NEW WILLIAMS ENGINE SPECIALS BLOW OUT FP45's PLUS A LOT MORE

OK Pat - I just order the Santa Fe FP45 - it just looked too good to pass up at that great price.  Thanks!

Thanks, Ken

They look real nice.

Pat

Hello PAT..........

What other Williams Santa Fe engines you have for 99.95 ? The Williams Santa Fe NW-2 (purchased last March from you) is a GREAT runner !!

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,623

Tiffany

TIFFANY

The Santa Fe 212 #20095 has the same motor setup that your switcher has.

Thanks

Pat

Hello Pat...........

What about the Williams Santa Fe GP-9 ?

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,623

Tiffany

Boy those WBB FP45s are really showing their age.  Wonder if they plan on refreshing the tooling somewhat at some point?  Maybe not to necessarily put more add-on details but at least to make the simulated grab irons and other molded-in details a little crisper and stand out more.  Ditto on their SD45, although with that one the hood needs to be narrowed; way too wide.

For $100, they are a very nice locomotive, certainly on par with any of the postwar diesels or MPC re-issues I grew up on.  I think Williams, and WBB, understand at there is a market for sturdy, well made locomotives that don't cost $500 a pop.

Yes I have picked up the odd engine from Pat's and others that have had the Williams blowouts.

They are fine for the price.

And they make great engines to use the power trucks out of to repower other stuff!

Ordered an FP-45 SF colors on the 23rd, went out on the 24th, arrived here on the 26th (Georgia).   Excellent!  Thanks Pat's Trains.  Going to run trains.

Run perfectly!  Next it will receive the series treatment: motors in series with a couple of thermistors.  And LED headlights.  Great looking loco.  The handrails are better than I expected.

Are the Alco's scale? Or non-scale like the lionel originals?

Couldn't resist the Santa Fe.  And it doesn't break the budget.

Thanks,

Ed

Great deals from Pat.  A forum sponsors and worthy of our business. 

I have seen folks take the WBB conventional units and turn them into some slick DCS or TMCC units.  And I have seen some (like me) just be happy as can be running conventional.

If I have time over the weekend, I will attempt to seprately start a thread on the WBB / Williams pricing and explain this in plain language terms.  Whatever Bachmann or RMT does is their business, and I will not opine on the merits of it because I am not "there" and do not know the management and financial facts that drive them.  I do know I have gotten some really good deals lately on both WBB and RMT - and with that I am very pleased.  But what these companies do as a business goes beyond the hobby.  It involves macro economics, project management, merging of businesses (not easy to do), changes to business models, and moving ahead with new product AFTER the old product is out of the distribution channels (think Apple: they discount exisiting products to a certain price point in a effort to clear out inventory before the newer product goes on sale).

As much as we'd like the train business to be simple - they are just selling trains - it is not.  And for a retailer like Pat, man has it changed alot.  I give him credit and all the others for finding a way to continue to provide us with the joy that comes from visiting their train shops and hobby stores - and/or as things go in 2013 - seeing the UPS/FedEx truck pull up outside the house! 

My point had nothing to do with the viability of any business model but rather was simply that, as a consumer, I appreciate the choice and price point.  Moreover, everyone is entitled to an opinion regarding the desirability of anything, including a toy train, but good manners would indicate you should refrain from expressing such an opinion in a thread where a man (who is a forum sponsor, btw, so he is paying for the platform) is trying to make a living.

in a general discussion, yes.  Here, no.  

Just ordered a second Santa Fe FP-45.  I'm gonna run 'em back-to-back, modifying the second one to start in reverse.

They will most likely put the FP45 on the back burner and bring out the former K-Line F40PH and F59PHI which are highly detailed models.

Andrew 

I really do appreciate Pat's advertising pictureMaking should make selling tthese fine models a breeze....not to mention the excellent shopping costs !!

Tried your smoke fluid today...thanks again for the free offer.  Just haven't been able to try until this weekend.  Very thick puffs and a nice scent.

Thanks again.

Thanks Guys

These units are almost gone.

Thanks

Pat

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