Random Photos of Trolley Cars

Bobby Ogage posted:

I picked-up on this link from Jesse's post. Enjoy!

https://www.brookvillecorp.com...tcar-restoration.asp

What do you think about their claim of restoring "America's First Streetcar?"  Built in 1912?  They are qualifying their statement by saying it's the first car publicly purchased for a major city.  I am assuming they mean the city itself owned the streetcar line?  I have a hard enough time correcting people who think Richmond (1888) came before Scranton (1886).  

The real story of Oklahoma City's former interurbans, they ran from OKC outward to Yukon, in the West of the state; North to Guthrie; East to Shawnee, Okla.   In addition they had miles of trackage throughout Oklahoma City, connecting all parts and a main means of getting around.  Just as shown in the movie "Who Shot Roger Rabbit ?", General Motors Corp. bought the entire system, tracks and equipment, in 1947 and immediately scrapped every bit of it, replacing it for the city with GM manufactured motor buses.  How many times, in how many American cities and towns, did this occur?  Not one single OKC streetcar preserved for history...…….. only black and white photos.

Jesse   TCA

Cities like New York caused the demise of street car lines by freezing fares regardless of operating cost increases. New York City froze the street car fare at 5 cents.

GM, Firestone, and oil companies were also responsible for the demise of street car lines Jesse says.

 

Bobby Ogage

"I hear that train a coming,

it's Long Island No. 39 rolling

around the bend"

 

Bobby Ogage posted:

Cities like New York caused the demise of street car lines by freezing fares regardless of operating cost increases. New York City froze the street car fare at 5 cents.

GM, Firestone, and oil companies were also responsible for the demise of street car lines Jesse says.

 

From what I've read the demise of New York City's early surface transportation was due to both Mayor La Guardia and Robert Moses wanting to transform the city and the surrounding boroughs into what was their idea of a modern society.  That model did not include what they considered old and outmoded forms of transportation such as trolleys, elevateds and the like.  Highway, cars and buses were the way to go.  After all these years don't they wish they still had some of those outmoded forms of transportation?  

Erie Street Railway #601


A good deal of strategic planning is like a ritual rain dance.

It has no effect on the weather that follows, but those who engage in it think it does. 

Furthermore, much of the advice related to strategic planning is directed at improving the

dancing, not the weather.

 

 

Great stuff.  I've just finished reading an Arcadia Publishing book about Montgomery County, Pa. trolleys.  And have already read a couple of others about Philadelphia's trolleys.  I am old enough to recall riding the older type, what I call the New Orleans type, trolleys.  I also have been around long enough to remember the trolley depot in Willow Grove, Pa.  

Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a time machine, just to be able to visit those times.

Dan Padova

 

"In the course of my life I have had to eat my words, and I must confess it was a wholesome diet"..........Winston Churchill

                                                                                                                                        

Here are some current trolleysCavalcade of Streetcars #8Cavalcade of Streetcars #7Cavalcade of Streetcars #5Cavalcade of Streetcars #4Cavalcade of Streetcars #3Cavalcade of PCC Streetcars in SF #1Streetcars and police cars at the West Portal TunnelL Line Trolley at the West Portal Tunnel #2 [1 of 1)Trolley on Fish Wharf-004San Diego PCC Trolley on Market St Easter-007Milan Trolley Car-0061928 Melbourne, Australia Trolley #496The Christmas TrolleyAnother Trolley-077L Line Trolley at the West Portal Tunnel #2 [1 of 1) and PCC streetcars of San Francisco.  They are run by the San Francisco Municipal Railway.  Some are modern.  Some are vintage trolleys and PCC Streetcars from around the world and the United States.  They run regular routes, daily.  Matt

Railway termini are our gates to the glorious and the unknown. Through them we pass out into adventure and sunshine, to them, alas! we return.
Edward M. Forster

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A good deal of strategic planning is like a ritual rain dance.

It has no effect on the weather that follows, but those who engage in it think it does. 

Furthermore, much of the advice related to strategic planning is directed at improving the

dancing, not the weather.

 

 

Hi Bobby

Looking at the first Photo in your recent post, I am thinking that this is a car on the Williamsburg Bridge, probably a B&QT car on the Brooklyn side. 

For the last Photo, there was a fellow who wanted to get a street car line going in Downtown Brooklyn to Red Hook. He had several PCCs acquired from others. The PCCs in the photo look like painted in the Board of Transport colors but they have standee winters. So they are not original Broolyn cars. Thinking the location is maybe in Erie Basin or at the Navy yard where these cars were kept until the project died its death. They had that small European style car you see in the foreground as well. The PCCs look like they may have been Washington CD cars . Looks like a Lehigh Valley sign in the backround. Maybe a freight car or barge?

 

LIRR Steamer

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