@Mark Boyce posted:Another good one, Arnold! I have lots of coal hoppers, but no gondolas. I’ll post photos and a story at a later time!
Mark, Don McErlean deserves full credit for this thread because it was his idea including the title. All I did was start this thread for him as stated in the OP. Arnold
@Lionelski posted:A double Lionel PostWar NYC gond. Can you guess what the load is?
Im guessing the load is a bunch of these;
Penn-pacific, I enlarged Lionelski's photo and believe you are correct.
@Arnold D. Cribari posted:Now it's time to see one of the best gondolas I have. This one is modern, with a load, and very well made with heft so it tends to be very stable when rolling down the line:
It's either a Lionel or MTH car. It has markings for the NY Central and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the P & L E stands for Pittsburgh and Lake Erie Division of the NY Central.
Looks to me like an MTH RailKing gondola. They're the only commonly available gondolas in 3RO that are that low-slung. I myself have a couple, both in Southern Ry. I also have five of Lionel's humongous (by comparison) 66' mill gondolas. You can actually sit a 'traditional'-size gon completely within one of those monsters.
---PCJ
Hello, well I promised I would be back tomorrow but as I was sitting down to read some of the posts, I realized that I had a gondola sitting right on my desk from some earlier investigations. It is a Hornby, Type 20. In 1954, Hornby announced that the M0 line of trains, Hornby's bottom or least expensive line since 1930 was being replaced by the Type 20. The loco was handsome and the tender reflected the "Lion & Wheel" emblem of the nationalized lines. It is sad to note that interest in Gauge 0 was clearly declining by this point and this Type 20 was one of Hornby's last gasps into new trains in 0 gauge. By the early 1960's almost everything had moved to double 0 . But, here she is, the Hornby type 20 gondola, available from 1954 to 1966. This was always a small line, this gondola is but 4" long and the couplers are simple hook and open circle both actually made as part of the floor or frame.
Best wishes
Don
@Don McErlean posted:Well hello everyone. Thanks to Arnold for starting this thread I wanted to do it but just didn't know how. Its fun however and I can see lots of folks agree as they are posting and adding to the fun and our knowledge. ...snip...
@PRRMP54- Al ore car and Southern "Big John" hopper were great! Had never seen anything like the B&O "Pig Iron" flat ...snip...
Best wishes to all
Don
The "pig" actually referred to truck trailers as in piggy-back service; an early version of Trailer Train.
@PRRMP54 - Whoops! Sorry. Dave I can see now that the configuration of the car would be supportive of the Trailer Train type concept. Thanks for correcting me and now I know more which is good
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Best Wishes
Don
These were special runs by Nassau Hobby - a pair of Metro North and a pair of Lawn-guy-land happy hoppers!!!
And for a bit of a change, here are a few cylindrical happy hoppers…
When it comes to gondolas, I think the covered variety are particularly good!!!
Penn-Pacific and Arnold,
You are correct, the load in the double gondola are plastic Lionel trestle track connecting brackets. I don't use them for attaching my trestles and thought they'd make a good load.
@Lionelski posted:Penn-Pacific and Arnold,
You are correct, the load in the double gondola are plastic Lionel trestle track connecting brackets. I don't use them for attaching my trestles and thought they'd make a good load.
That's a great idea for a load.
What do you think the load is in this gondola?
I'll give you a clue: the items in the gondola are made of metal. Why is that a good thing?
Arnold
@Arnold D. Cribari Those look like the clips used to keep tubular track from separating, and having them being made of metal makes it so you can pick them up with a magnetic crane. Very nice touch!
Here are some examples of my scale equipment:
Carner3000, you are 100% correct. Here are the 282 and 182 magnet cranes:
@Arnold D. Cribari posted:What do you think the load is in this gondola?
I'll give you a clue: the items in the gondola are made of metal. Why is that a good thing?
Arnold
Arnold,
O27 track ties and clips. Good thing to use with a Magnetic Gantry crane?
I do (along with pieces of rails and other scrap metal):
I like this "guess the load" game!
@Arnold D. Cribari- Track clips for sure. OBTW Arnold I love your "river" its great scenery. I also get a smile when I remeber your "Washing Machine" bridge! Great fun!
Here are some more Hoppers'....Stay Happy everyone!
Here is the Lionel Chessie System Hopper #9016 from 1975-79 and1987-88
The Lionel 6076 SF Hopper from 1963
A Karl Bub Hopper (or Gondola) from the 1950's
A French Hornby Hatchette NORD hopper from the 1990's (reproduction of French Hornby of the 1950's)
A Hornby M1 LMS gondola or "open Wagon" from the 1950's
A Hornby M1 LNE gondola from the 1950's
OK so on we go!! I am having fun, hope you are as well
Best Wishes
Don
@Lionelski posted:Arnold,
O27 track ties and clips. Good thing to use with a Magnetic Gantry crane?
I do (along with pieces of rails and other scrap metal):
I like this "guess the load" game!
Don, we have a Mutual Admiration Society! I love your above photo of your magnet crane scene.
IMO, the 282 Magnet Crane has the most play value of any model railroad accessory. Arnold
@ed h posted:Here is an interesting hopper from a Lionel uncataloged set made in 2000. The gold load was included with the car.
ed h,
Nice car. I wonder who came up a gold load for a hppper first? Lionel or me.
See my post here yesterday
@Arnold D. Cribari posted:Don, we have a Mutual Admiration Society! I love your above photo of your magnet crane scene.
IMO, the 282 Magnet Crane has the most play value of any model railroad accessory. Arnold
Thanks Arnold.
BTW, its John, not Don
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