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Hey all...

 

I figured I bring this up, since it drives me personally crazy.

 

We occasionally stumble across a condition where locomotives make one pass over the loop just fine, and on the next pass they derail...

 

We do track inspections after every derail, but the track isn't out of gage, or kinked upon inspection. Everything seems tight, and when we rerail it the locomotive will could go the rest of the night without a problem, and if it does derail again that night, its not in the same place.


When the locomotive is taken off and checked for binding, there is no problem.

 

We've been aggressively conducting track maintenance, double checking for loose spikes and other "lack of maintenance" conditions, but the derails continue.

 

What could be the cause of this condition?? Its 2 rail, 1 1/4 inch gauge track, code 172 rail, flex track in the hard to reach places, hand laid everywhere else, including the switches.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

Rob

 

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Originally Posted by Wisco2r:

 When the locomotive is taken off and checked for binding, there is no problem.

 

We've been aggressively conducting track maintenance, double checking for loose spikes and other "lack of maintenance" conditions, but the derails continue.

 

What could be the cause of this condition??  

I would suspect truck (lack of) equalization or the inability of one truck on the rolling

stock to be able to tip a small amount to follow uneven track.

I have an Atlas PS4750 Hopper that does that. Noticed that one of the couplers, while at the proper height, was skewed ever so slightly. Fixed that and the derailments were reduced, but not eliminated. Need to take the car apart to check to see if the center sill has a twist in it.

 

You might have something like the above going on. Doesn't take much sometimes.

On the track you could take a look at cross level or rate of change of cross level.  On the car or loco a frame twist or same problem in the trucks.  Anything that would percent all the wheels from sitting on the track with about the same weight on each one.  Another  issue is the trucks need to swivel freely so the car is not trying to go straight in a curve or continuing to curve after the track has straightened out after a curve.

Ok, so 1) check equalization, 2) check for frame twist. 

 

I'd check for knuckle alignment if it were the cars, but we know why our cars derail...usually too light, and in a switch.

 

Makes sense...considering a lot of the motive power dates back to somewhere between The Jurassic Period and 1948... and a lot of scratchbuilt stuff.

 

sure beats head scratching when the rail isn't the problem. thanks guys. i'll let you know what we find.

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