!
Thank you Scott......Your leftover View Liner II Baggage car came today in perfect condition. It goes very well with my K-Line huge Superliners.
Now I'm waiting for your Amtrak P42's
Clem
Just wanted to point out that while Atlas O recently announced P42s, the price is so high that to me it makes the 3rd Rail version a no brainer. Only $280 more for fixed pilots, scale trucks, accurate details, etc.
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@Will Ebbert posted:Just wanted to point out that while Atlas O recently announced P42s, the price is so high that to me it makes the 3rd Rail version a no brainer. Only $280 more for fixed pilots, scale trucks, accurate details,
Not only that, I'm not sure what Atlas was thinking with the "matching" Amfleets. You can't get them in Phase VI which would make it prototypical, even for 18" cars.
I don't want to hijack this thread for an Atlas product, but the prospect of running some of these fantasy scheme Amfleets with the GGD Genesis is intriguing to me.
Will rightly points out that Atlas' price point on their model is precipitously close to the GGD price point; indeed, the only reason I would even consider the Atlas model, really, is for PS3 compatibility out of the box.
But those fantasy schemes are intriguing to me, and if I'm not mistaken that Phase V scheme is actually very, very close to the Acela Regional scheme that Amtrak very briefly ran in the early 2000's. I may actually get a set of those Amfleets for the GGD Genesis to pull.
Rafi
@Rafi posted:I don't want to hijack this thread for an Atlas product, but the prospect of running some of these fantasy scheme Amfleets with the GGD Genesis is intriguing to me.
Will rightly points out that Atlas' price point on their model is precipitously close to the GGD price point; indeed, the only reason I would even consider the Atlas model, really, is for PS3 compatibility out of the box.
But those fantasy schemes are intriguing to me, and if I'm not mistaken that Phase V scheme is actually very, very close to the Acela Regional scheme that Amtrak very briefly ran in the early 2000's. I may actually get a set of those Amfleets for the GGD Genesis to pull.
Rafi
The offering in Phase V is quite interesting! I always thought the splotch scheme was neat. I bought a run of the Nicholas Smith MTH ones maybe a year or two back. They're quite colorful.
The PS3 inside the Atlas units are a big draw, and I wish that was an option with the ones from GGD which will most certainly be nicer in every way.
I might be doing the opposite of you. I have a collection of the MTH P42s and I cannot wait to put in a reservation for the GGD Superliner Is once more things come to light (mainly if Superliner IIs will follow soon after)
Scott has already said Superliner IIs will follow the Is. Go ahead and put in an order. We had little info on the Viewliners and those were a grand slam, I fully expect the same here.
@P42Amtrak83 posted:The offering in Phase V is quite interesting! I always thought the splotch scheme was neat. I bought a run of the Nicholas Smith MTH ones maybe a year or two back. They're quite colorful.
The PS3 inside the Atlas units are a big draw, and I wish that was an option with the ones from GGD which will most certainly be nicer in every way.
I might be doing the opposite of you. I have a collection of the MTH P42s and I cannot wait to put in a reservation for the GGD Superliner Is once more things come to light (mainly if Superliner IIs will follow soon after)
I'm actually in a similar conundrum with the engines. I have two MTH DCS premier P42s (Phase IV and V) that I have every intention of keeping, and now I'm faced with a choice: get GGD P42s to augment that fleet and if I run doubleheads, it could look...weird. Or...do I go with Atlas' new stuff and rest assured that things will look consistent, but know in the back of my head that I could have had much better-looking, more realistic engines. The Superliners are so enticing, too, as they've always been on my "one day" wish list.
In a perfect world, money would be no object and I'd just outfit my whole fleet with the GGD stuff and sell off my old MTH stuff, but the world ain't perfect. <sigh>
On the flip side, how fortunate we are that we have Lionel, Atlas and GGD putting out some fantastic looking Amtrak equipment in O scale! If someone announces a Charger or Sprinter, I'll probably need to be committed.
Rafi
@Rafi posted:I'm actually in a similar conundrum with the engines. I have two MTH DCS premier P42s (Phase IV and V) that I have every intention of keeping, and now I'm faced with a choice: get GGD P42s to augment that fleet and if I run doubleheads, it could look...weird. Or...do I go with Atlas' new stuff and rest assured that things will look consistent, but know in the back of my head that I could have had much better-looking, more realistic engines. The Superliners are so enticing, too, as they've always been on my "one day" wish list.
In a perfect world, money would be no object and I'd just outfit my whole fleet with the GGD stuff and sell off my old MTH stuff, but the world ain't perfect. <sigh>
On the flip side, how fortunate we are that we have Lionel, Atlas and GGD putting out some fantastic looking Amtrak equipment in O scale! If someone announces a Charger or Sprinter, I'll probably need to be committed.
Rafi
I hear you completely!
You're right, you'd certainly would need two of the same brand P42s for it to look right. I'm a bit attached to the sounds of the Protosound system.
I've got a bunch of MTH P42s. I had a 50th anniversary unit custom painted just before the 3rd Rail announcement. I think I had it running a week before the announcement. I got it to go with my Viewliners.
I'm with you, in a perfect world, I'd have all GGD stuff haha. But reality is, I can't swing it...as much as I want to.
I suppose I have a decision between the MTH engines I have with a nice consist of 21" cars or two amazing P42s with a consist of 18" cars I have already.
I'll take out a loan if GGD comes out with next-gen motive power. Haha
Well the question regarding the P42 quanundrum is
1] how much more detail is one gonna get on a GGD P42 compared to the MTH/Atlas O P42 with a msrp difference of $280.00 per unit.
A previous comparison would be Sunset vs. MTH premier ALCo PA-1's. Bodywise there was no difference that really stood out. It was the details such as simulated sealed beam headlight [ss] vs. Plastic lense with 3mm led insert [mth]. Trainline and air hose details on the pilot [ss]
And the big one. No swinging pilot and gap for Sunset models
2] the GGD will be using the ERR reverse and Railsounds GE Dash 9 sound file. Will the Atlas O units have DCS?
What's the delivery date for Atlas O units as their current locomotive delivery history for the past decade has been sketchy at best.
Sunset/GGD track record is once reservations close, 6-10 months til delivery.
@P42Amtrak83 posted:I hear you completely!
You're right, you'd certainly would need two of the same brand P42s for it to look right. I'm a bit attached to the sounds of the Protosound system.
I'm with you, in a perfect world, I'd have all GGD stuff haha. But reality is, I can't swing it...as much as I want to.
I suppose I have a decision between the MTH engines I have with a nice consist of 21" cars or two amazing P42s with a consist of 18" cars I have already.
I'll take out a loan if GGD comes out with next-gen motive power. Haha
In regards to GGD vs MTH superliners is there really is NO COMPARISON!
For the price point, one really gets their moneys worth with as much details on a $350.00/GGD car than anything on the market! From the correct window configuration to the correct trucks for that passenger car and 10 figures per car included as well!
The question one really has to ask is can you run 21"passenger cars that really need 072 or larger diameter curves? If you can. Than go for the GGD stuff if you love scale. You will not look back once you do!
Personally a distant second to GGD superliners would be the K-line21" cars followed by the Lionel 18" Amtrak superliner sets painted only in 2 flavors- phase II and phase IV.
@Will Ebbert posted:Just wanted to point out that while Atlas O recently announced P42s, the price is so high that to me it makes the 3rd Rail version a no brainer. Only $280 more for fixed pilots, scale trucks, accurate details, etc.
Atlas is offering 2-rail models. So I am guessing that these would have fixed pilots and the announcement mentions Proto 3-2 conversion capable. Also Forum Sponsors are offering a preorder price around $570. So you could get something good enough for less than what the Sunset models cost.
These are just my opinion,
Naveen Rajan
The proportions still never seemed right to me. Plus MTH never did a 2 rail version so it's possible it won't be a fixed pilot, just different electronics. I'll stick with what I know will be spot on.
@Will Ebbert posted:The proportions still never seemed right to me. Plus MTH never did a 2 rail version so it's possible it won't be a fixed pilot, just different electronics. I'll stick with what I know will be spot on.
Atlas O themselves posted in another thread that they're tooling a fixed pilot for it.
