New MTH 2015 Catalog goes Live!

I read this and comment above and I am not sure it is accurate........

"MTH beat Lionel to the punch with the scale Santa Fe F3."

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Lionel release ATSF scale F3s a few years ago?  I believe they are TMCC not legacy.  I am also pretty sure MTH released some really cool scale "plated" F3s several years ago.  So really, haven't both companies already released scale F3s?  As to which company released scale F3s first, I really don't know or care, but I guess it matters to some.

BNSF SD70MAC,    It has my name on it.  Nick

YES!!! LIRR H10 FOR ME! I was hoping it would be the H10 as opposed to the G5 since I am running freight much more often these days.

What is the pre-order price for the 44 tonners?

No NYC Subways..... Anyways..... the SP and Cotton Belt SD45T-2 For Zach then

ACL Black E-6 ABA (need to see what the numbers are), SCL SD45 and Southern 44-toner have my interest. Funny they made the ACL passenger cars with purple boards which were changed to plain stainless with black lettering when the black paint started in 1958. They would look good with my MTH ACL purple E-8s from a few years ago. 

Not a bad catalog this time.

Lionel came out with these Santa Fe F3's a few years ago:

http://www.lionel.com/Products...neID=&CatalogId=

Legacy Equipped.

FWIW:

The N&W J as pictured with the multiple bearing crosshead is only correct for engines 600-604, not 611 & 612 as offered. Then again the tender as shown is only correct for engines 611-613. Enjoy!

I got a pass from the CFO to get a 611. When you zoom in on the catalog picture, it's showing spoked pilot wheels on the 611. Weren't they always solid? My guess is that they photo shopped "611" onto the last version that they offered which was the 604 ( I have one). That said, if the crosshead is the early style I don't want it.

Wonder if/when brand "L" will be selling off their 611s?

Gilly

Simply put both MTH and Lionel have produced scale ATSF F3s.  MTH has offered them most recently because they are in their current catalog.  Yes that is pretty simple. 

0 EJ&E/ Chicago Outer Belt items. Come on can I get 1 item a year to look forward to?

The MTHRRC 2015 O Gauge car is another ventilated refrigerator car that has already been issued.... ?? Come on why are you issuing the same car that was issued a few years ago????? Why not a freaking caboose???

Glad to see that the 44 tonners were finally announced.  Disappointed that the Boston and Maine versions I have been asking for were NOT in the catalog.     Oh well, will save my cash to start my new layout this winter.  I've got more trains than I have room to display anyway.

NICE! Finally the PRR rs27's with what appears to be correct red/white logos and NO stupid"pennsylvania" across the hood! Neal S may go for these!

I didn't strain my eyes to check for spokes. Heaven forbid that I be labeled a "Spoke Counter". 

But, yes, 611-613 came with solid pilot wheels. Other engines were changed from spoked to solid wheels at some point in time.

I have given up on anyone at MTH in a research position of being able to do their homework...correctly. I wonder where this "new" sound set recorded from 611 is coming from being that she has been cold for 20 years?

More conspicuous than all of this is, that again, there is really nothing new. Absolutely nothing in there that I would want. 

The catalog lists scale-wheel versions of the N&W J's, but clicking on the links gives "page not found." The catalog doesn't show scale-wheel versions of the NKP Berks, but Nassau shows them for pre-order, and switching the 20-xxxx-1 to 22-xxxx-2 for the Berks comes up with a description page on the MTH site. Is that definite for both? For now, that is - always subject to cancellation by MTH.

Thanks,

David

The 44 toners are nice......The RailKing Mohawks are nice, too.......but I would be wary of getting an NYO&W Mountainer livery without the cars being offered, too.

Peter

I love the fact the 44 tonner will run on O-27.   My new layout will have at least one circuit of O36 curves and this allows me to fit in some industrial switching using O-27 curves.   Very happy to see this!

--Greg

Nice selection of items.  This is a nice catalog

As others have mentioned, I'll have to ask a few questions about the N&W Js before I buy anything.

Which configuration of the crosshead guides will be used? Multiple bearing crosshead guides are shown and are appropriate for the 604. I'll take for granted they will not change the back of the 604 tender to a sloped tender. 

Will alligator crosshead guides be used on the 611 and 612 as appropriate? 

The pilot wheels are spoked in the photos but should be solid on the 611 and 612. I'll be swapping out the wheels so this isn't a great concern for me.

Will they be using tandem rods or single rods. Single rods are appropriate for later years of 611 service after the accident and in excursion service. I don't want any part of any single rods version.

As always a few things I'd like to own.....but at $700 for a RK Triplex or $900 for the scale 2-8-0 I'll again have to pass. Just beyond my comfort zone.

The E-6 A-B-A set in AT&SF colors is tempting......have to see what some OGR sponsors offer it at in the coming weeks.

I completely agree. And I have no idea how to figure out this information before ordering the model. I don't want it to show up and then be something I don't want. This has been a constant issue with not only MTH but also Lionel catalogs. I just wish what they printed in the catalogs would accurately reflect the as delivered product. Oh well.

not ANOTHER WiFI module.

too bad none of the engines are IR equipped.  I would have thought or hoped that MTH saw some writing  on these walls.

All Im Getting is those UP,Cotton Belt and SP Tunnel Motors

To quote myself, at various times: "I pretty much stick to Lionel and Lionel-friends

because I prefer the operating system...". Well, yeah, and unicorns are real, aren't they?

The B&A "J1e" (no) in original green will most likely find its way to my house, and I'll just

have to fire up the DCS Remote Commander again.

I don't have - horrors! - this particular variation of the NYC Hudson, so there's that. Plus,

as it has a Lima builders plate, it really represents a B&A Lima J2 (there were 10) with 75" drivers, and, as our drivers tend to be smaller than prototypical to allow for model flanges, I'll just call it a J2 and be done with it. So there. The J1 and J2 were pretty much the same

locos - drivers excluded - so, except for those who pick more nits than I, it will do

nicely. Just wish that it was Legacy. Whine, whine.

Saw some interesting items. The DCS WiFi receiver is particularly interesting, but I'm wondering how many devices can operate with it and what provisions, if any, are made for layouts with multiple TIU's.

Breathing a sigh of relief that the 44-tonner is being offered in ATSF livery. Wallet said OUGH.

See that UP Big Boy 4014 is being offere oil-fired. Wallet is screaming in agony.

Saw some re-issues in Scale King that are of interest. Debating whether I want to spend the $300 for each locomotive or do the upgrades when the kits are released.

Will most likely get the Western Maryland #75 GE 44 ton.  I'd like the Pennsy 9331 version as well, but am only going with one.

I like the Wisconsin Central SD45.  I think that would look good with the matching rapid discharge cars.  ...I'm a cheesehead.   MTH does a nice job offering regional roadnames.

I enjoyed flipping through the catalog. 

Am I the only one disappointed with the 44 Tonner? Not only no scale wheel version, but if the catalog art is to be believed it has a swinging pilot. Why would a 44T need a swinging pilot? I'm confused. DCC support, Kadee mounting pads, but swinging pilots and no scale wheels. I don't get the logic at all.

I must agree. New tooling, but no fixed pilots? As much as I wanted one of these, I guess I'll pass.

I agree completely.  The crosshead and guide are a huge detail that for me is a must and has to be correct.  As shown for the 611/612 it obviously is incorrect and a deal breaker for me.  The wheels are fixable and the tender issue for the 604 while incorrect is workable but they gotta get that correct crosshead/guide on 611/612.  MTH has gotten this detail correct on previous versions so I am puzzled by this catalogs images.  As for the rods I prefer the dbl. but that is not a deal breaker for me personally.   

As do I...a 20 year old recording???  A whistle blown on compressed air?  Should be interesting.

If I remember correctly, the real 611 whistle has been mounted on PM 1225 more than once, and digital sound recordings have been made by the MTH sound engineer.

The 44 tonner doesn't mention having cab figures either.

I wonder if the new App system with run the AIU and switches too...no mention of that?

I am sure they will make the sound file available after they record the 611 when it is back running next year.

Scott Smith

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 I am puzzled by this catalogs images.

You can tell that effort put into the making of this catalog was not what it should be. Look on page 69 and zoom in on the fireman's side cut lever and the spaces under the trees to the right. Page 86 is pretty funky looking too. Maybe it is just the online version. We will see. Again, I wonder if there is trouble in Columbia...Maryland, that is.