The ride height looks much better with these new trucks.  Now the hoppers don't look like they're ready to fall over or go off-roading.  

Glad Lionel listened to those of us that sacrificed many electrons about the old truck.

Now, if Lionel could only find some other new car types to put these trucks under...

Got the pair of UP's coming, my LHS hasn't called yet.  The irony is I'll probably have to replace the trucks anyway in order to to scalify them.  Ryan seemed to indicate the scale wheels from the first run won't work with these new trucks.

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:

The irony is I'll probably have to replace the trucks anyway in order to to scalify them.  Ryan seemed to indicate the scale wheels from the first run won't work with these new trucks.

Good news...the scale wheels from the first run fit fine in these new trucks.  I tried it last night.  Now I want to find out if Lionel is selling these new trucks separately so I can retrofit my four cars from the first run.

Chuck K posted:
Rusty Traque posted:

The irony is I'll probably have to replace the trucks anyway in order to to scalify them.  Ryan seemed to indicate the scale wheels from the first run won't work with these new trucks.

Good news...the scale wheels from the first run fit fine in these new trucks.  I tried it last night.  Now I want to find out if Lionel is selling these new trucks separately so I can retrofit my four cars from the first run.

That's good to hear.  I've got two sets of trucks sitting in the parts box from the first run that I brought into gauge.

Rusty

Chuck K posted:

I found the new trucks listed for purchase on lionelsupport.com but only with highrail wheels. I cannot find the scale wheels sold separately which are necessary for these trucks as the axles are customized.

Lionel might have some of the first-run scale-wheeled trucks in stock.  They would still have to be re-gauged.

The catalog makes no mention of scale wheel conversion, so it would appear the only thing to do is locate some first run trucks.  I seriously don't think Lionel is going to offer replacement scale wheels.  I'm pretty sure they are going to let the few scalers that buy these cars to their own devices regarding wheel conversion.

Another possibility is now that Northwest Short Line is coming back online, is to see if they could make replacement wheels and for how much.

Rusty

I purchased a couple of the original cyl. hoppers before I realized they came with scale wheels. I'm Hi-rail so... If I understand this thread correctly, I'd be happy to swap my scale wheel sets for Hi-rail wheel sets if that helps anyone out.  Contact me off list via my profile info. I'm out of town for the week so can't verify what or how may I have. That's why I said I had "a couple" hopper cars.

Bill from Kelso, WA

Probably a minor problem for people keeping the AF couplers.  The coupler return springs did not work on 3 of the 4 trucks on the two hoppers I just received.  I have attached two photos to show the problem.  The legs of the return spring are straight and not held captive.  As a result, one or both of the spring ends can ride over the small tabs of metal that are meant to keep them in place.  When that happens the return spring no longer brings the coupler back into position.  In the initial runs of the hoppers those ends were inserted into a small slot that kept them captive.  I removed the couplers and bent the springs down as shown in the second picture.  So far it appears that may solve the problem.

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Glad its just paint.  I have the Erie and PC as well and the trucks are excellent.  The rust just gave me flashbacks to the O Legacy Turbines sitting in water in their boxes.  A fiasco a few years ago.  Still awaiting a good redo of the turbines.  Would be nice for S as well.

Michael...

TCA, LCCA, TTOS, NASG, MTHRRC, The Carolwood Society

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