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Francine, a post from Bill Lane over of the s-scale group:
Last summer I was promoting making more roofs for the S Helper Service/American Models coach to make them look ³more Reading² it sort of faded because my urethane caster became unavailable. I just got a somewhat surprise box of new castings. They are pretty good, but he has made better. They are the correct length. Some had some length shrinker some unknown reason.
So I am just putting this out again. Things are possible again. If you were interested last year maybe you still are. I don¹t have any prices yet, but I think we are looking at about $25.00 per roof + some contribution to cover the new mold.
With these new samples and a little TLC I am already more than covered for my modeling needs forever. This is for the rest that missed them years ago. I know say my projects are one and done. This truly will be the last time I make more of these roofs.
Reply with what you are thinking you want. No need to send money now.
Thank You,
Bill Lane bill@lanestrains.com
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Hi Tom,
I received the same email last night from Bill and already answered to tentatively commit to two roofs.
My concerns: Bill states, "pretty good, but he has done better". The price is now about $25 plus cost of mold, plus shipping, So in truth we don't know what we're getting and at what price. I committed to two roofs (I actually need more) but until I see pricing and quality, I am holding back.
Also I was informed by Dave at Lbr enterprises that my Reading Decals will arrive this weekend.
Francine
Francine posted:Hi Tom,
My concerns: Bill states, "pretty good, but he has done better". The price is now about $25 plus cost of mold, plus shipping, So in truth we don't know what we're getting and at what price. I committed to two roofs (I actually need more) but until I see pricing and quality, I am holding back.
Francine
Yeah, I hear you on this one. Don’t forget the ones that have shrunk in length… Not to mention the price; I was quoted was $20.00+shipping. I have written for a clarification from him.
I don’t care much for urethane and have made the mental jump to vacuum forming the roofs out of .04” styrene. Nothing adheres all that well to urethane and that includes paint. After seeing his roof vents, I am going to past on them – they really aren’t right.
My guess is I am on my own for this adventure.
Tom Stoltz
Hi Tom,
I'm indecisive on this, as people who know Bill swear he is a genuine Reading Master. But the price is going from $20 to "about $25" plus asking for mold reimbursement and shipping - this is steep and as noted before the roofs are "shrunken" as well as "not the best".
I am not familiar with "urethane" - the stuff I use is either 2 part epoxy or polyester - I hope its not the pink/blue roofing stuff, that would be crap. This is really starting to look like a "pig in a polk'.
I may go back to a balsa form and heat gun abs plastic over it.
Francine
I got the decals from LBR Enterprises last Friday, and they are very good. My passenger cars look like Readings now, except for the roof.
Francine posted:I got the decals from LBR Enterprises last Friday, and they are very good. My passenger cars look like Readings now, except for the roof.
Great, how about some photos? Are you going to do the roofs?
Tom Stoltz
Hi Tom,
Awaiting word on the roofs from Bill Lane. Let me ask the experts, isn't urethane the material that stuffs chair cushions? I don't know any other.
Photos - can I just copy and paste? Or is it one of those you have to post from a site?
But they look just like the photos above, just with the wrong roof.
Francine
Francine posted:Hi Tom,
Awaiting word on the roofs from Bill Lane. Let me ask the experts, isn't urethane the material that stuffs chair cushions? I don't know any other.
Urethane is a two part casting resin you can do at home. It is pretty easy to do. The problem I have with urethane is it can warp, only CAs can adhere to it (it doesn’t even stick to itself on a second casting) and it doesn’t hold paint that well.
Tom Stoltz
Depending on your level of neurosis,the Reading coaches are, almost always, 72-ft cars. If you're working with plastic/urethane sides, you need to cut about 8 ft from each side; ditto if you're using someone else's roof.
Re the T-1..if you start with a Berkshire chassis you could "roll your own" superstructure from styrene.
Look at what this guy does:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/60361449@N02/page7
Francine,
FWIW, from the S-Scale group:
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Date: Fri May 27, 2016 8:18 am ((PDT))
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Thanks, and take care
Bill
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Hi Tom,
Couldn't get into the site. Tried I phone, home computer and work computer, no joy.
Francine
Francine posted:Hi Tom,
Couldn't get into the site. Tried I phone, home computer and work computer, no joy.
Francine
Francine,
Try this link which should be the correct one:
http://www.btsrr.com/btsdet01.htm
Unfortunately, the sale might be over, but at least you will be able to see what parts are available.
Mike A.
Ok Tom, worked this time. Thanks, but was hoping to find some steam stuff.
Francine
I haven't heard a word from bill Lane regarding the Reading roofs, has anyone?
I have an 18 inch o gauge silowet windows . I think it is Weaver. E mail if interested
Francine,
How are you doing with the Reading coach roofs? From the S-trains & s-scale lists:
Mon May 15, 2017 12:58 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
I am offering a Harriman (Arch) roof, cast in resin and made to fit on American Models 72' heavyweights. The roof has rivet & seam detail. Also available are roof vents often used on Harriman roofs, both Utility and Globe types. Some google research reveals the following railroads used cars with Arch roofs: SP, UP, IC, C of G, RI, WP, D&RGW, Alton, CN, CP, and several Mexican roads. The SP used them from 1909 until 1980, and the IC until the 70's. I have found prototypes for coach, diner, observation, baggage, and a variety of combination baggage cars (coach, RPO, auto, horse, club) in this length or within a couple of feet. To see photos and order go to: http://www.pre-size.com/produc...ar_PartsPS514193.php
Steve Wolcott, Pre-Size Model Specialties
Name:
Harriman (Arch) Passenger Car Roof
Product ID:
PS514
Comments:
The Harriman, or Arch, roof is designed to fit the American Models' 72-foot heavyweight passenger cars. The roof has rivet and seam detail, and is cast in high-quality resin. These roofs were used on cars of the following railroads: SP, UP, IC, C of G, RI, WP, D&RGW, Alton, CN, CP, and several Mexican roads. The SP used them from 1909 until 1980, and the IC until the 70s. Cars that had these types of roofs were coaches, diner cars, observation cars, baggage cars, and a variety of combination baggage cars (coach, RPO, auto, horse, club). Our free shipping policy applies to these roofs! Photos show example American Models car body installations (not included). Be sure to check out our Globe (PS519) and Utility Vents (PS518), available separately for detailing your roofs.
Price:
$34.00
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I have one and will be ordering more.
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
Lots of interest here for Reading, I put together an O gauge Ramble with an MTH Proto 2.0 T1 and
K line cars all purchased on the forum. Judging from the response this looks like an opportunity for someone in S to make!
Hi Tom,
Looks like they would work, but $34 plus shipping for one roof?! A little steep - since the cars are like $69 each. Actually I haven't been too happy with the American Models Passenger Cars, as they have a bad tendency to uncouple - whereas the Flyonel don't.
Working on a solution, but without my own layout - it is difficult.
Francine
As with anything S, either buy while you can or roll your own. I what to try vacuum mold in styrene but can I make a master and set up the equipment for $34 a shot? And when will I get to it? Suddenly the cost isn't too much...
Tom Stoltz
in Maine
