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Every so often I've come across references in posts to various fraternal organizations and growing up attending the Greenberg shows at Aleppo Shriners, the two became associated in my mind.  So in the spirit of the "model railroading and musicians" and "model railroading and engineers" topics, I thought I'd start this one to see how many forum members are also members of a fraternal organization and if you've incorporated any of your affiliations into your modeling.  For example, I know there was a Masonic train set produced for the GL of Penn. a while back and I once saw someone who had a lodge modeled on their layout.

I'm a Mason (both Scottish Rite and currently 2/3 through York Rite) and Shriner here in Connecticut, but I'm originally from Massachusetts and still hold membership there.  I am also still active with my college fraternity, Alpha Chi Rho.

 

And I'll add that I'm an Eagle Scout.  I know it's not really a fraternal organization by itself, but I think other Eagles would agree there's a sense of fraternal bond among us.

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Originally Posted by handyandy:

Geez I guessed that wrong. From the sound of the title I thought this was going to be about some kind of conspiracy theories on who really runs the country.

 

Don't think  they are taking members, but if I could, I'd join the Barbeque Lodge in Raleigh. 

The Illuminati run it along with the price of oil. 

As for myself, I losely quote Groucho Marx: "I would not want to be a member of any organization that would have me as a member...."

I am a member of National #568 in Barberton, OH an I am a Past Master of Garner Lodge # 701 in Garner, NC which coincidentally is right across the street from the Amtrack line. The train never fails to go by during a meeting. Garner Lodge decided to commission a Masonic coin to give out to visitors, the coin has a 4-6-4 steam engine on it, which I wear in my belt buckle.  I also was a Past Commander, Past Excellent High Priest, and Grand Illustrious Master of the Raleigh York Rite bodies.

Where one Mason may know another, in the darkness, as well as in the light. There are posts then there are posts, and this is a good one. I wished that more young folks would check into the Order other than making judgement from some "BS" TV Show.

I'll stop with that, as I could go on and on, and I don't want to get kicked off the forum..........................................................Hiram!

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by p51:

I've been reading how Masonry, shriners, moose lodges and the like will all be gone in another couple of generations.

In the past, sons would follow on at their father's lodge byut that isn't happening at all anymore. I know several odd fellows and other type lodges around where I live are on caretaker status by... I'm not sure who, but they're no longer being used for meetings.

The insular nature of society in the US is probably to blame for this, as is the total shift in how we interact with one another, but young people simply don't want to join fraternal organizations anymore other than frats in gollege (and even those numbers are shrinking in some schools). I give the whole concept 40 years max, if even that.

I remember as I was growing up all the good these organizations did. A lot of prominent citizens were members of the organizations. 

 

Speaking of following in paternal footsteps, it seems parents in general don't instill a sense of community in their children - I see it with the 20- somethings I work with. Very selfish, self absorbed. 

Originally Posted by p51:

I've been reading how Masonry, shriners, moose lodges and the like will all be gone in another couple of generations.

In the past, sons would follow on at their father's lodge byut that isn't happening at all anymore. I know several odd fellows and other type lodges around where I live are on caretaker status by... I'm not sure who, but they're no longer being used for meetings.

The insular nature of society in the US is probably to blame for this, as is the total shift in how we interact with one another, but young people simply don't want to join fraternal organizations anymore other than frats in gollege (and even those numbers are shrinking in some schools). I give the whole concept 40 years max, if even that.

Lee, while I don't think these organizations will ever return to the heyday of the 1920s or 1950s/1960s, I don't think they will die out.  I am 24 so some would consider me a unique case.  But I see more and more of my generation joining these orgs.  Ususally when we get a new guy in our lodge and we ask him why he's interested we hear either "I was in a college fraternity" or "my grandfather was a mason so I wanted to see what it was all about".  I think it's precisely because it sort of skipped a generation that the younger generation (beyond the ones who are all about "me") are looking to be part of something bigger than themselves.  Right now it's just critical for the organizations to embrace the new members and not discourage them with "old boy politics", but hey, I even saw that in the Boy Scouts, haha.  As far as college fraternities go, I think we'll see a lot more rebranding and refocusing as the world gets even more P.C., but I don't think they're going anywhere.

Originally Posted by AXP889:
while I don't think these organizations will ever return to the heyday of the 1920s or 1950s/1960s, I don't think they will die out.  I am 24 so some would consider me a unique case.  But I see more and more of my generation joining these orgs.  Ususally when we get a new guy in our lodge and we ask him why he's interested we hear either "I was in a college fraternity" or "my grandfather was a mason so I wanted to see what it was all about".  I think it's precisely because it sort of skipped a generation that the younger generation (beyond the ones who are all about "me") are looking to be part of something bigger than themselves.  Right now it's just critical for the organizations to embrace the new members and not discourage them with "old boy politics", but hey, I even saw that in the Boy Scouts, haha.  As far as college fraternities go, I think we'll see a lot more rebranding and refocusing as the world gets even more P.C., but I don't think they're going anywhere.

You could be right, as you're in one of those groups and I've never been. What I'd read actually measured new membership in most of the larger such groups and some surveys that'd been filled out by sons of members who weren't signing up, as to why. It said that the numbers of new members are rapidly diminishing, and if it kepy up at this rate, most of the groups wouldn't survive one more generation.

Like the old folks says, I have no dog in that hunt and have nothing against groups like that (even though I really don't 'get' them).

And while I'm NOT comparing any of them to this, don't forget that the KKK was actually considered a social group along those organizational lines into the 20s with over four million members. It diminished mostly when that group went into some frightening 'fringe' activity into the late 20s. It collapsed into a tiny (and truly scary) group by the early 30s and was killed as any manner of mainstream group by the time WW2 started.

Again, I'm not comparing masonry to the Klan, just saying that social organizations have come and gone over the years and how some were percieved in the past...

I hesitate to post this, but if you watch the video you will see that it is our culture that is changing. Where there were once large families there are now small families. In other words, there are less people - the video says not enough people - to sustain our culture.

Our culture led us to community service - be it Lions or Rotary or Masonic related.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/6-3X5hIFXYU

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