Long Island Rail Road-Oyster Bay Branch

@Steamfan77 posted:

Thank you Mark. Isn’t that always the way?

Bill, I wanted to give you first right of refusal.

Andy

Andy- read my response on the What did you do...... thread.

Thanks Bob, I tried 60, 30, and 25 FPS. The flickering is still happening. I think I'll need to fix it in post production

Andy

I shot a few videos of a small freight run.

Bob, you wanted a video, here you go.

Andy

Andy,

Really enjoyed seeing the train go around your layout Nothing like smooth running trains going through some very nice scenery. Wish I was closer. There are so many scenic opportunities on your layout. You're going to have a blast as you continue to work on it. Thanks for sharing.

Dave

Love your work. Having grown up on LI you've really nailed the LIRR look.

Last year there was a wonderful article in the journal of The Pennsylvania Railroad Historical Society on the evolution of the LIRR from the 1870’s to the present, with some wonderful photos and maps. Some of my family live in Woodmere. It was amazing to see pictures of the Woodmere station in 1912 and of the Canarsie Railroad ( a predecessor road)in the 1880’s. I could go on but I’d fill pages. If you’re into the route of Dashing Dan, get a copy if you can.

@RubinG posted:

Last year there was a wonderful article in the journal of The Pennsylvania Railroad Historical Society on the evolution of the LIRR from the 1870’s to the present, with some wonderful photos and maps. Some of my family live in Woodmere. It was amazing to see pictures of the Woodmere station in 1912 and of the Canarsie Railroad ( a predecessor road)in the 1880’s. I could go on but I’d fill pages. If you’re into the route of Dashing Dan, get a copy if you can.

Would you know which issue ?

Thanks

Thank you Dave! I wished you were closer too, I could get a lesson from the expert in all things scenery 😉

Thanks Scotie! Big compliment coming from a fellow Long Islander.

Rubin, I’ll do some digging to see if I can find it. I had the pleasure of going to the university of Stony Brook library where they have the Robert Emery collection of his hand drawn track maps, notes, and associated pictures. What a thrill!
Steve Lynch has a great website at: trainsarefun.com and Artsarchives is a great site too.

I’m with Arthur, would you happen to know which issue?

Andy

Great videos Andy. I'm jealous of your collection of LIRR power.

Trying my best to catch up. 😂😂

Bob

This is one of my favorite layouts and Forum threads. Dave summed it up best with his comment. So many scenic opportunities. Adding structures and details will keep you busy for years and to me is a big part of the hobby. I see so many layouts trying to squeeze as much track as they can in. Including multiple levels. No matter how you scenic it. It’s just  to overwhelming with to many trains and tracks with no purpose in operations. Nothing wrong with that approach if that’s how you want to enjoy the hobby and just watch the trains run. I just really like your approach. Well thought out operating scheme, with structures that fit into that scheme, a particular era and prototype railroad and plenty of open space to add scenic elements.

Thank you Bob. I’ve tried to be selective with my choice of motive power. I have strayed a bit outside of my era with a C420, MP15AC, and a GP38-2. But the majority of my fleet is era appropriate. Lots of good LIRR motive power out there. Happy hunting.

Dave C, wow, thank you so much for the kind words. This track plan is the result of many hours of research and multiple iterations. After all is said and done, I built this layout for operations.
I will have more time to devote to the layout when I retire at the end of the year.

I’d also like to thank everyone for the kind words and encouragement, it has been a source of inspiration. And so has all of the fine work that you guys produce.

Andy

The videos age great, Andy.  They really show off your nice smooth track and a well thought out plan.

Your layout looks amazing. This thread is fun to follow and finally seeing video really brings it together. As another Long Islander I am a huge fan of your modeling. Great job!!

-Tom

Hi Andy,

   Nice job with what you've accomplished so far and very good video work.

Tom

Thank you Mark, I wanted to do a video sooner, but you know how it goes sometimes.

Thank you Tom (Spectac). I’m glad the video helped pull things together.

Thank you Tom. Truth be told, I was working the phone and running the train at the same time. That’s why there are separate clips, I had to reposition after each video. Maybe I can ask my wife to run the train while I shoot the video 🤔 I might have a chance of getting it in one continuous clip.

Andy

Andy, Yes I know!  I don't like doing videos myself.  Even though I don't edit them, I always have to do several 'takes'

Andy

Coming along nicely

Steve

While its probably hair splitting your building a model of a railroad rather than a model railroad.

Mark, always more then one ‘take’, and even then I wish it could be better.

Thank you Steve.

Thank you Scotie, that’s exactly what I was shooting for. And I will try and operate it that way.

Andy

@Scotie posted:

While its probably hair splitting your building a model of a railroad rather than a model railroad.

I live in the area Scottie.  I can vouch for what Andy is doing is as a much of an accurate portrayal of the 1:1 and you could probably fit in the average Long Island basement......

@Scotie posted:

While its probably hair splitting your building a model of a railroad rather than a model railroad.

You said it so well Scottie!

@RSJB18 posted:

I live in the area Scottie.  I can vouch for what Andy is doing is as a much of an accurate portrayal of the 1:1 and you could probably fit in the average Long Island basement......

I had no doubt in Andy, but hearing it from another Islander says it all!

@Steamfan77 posted:

Maybe I can ask my wife to run the train while I shoot the video 🤔 I might have a chance of getting it in one continuous clip.

Andy

Whoa! Don't do anything you may regret!

Tom

Andy,

Where did you find that painting of the C-Liner leaving MY in the second video?

Wow, thanks Bob!

Thanks Mark!

Tom, she’s a fast study, plus I’ll have the “E” button ready 😁

452 Card, I was in Willis Hobbies in Mineola one day, and saw it behind the counter. Right place, right time.

Andy

Is the picture signed by an artist? I can't find it on Google. I remember seeing that picture somewhere before. It would be perfect for my layout, as Montauk is on the front right side. I am doing a condensed LIRR from LIC to MY with Patchogue as a central focus.

@452 Card posted:

Is the picture signed by an artist? I can't find it on Google. I remember seeing that picture somewhere before. It would be perfect for my layout, as Montauk is on the front right side. I am doing a condensed LIRR from LIC to MY with Patchogue as a central focus.

Think that's a Howard Fogg print.

Fogg it is, and available its not.

452 Card, Arthur is correct, Howard Fogg 1986.

Andy

Card, can we see your layout somewhere? Do you have a build thread, or have you posted your layout on the forum?

Andy

A work in progress, awaiting tabletop. I have a thread on here about just what to use to kill the noise. All different opinions are offered, and I don't have a good idea whats best. I plan to run long passenger trains and some freights. There will be a yard and switching involved there and in Patchogue at the sidings. Here are two pics, one of the completed benchwork and the other is the track plan. The gaps are where I will have to cut track to fit. Its a shared room, so I'm lucky to have this much space. And its temperature controlled.

I have the MTH C-Liners and cars to match, with some PRR equipment to mix in as prototypical of the late 50's and early 60's. I came around in the C420 era, so all the FM stuff was gone by the time I hired on (1974). I can easily create the train in the print. Also have the Lionel C420s to move the timeline along and still use the same rolling stock. All I will model is going to be Hi-Rail, so no true-to-scale craziness for me.

You were very fortunate to snag that print, as far as I can tell its the only painting Fogg did of an LIRR scene. It was commissioned by John Scala, according to "Trains Are Fun". I can't find it available at all on the net.

Card, looks great. Mianne benchwork and a nice track plan. Should give you lots of switching opportunities and the ability to run some nice long trains.                              

I used 1/2” Homasote on top of my decking with great results. The only thing i hear is the train on the track, no echo. It’s very quiet. It’s cheap and easy to work with. Just a little dusty when you cut it. Have a shop vac handy.

Start a build thread, I’d follow along with great interest. Always good to see layouts for Long Island.

Andy

Great layout video update Andy!!   Love (ENVY) your space and the long runs!   I assume your trackage is point to point - correct?    Would like to see a full sketch of the trackage.    You are set for some great operational fun!   Thanks for sharing!!!!

Cheers, Dave

Steam-

The top (rear) section with the double x-over will be 7" higher than the front. It will include an MTH HellGate Bridge on the center left before the curves. I plan to elevate the yard area 2" higher than the front. I know- no HellGate on LI, but I have operated over it thru my career and just have to include it on the left (west) end which sorta is Queens. Besides, I got it for a song at York.

The angled siding in the inside front will have #456 coal ramp, a salute to Snedecor Coal in PD. Lots of switching there, besides the yard. No room for an engine house or turntable.

All my MTH power is from Charlie. BCR's in everything. Haven't been there since Chris took over.

I have another 4x8 Mianne setup in the basement with RealTrax for the grand kids, on casters so I can move it easily. It was my old layout where the new one is now.

Thank you Dave! It is point to point, but I can make it point to loop (the return loop in the staging area). My track plan is on the first page of this thread.

Andy

I like your style Card, sounds like a lot of fun.

Andy

@Steamfan77 posted:

Thank you Dave! It is point to point, but I can make it point to loop (the return loop in the staging area). My track plan is on the first page of this thread.

Andy

Thanks!   I missed seeing the PDF reference when I perused the earlier posts.  

Cheers, Dave

Painted and placed the cap that goes around the top of the turntable. I'll make it permanent shortly, then do some weathering.

Andy

Andy you mentioned dust with homasote. Use a knife blade on your jigsaw and there should be no dust. The blade appears to me to push thru the material rather than cut it… whatever, there is barely a trace of dust.

That’s absolutely true Bill. I used knife blades in the jigsaw to do general cutting. I meant dust when I use the flush trim bit in the router to make the profile of the Homasote the same as the decking. Makes a nice finished product but kicks up some dust. None at all when I follow along with the shop vac.

Andy

I’ve made a change in the yard around the turntable area. I’ve been playing with the idea to pull the foam board up and today I finally pulled the trigger. I did this with the idea in mind to create a slightly different height so everything in the area doesn’t look so uniform. The first step was to remove some ballast and pull out the foam board. I’ll touch up some spots with flat brown latex next.

Andy