Originally Posted by AXP889:
while I don't think these organizations will ever return to the heyday of the 1920s or 1950s/1960s, I don't think they will die out. I am 24 so some would consider me a unique case. But I see more and more of my generation joining these orgs. Ususally when we get a new guy in our lodge and we ask him why he's interested we hear either "I was in a college fraternity" or "my grandfather was a mason so I wanted to see what it was all about". I think it's precisely because it sort of skipped a generation that the younger generation (beyond the ones who are all about "me") are looking to be part of something bigger than themselves. Right now it's just critical for the organizations to embrace the new members and not discourage them with "old boy politics", but hey, I even saw that in the Boy Scouts, haha. As far as college fraternities go, I think we'll see a lot more rebranding and refocusing as the world gets even more P.C., but I don't think they're going anywhere.
You could be right, as you're in one of those groups and I've never been. What I'd read actually measured new membership in most of the larger such groups and some surveys that'd been filled out by sons of members who weren't signing up, as to why. It said that the numbers of new members are rapidly diminishing, and if it kepy up at this rate, most of the groups wouldn't survive one more generation.
Like the old folks says, I have no dog in that hunt and have nothing against groups like that (even though I really don't 'get' them).
And while I'm NOT comparing any of them to this, don't forget that the KKK was actually considered a social group along those organizational lines into the 20s with over four million members. It diminished mostly when that group went into some frightening 'fringe' activity into the late 20s. It collapsed into a tiny (and truly scary) group by the early 30s and was killed as any manner of mainstream group by the time WW2 started.
Again, I'm not comparing masonry to the Klan, just saying that social organizations have come and gone over the years and how some were percieved in the past...