Photos and Artwork: Colorful Passenger Trains--updated 2/27

Doubt it.  The locomotives pictured are also depicted as E3/6's(more or less), which Wabash had exactly none of.

Rusty

Rusty or anyone else, I'm just now getting familiar with the family of EMD E units and their visual differences.  How do you id the Wabash units pictured as E3 or E6 units?  I know why they aren't E4 or E5 units.  And also why they aren't E8 or E9 units.  What distinguishes them from E7's?

Yes, it would be a dream come true if train travel was still like this. But with today's costs it would be very expensive to ride a train with all those amenities. By the way I enjoyed those pictures of today's inflight low cost carrier air travel. You get what you pay for. Unfortunately, and sadly that's what today's travelling public want....cheap fares. With that comes a downgrade of service. I do confess I enjoy low fares for a short distance. And yes as a child I did travel coach on the Santa FE / New York Central from Los Angeles, CA to Utica, NY in 1954....not on a name train. But they still served fresh meals and had comfortable lounge cars.  On a previous transcontinental trip the family did travel on the 20th Century and the Super Chief from Grand Central to Los Angeles. Now that was somethin' else. Amazing. That trip was paid by the west coast relatives. Because my parents couldn't afford to travel that way.

luvtrains,

You said "You get what you pay for. Unfortunately, and sadly that's what today's travelling public want....cheap fares."

Don't forget speed. Most people don't want to travel 24 hours from NY to Orlando when they can make it in an hour by flying.

"Most people don't want to travel 24 hours from NY to Orlando when they can make it in an hour by flying."

actual flight time is a little more than 2 hours.  doesn't count taxi time to and from the actual runway.  also doesn't include security line time or departure delays (i was delayed recently on a flight out of JFK in perfect morning weather because of heavy air traffic).

i have made the train trip a couple of times and, aside from the slightly cramped seating in the dining car, was very enjoyable (and arrived ahead of schedule).  of course, we had sleeping accommodations.  

Here's some line drawings that give a quickie identification of the E3/6, E7 and E8 courtesy of Railroad Paint Shop. 

Bear in mind these are generic drawings without road-specific details, but they illustrate the differences reasonably well.

E3

The E3 was virtually identical to the E6, off the top of my head I don't know what differentiated them. 

Now the E3/E4/E5 were at the end of the customization era.  Note portholes and slotted pilot on this UP E3:

The slotted pilot on the City of St. Louis illustration appear to be part of the inspiration for the image.  Some "artistic license" also appears to be involved.  But the slotted pilot, numberboard location and lack of the vertical grill behind the doorway lead me to call it an E3/6.

The E7:

The E8:

Rusty

Jon,

The images, cartoon, and photos are great!!!  But the post blew up the page view.

The moderators will fix it; thanks for the images--they're terrific.

Rusty,

Thanks for the E model spotting guide.  The slotted pilot is something I overlooked.  But I do find that being able to identify at least some of the E model family is useful.

Thanks for taking the time to accumulate and post the images and information.

I wish I had Mill City's search function to find those terrific images he's been posting--they're terrific!

Living in Atlanta or environs for the better part of 35 years, Southern is my default railroad.  Here are a few images:

After careful staring at the E6 and E7 diagrams above the only difference I can see is the frames that appear through the side openings are at different angles. you are right HOT, I missed the angle difference on the nose and the window in the engine room door

The noses are completely different too.

continues to be a GREAT thread.  

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