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I'm considering buying a used set of DL 109/110 diesel/dummy.  MTH says it will run on 0-42 curves.  Can anyone show or tell me how much this unit hangs over on 0-42 curves?  If not, can you tell me how it compares to 70' MTH passenger cars on any curves?  Does it hang over the same amount, more, or less as a 70' passenger cars?  Thanks.

Mike

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I don’t have any 042 curves. The pics below show it on a piece of 054. The center of the body in the middle barely shows the outside rail. It may go around an 042 but to me 054 looks to be the limit and still look respectable. These are long engines and even on my mainline with 072 minimum they would look way better with larger curves.

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Dave,

Thanks for the photos and reply.  Do 18" or 70' passenger cars hang over more or less than your DL 109?

Here are 1.  Premier E8 engine on 0-42, 2.  70' passenger on 0-42.  They look bad on curves as you can see, but my layout is long and narrow, so I don't have a lot of curves to look at and they are at both ends of a long room.  I had sizing constraints, so 0-42 has been my limit.  The DLs are a few inches longer so it's not just a looks thing, but they need to clear corners without hanging over too much.  Otherwise, I would have to move the track and I do not want to do that.

The E-8s are my personal favorites (have two sets) and I really like the look of the DL 109/110.  They are such cool engines.

Mike

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Yes, GRJ, I have those.  Thanks. I believe I used them for the template of my 0-42 curves in my photos and still used them when I planned out my new layout.

My track is in place, but this DL engine is pushing the limits of how much hang will work.  I don't want to buy one if it requires me to change my tracks.

Years ago, Steve actually gave me a set, in person, at a show.  It paid off for him, I hope, because I replaced all of my lionel switches with his and have since bought a crossover and a 4 way.  Great guy and great products.

Mike

Sorry I only 21” cars. If MTH states they will handle 042 then I’d go for it if it’s something you want. They are a unique looking engine. Being a NH fan they were a must have. If your curves are only at the end of your run and your only negotiating those 2. Shouldn’t be an issue looks wise. Big Boys are rated for 072. Lots of overhang with the long boiler. Doesn’t stop anyone from buying them.

Will the 18” cars negotiate your 042 ?    Do you have a wheelbase measurement on the 70ft. car. The 2 outermost axles. The blind wheels are the inner wheels on the DL109. I can get you a measurement if you think it will help. I would think the overhang would be pretty close between the 2.

These are pictures of my new Milwaukee DL109/110 running on 0-42 curves.  They hang over as much as MTH E8s.  Fortunately, my main layout is long and narrow -- so not that many curves.  I liked this engine too much to not make it work  -- the Hiawatha version is a real gem.  And I like the Alco engine sounds A LOT -- as Peter's video shows.  Thanks for all who helped me with this decision process.

Mike

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Sometimes I think buying this engine for the Alco engine sounds is excuse enough to own one. If you have ever been around an Aloc 244 prime mover, the engine sounds are absolutely what the engine sounds like and the idling up when you increase the throttle is even that much more realistic. Yesterday a friend came to the house with a DL109 painted in the New Haven cranberry paint scheme and it is one beautiful engine. also an excellent puller. You can see it on my layout under yesterday's "what trains did you run today" thread.    Bill

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