Interesting Legacy Smoke Problem

mattrainsOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Hi All,

I have a Lionel Legacy Ten Wheeler 6-11202 from the 2010 Volume 1 catalog that will only smoke when you manually ding the bell from the legacy remote. I've owned the loco since new and always figured I had a burnt out smoke unit so I left it off. Recently I turned the switch on and realized it would start to smoke when I would hit the bell button but would fade away after a few seconds unless I started to hit the bell slider again. I've tried resetting it as well as looking under the shell for anything out of the ordinary and can't find anything. Has anyone had this problem before that might be able to guide me in the right direction?

Thanks,

Mat

1/13/155:46 PM

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Hi Matt,

This engine has a smoke voltage regulator, I've done quite a few repairs on this engine. I would say that's 90 percent the problem. You can give it to me at trainstock and I'll take a look at it for you

Alex

1/13/155:58 PM

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mattrainsOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

Thanks Alex!

It looks like you'll be leaving with a few of my engines.

Mat

1/13/156:42 PM

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bluelinec4OGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBERMEMORIAL SUPPORTER

Uh oh Alex You should have let him bring them back to Douzers

1/13/156:48 PM

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Originally Posted by bluelinec4:

Uh oh Alex You should have let him bring them back to Douzers

Yes, he could get the regulator for 4.95 at Douzers LOL

1/13/157:26 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

That's a really odd issue! I have the C&O 10-wheeler, and one of our club members had the smoke regulator go on the NYC version, spectacular! I've never seen a failure of the smoke regulator that does what you describe, it'll be interesting to see what the issue is.

1/14/1511:08 AM

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JohnSOGR Forum Member

smoke intensity on some lionel products are driven by the sound the engine makes. on the legacy diesels the smoke gets more intense with the rev sounds of the engine. on steamers with labored chuff. a wire on the bell terminal instead of where it belongs might explain it.

1/14/1511:56 AM

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RickOOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBER

I suppose it could still be related to the regulator somehow, but wasn't there an issue/defect with these 10 wheelers where the smoke could only be turned on and off in TMCC mode as opposed to legacy?

1/14/1512:00 PM

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gunrunnerjohnOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Mine works fine with the Legacy CAB2 in Legacy operating mode. I never heard of that, but that's not to say some of them didn't have an issue. The smoke volume works correctly as well when adjusted from the CAB2 remote.

1/14/1512:08 PM

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I have the C&O version and it is one of the nicest small engines Lionel has ever done. Love it, and have had no issues with it's performance.

Alex should get you fixed up, Matt.

1/14/151:04 PM

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Alex MOGR Forum Member SUPPORTING MEMBERDIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

Hello everyone,

I worked on this engine today, and it was the voltage regulator that was bad. Upon start up the

the resistor would get hot and then cool down after a few minutes, it would intermittently heat up a bit and then cool down again. So installed a new regulator, new resistor, and batting. She's now smoking out my workshop. See video below

Thanks

Alex