Menards posted:david1 posted:Can't find them on their web site.
-Mark the Menards Train Guy
Why not make the vehicles available separately as well. Can't use any more cars.
Thanks, Dick
AMCDave posted:Craignor posted:
Just bought another, Menards flatcar with Half-Track.
https://www.menards.com/main/p-1444421193967.htm
I'd like to know the half track scale??? If the same as the Jeeps we have most of Kelly's heros!!!
Then all you'll need is Odd Ball and his Shermans!!! 
gunrunnerjohn posted:Richard Gonzales posted:Ok,
- The blocking for the tires is missing.
- The windshield are correctly shown in the down position but would also be protected by burlap material.
- Mo gas cans are never red and would not be shipped with the jeep.
- OVE (On Board Vehicle Equipment) such as shovels, picks and ax would not be shipped attached to the jeep. This equipment would walk off when the train was parked in a siding.
- Each jeep would have had it's own crate containing the OVE, and other components that would have been installed by the troops at the receiving destination.
But after all the jeeps are on a three rail flat car, so none of this really matters!
Thanks,
Richard
When you get your model of the right way to ship them, let us know and we'll buy it.
In the words of Monty Python..."It's only a model" 
AMCDave posted:I'd like to know the half track scale??? If the same as the Jeeps we have most of Kelly's heros!!!
I know you guys hate when I give dimensions rather than scale, but I will be the first to admit I am not the authority on "scale". The dimensions are 6"L x 1-7/8"W x 2-1/2"H. Perhaps someone could translate that for us.
-Mark the Menards Train Guy
Mark, good buddy, we don't exactly "hate" it when you give dimensions, or you! It's just slightly annoying, kind of like when my Aunt Frieda would try to eat corn on the cob without putting her teeth in! LOL
The M13 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage, or MGMC (Anti Aircraft variant) was 21' 4" long, 7' 1" wide and 7' 8" high. So if the length of the M13 is 256" long overall, and the model is 6" long, that puts the scale at 1:42.6. She's a around 21/32" too long, but I really like the way it fills the car!
Volphin posted:The M13 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage, or MGMC (Anti Aircraft variant) was 21' 4" long, 7' 1" wide and 7' 8" high. So if the length of the M13 is 256" long overall, and the model is 6" long, that puts the scale at 1:42.6
Sounds like 1/43.....which is OK too.......I'll wait until my Jeeps come and see if the half track fits in....Thanks!!!
Hey Mark, don't worry about the numbers! Its a great looking car with a great price tag on it! Plus who knows in a few seconds Bob will probably post his review pictures for everyone to see which is a great plus.
Side note, did you get Bob some more track? LOL
Menards posted:AMCDave posted:I'd like to know the half track scale??? If the same as the Jeeps we have most of Kelly's heros!!!
I know you guys hate when I give dimensions rather than scale, but I will be the first to admit I am not the authority on "scale". The dimensions are 6"L x 1-7/8"W x 2-1/2"H. Perhaps someone could translate that for us.
-Mark the Menards Train Guy
Mark,
Thanks for the info........I ain't hated nothing Menard's has done yet!!
Just ordered mine!
The dimensions are 6"L x 1-7/8"W x 2-1/2"H.
that makes it 24'long x 7'wide x 10'high in 1/48 scale
My jeep car arrived yesterday. Just in time for the annual Jeep festival in Butler Pennsylvania next weekend. I don't think I can run my keeps in the parade, but I'll pretend on the temporary layout!
I got my 2 Menard's flats with Jeeps Saturday. All I can say is WOW!!! The flats are nice but the Jeeps are fantastic. Very fine detail.....and the red jerry cans are not a problem....if they bug me I have OD paint ready. Two flat cars with Jeeps and the flat car with van delivered for about $50 is a deal. The four Jeeps were worth the price!! The modern van will show up on the for sale forum as it is just to new for 1950's!! Thanks Mark and Co.
I ran some on our module at the town's main street festival this weekend.
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Nice looking there Don, plus it must have been great to be outside running trains!
mike g. posted:Nice looking there Don, plus it must have been great to be outside running trains!
Actually it was the worse time we have ever had. The wind was so bad we had to take our tents down. The boxcars kept string-lining but the jeeps never went over. I got a little sun burn.
Got my jeeps on Sat. and they are very nice. The van had a loose left front tire rolling around in the box. NBD. What's the best glue to use? Or I may try to remove the Van from the unit and use the flat somewhere else. The van is out of my time frame.
Tommy
Got my 3 jeep flats on Saturday also and they look great. Put the 3 van flats on the 4 Sale forum (Too modern for me) but no bites yet. No big deal though. I figure I still have 3 nice military flats ot put some Huey choppers on.
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I thought the giant "US Army" stenciled on the passenger sides and the red jerry cans to be very odd (as WW2 Jeeps had neither of these, not to mention the tan seat covers which no WW2 Jeep had), but overall this car looks way better than most of their previous military cars!
I really liked the use of the normal 'non-surround' star on the hoods which was the only type of star you'd see on a stateside vehicle. Nice touch. Many models of Jeeps have the surround "ETO" style star, as seen on my own 1944 Willys MB (note the OD green seat covers with matching color 44-dated water can):
For purists, it wouldn't take much at all make excellent scale models out of these Jeep, though I have to admit it'd be okay to leave them as-is for most 3-railers...
FYI, you can tell people these are Ford Jeeps on the Menards model. The black steering wheel gives them away!
DMASSO posted:mike g. posted:Nice looking there Don, plus it must have been great to be outside running trains!
Actually it was the worse time we have ever had. The wind was so bad we had to take our tents down. The boxcars kept string-lining but the jeeps never went over. I got a little sun burn.
Sorry it was the worst time Don, I just took it for granted in the picture, nice green grass and no rain! That's a good day around here in the great northwest!
Richard Gonzales posted:Ok,
- The blocking for the tires is missing.
- The windshield are correctly shown in the down position but would also be protected by burlap material.
- Mo gas cans are never red and would not be shipped with the jeep.
- OVE (On Board Vehicle Equipment) such as shovels, picks and ax would not be shipped attached to the jeep. This equipment would walk off when the train was parked in a siding.
- Each jeep would have had it's own crate containing the OVE, and other components that would have been installed by the troops at the receiving destination.
Okay, I have to address these in turn as someone just emailed me to go back and read the above, asking if it was right:
The blocking for the tires is missing.
True. Wood blocks and heavy long wood stops would have been added prior to movement, depending on what unit loaded them up
The windshield are correctly shown in the down position but would also be protected by burlap material.
Not burlap. They made windshield covers out of the same treated canvas the tops were made of. They looked like an envelope with snaps on the open end, and tiny little holes for where the windshield was secured to the hood. FYI, the lighting in the shot below gives a false indication of the canvas color. They were all called "OD Green #7, which varied to a color somewhat like this, to the same color as the metal body. The cover below is a reproduction, which is a little lighter than production ones were.
Mo gas cans are never red and would not be shipped with the jeep.
Not red, but still often shipped with the Jeep. I have plenty of period photos showing vehicles rail-shipped with (probably empty) gas/water cans in the holders. See the shot below.
OVE (On Board Vehicle Equipment) such as shovels, picks and ax would not be shipped attached to the jeep. This equipment would walk off when the train was parked in a siding.
Just like the cans, Jeeps and other soft-skin vehicles were indeed often shipped by rail with the axle and shovel in place. It was actually pretty common as many stateside moves were made with GIs on the flatcars during movement.
Some Jeeps even got rail loaded with the tops up, as the frames for the windshields aren't damaged at speeds under about 50MPH or so.
Each jeep would have had it's own crate containing the OVE, and other components that would have been installed by the troops at the receiving destination.
Nope. Tanks were shipped like this, but soft-skin vehicles rarely were, if ever.
They were usually shipped with the equipment ("pioneer kits" I always heard them called) in place, or not at all. Many WW2 Jeeps in the ETOP and PTO are often seen in period photos without the tools, spare tire and some even had the windshields removed and headlights yanked out.
As for being crated themselves, Jeeps were shipped either stacked up as in a previous photo or placed like the photo above. Very few WW2 Jeeps were crated and the few that were, went by ship.
After the war, remember those comic book ads about buying WW2 Jeeps in the crate for $50? THAT NEVER HAPPENED. It's the most pervasive false rumor about WW2 Jeeps. There are countless people who swear they knew someone who knew someone who heard it from someone... you know the calling card of the urban legend. Well, this is one that drives us WW2 Jeep owners insane because you're never going to meet someone who bought one new in a crate or can provide photos of it being uncrated (and the color shot of one in a crate you can find online doesn't count, as that was made for the Atlanta MYPA convention out of a restored Jeep, to show what a crated Jeep would look like).
wild mary posted:Got my 3 jeep flats on Saturday also and they look great. Put the 3 van flats on the 4 Sale forum (Too modern for me) but no bites yet. No big deal though. I figure I still have 3 nice military flats ot put some Huey choppers on.
The van was more modern than I wanted as well so I ordered this tank from Menards to mount on my free flat car when I ordered the half track flat car last night.
p51 posted:I thought the giant "US Army" stenciled on the passenger sides and the red jerry cans to be very odd (as WW2 Jeeps had neither of these, not to mention the tan seat covers which no WW2 Jeep had), but overall this car looks way better than most of their previous military cars!
I really liked the use of the normal 'non-surround' star on the hoods which was the only type of star you'd see on a stateside vehicle. Nice touch. Many models of Jeeps have the surround "ETO" style star, as seen on my own 1944 Willys MB (note the OD green seat covers with matching color 44-dated water can):
For purists, it wouldn't take much at all make excellent scale models out of these Jeep, though I have to admit it'd be okay to leave them as-is for most 3-railers...
FYI, you can tell people these are Ford Jeeps on the Menards model. The black steering wheel gives them away!
I was actually waiting for you to reply to this thread. I know you have a keen eye for detail and quite a bit of experience with WWII Jeeps. Thanks for your insight! I think these Jeeps look awesome for the price!
Chris Lonero posted:wild mary posted:Got my 3 jeep flats on Saturday also and they look great. Put the 3 van flats on the 4 Sale forum (Too modern for me) but no bites yet. No big deal though. I figure I still have 3 nice military flats ot put some Huey choppers on.
The van was more modern than I wanted as well so I ordered this tank from Menards to mount on my free flat car when I ordered the half track flat car last night.
You'll like those tanks. I bought 6 of them and mounted them on 3 flats.
Goshawk posted:I was actually waiting for you to reply to this thread. I know you have a keen eye for detail and quite a bit of experience with WWII Jeeps. Thanks for your insight! I think these Jeeps look awesome for the price!
Thanks for the kind words.
I, too, think they're decent models, especially for the price. I've poo-poo'd a lot of their previous military stuff, but I have to give credit where it's due when they come out with something that's okay.
Chris Lonero posted:wild mary posted:Got my 3 jeep flats on Saturday also and they look great. Put the 3 van flats on the 4 Sale forum (Too modern for me) but no bites yet. No big deal though. I figure I still have 3 nice military flats ot put some Huey choppers on.
The van was more modern than I wanted as well so I ordered this tank from Menards to mount on my free flat car when I ordered the half track flat car last night.
Chris, I have 4 of those tanks I picked up from Menards when I was in North Dakota. I just agreed to buy Wild Mary's 2 flat cars just so I could put them on there! Great Idea!
mike g. posted:Chris Lonero posted:wild mary posted:Got my 3 jeep flats on Saturday also and they look great. Put the 3 van flats on the 4 Sale forum (Too modern for me) but no bites yet. No big deal though. I figure I still have 3 nice military flats ot put some Huey choppers on.
The van was more modern than I wanted as well so I ordered this tank from Menards to mount on my free flat car when I ordered the half track flat car last night.
Chris, I have 4 of those tanks I picked up from Menards when I was in North Dakota. I just agreed to buy Wild Mary's 2 flat cars just so I could put them on there! Great Idea!
The flat cars still look good so just take off the load you don't want. I'll post some pics when my cars come in.
I received my two flats with the jeeps yesterday. I'm totally impressed. The detail on the jeeps is great. The red gas can is no bother to me. If it bothers you just brush on some olive drab paint. They look pretty much 1/50 to me. I'm taking them off to place on an Army scene I'm starting to build around an old Marx Army headquarters building.
To remove the jeeps I unscrewed the two bottom screws holding one in place. I found that I had to remove both the front tires off of the rims of one jeep to get the chain over the wheel for removal. Once I got the chain loose from the front of ones there was enough slack to remove both jeeps.
The flatcar is nice and tracks well. I was thinking that an empty Army flat in a train consist is pretty cool since real tains will deadhead empty freight cars. Also, it's available for any other military load I 'd like. But, dang it, die cast 1/50 military hardware is not cheap.
Alan
