S Scale Frisco Meteor Passenger Car Set - American Models

Good news for those who wanted the cars.  Should make a nice looking and distinctive train.

Rusty

Really nice example of the consumer working with the "industry" to make something happen!! 

Bill, will you by chance have a picture of what the car/cars will look like? 

Ben

 

No pictures available and I don't know when there will be some to post.  I won't have any till my set has been received.

Mark sent American Models photos he got from online sources to be modeled for the set.  I am sure that they will be as close to the real thing as possible.  They will all have 6 wheel trucks just as Frisco used.  That has added $10 to the cost.

There will only be 50 sets made so if you have interest I would be talking to American Models on the 27th before they are gone.

I love this train set. I have the O Gauge version that MTH made and I converted it over to TMCC with John's Super-Chuffer.

It is on my layout all of the time and I probably run that train more than any other. The real steamer #4500 is setting in one of our parks here in Springfield, MO,

banjoflyer posted:

 

I'm sure Ron will do an outstanding job on these cars. The Frisco purists may "poo-poo" the types of heavyweight cars Ron has as not exactly  matching the Frisco cars of that type (believe me I heard it all while doing the research). I'm not such a purist. I am thankful for all the help I received from Frisco aficionados on the internet.

 

I know I get hung up on something oversized or undersized, but I'm somewhat flexible when it come to length.

The Lionel/Flyer heavyweight cars wouldn't be much more accurate either.  I'm not sure they even have a specific prototype.  The AM cars are pretty nice, and with 6-wheel trucks under them, they look even better:

Sometimes, ya gots ta go with whats ya gots, particularly in S.  There are guys that wouldn't buy the AM Budd's because they're not full length.  They're holding out for proper full length cars.  They're still waiting since 2001...

I think you guys will have a winner on your hands.

Rusty

Ron Bashista, sent me an email and said that he is planning to make an extra coach with a different number for those who want one.  Not a lot of these extras will be made.  

I am very pleased that American models are going to make a set for the Frisco. On the color I thought the passenger colors were of two shades of DuPont red  not blue?

Bill, is the reason Big L isn't going to make cars for the Comet something that can be shared? It might help us understand the decision making process at L.

Cocker: Frisco may have had a number of colored coaches on its Meteor train, but I don't want red behind this engine on my layout.  Do You? It's a blue and white engine.

The reason why Lionel isn't making passenger cars was written by me earlier here and in the S Gaugian.  Lionel uses two separate companies, one to make the engines and the other to make cars.  The minimum order for cars is much larger than engines.  Lionel didn't want to have bunches of extra car sets with no engines for them.   

I agree with you Bill and my hats off to Ron for making these for us.  I'm in for a set. I currently have the Katty cars dehind the Frisco, and blue would look a lot better.  I almost put the Jesery cars behind it.  I only threw it out there after some research.  Yes the blue would look much better

Bill I also appreciate your writings and communication between all the builders of our hobby.  Thanks!!!

Mark thanks for the article and yes we will have a beautiful set of cars being pulled by the Blue Frisco!!!!!   I really enjoy mine and it runs and looks great!

Bill, Now that you reminded me of that statement, I remember it. This is also probably why they didn't do the previously announced passenger sets. This is why outsourcing and JIT production and inventory control are not always the best system for "Short run" production, as most of the AF line is. Not to preach, but "in the old days" ACG would run a mold and have lots of shells on hand to store. If, say, you want to make 300 sets of ABC railroad passenger cars, they would set up the paint & finishing lines and produce them using shells on hand. In some ways this is more efficient than the JIT production system. Usually the cost of storage is offset by the reduction in per-piece molding costs. However this assumes the product is being made "In house" and planning and stock-on-hand information is readily available. This is also why shared trucks were used, truck production might be this week, body production next week, etc. etc. This is also why ACG used the same pieces to build different items (motors, for example). Nowadays we have to wait our turn in the production line and then the plant is making THAT item. Afterwards, only the tooling is stored (if it isn't destroyed). Of course, I may be all wrong; what do I know??

I would love to find a Frisco Baldwin 4-8-2 like the 1522.  That would look good with the heavyweights painted the red/silver scheme

KBOFHP:  You must be an O gauge guy.  S will probably never have a 4-8-2 Baldwin.

Nope - just S.  There is also a Frisco streamline that I would love to see - it pulled the Firefly.  Looks like the Royal Blue but in Frisco colors

Roundhouse Bill posted:

KBOFHP:  You must be an O gauge guy.  S will probably never have a 4-8-2 Baldwin.

Even the O gauge guys haven't been able to talk a manufacturer into a Frisco 4-8-2...

Rusty

But those blue/gray heavyweights would look great behind a Firefly Streamliner.....I would love to know what blue and gray colors you were planning to use.  It would fit with a project I am thinking of (another thread).....

I just talked to Ron Bashista at American Models and he is getting orders for the Meteor passenger sets.  They are coming fast and early.  He didn't remember how many. but he was real happy with the number. Remember he is making just 50 sets.  $340 plus shipping for 5 cars.  An extra car with a separate number is available.   

I would recommend you getting on board with an order if you want a set.

He said the cars aren't ready to ship yet but will be pretty soon.

Let's see: Request for product, August 2016 (or thereabouts), announcement of product, January 2017, Likely delivery March 2017--7 months. I think that has to be a record for modern times. I think Ron needs to be highly praised for this production. I don't have one of the matching engines, or I'd be on the "Must have one" list too!

traindavid posted:

Let's see: Request for product, August 2016 (or thereabouts), announcement of product, January 2017, Likely delivery March 2017--7 months. I think that has to be a record for modern times. I think Ron needs to be highly praised for this production. I don't have one of the matching engines, or I'd be on the "Must have one" list too!

Same here.  I've been a fan of American Models for years, and Ron is a member of our club, the Southeastern Michigan S Gaugers.  His big advantage in getting things out is most of his production is here in Michigan.  No waiting for a "slow boat from China".  He's done a few convention, spree and fest cars for us and many others. 

traindavid posted:

Let's see: Request for product, August 2016 (or thereabouts), announcement of product, January 2017, Likely delivery March 2017--7 months. I think that has to be a record for modern times. I think Ron needs to be highly praised for this production. I don't have one of the matching engines, or I'd be on the "Must have one" list too!

I would guess Ron has, say about 50 sets of undercoated 5 car sets (plus an undisclosed number of undec coaches) in stock and it was a matter of preparing artwork and scheduling with his painter. 

No BTO here, it's OTB (order to build.)  Number 51's going to be crying in his smoke fluid...

This is going to be a really nice train for you guys that order it.

AM's done a number of Fest and Spree cars and as far as I can recall, nobody's ever had to wait until after the event to get their car, except for one time when AM was contracted as a last minute replacement supplier when another one had to bow out.

Rusty

Yes, he had unpainted cars to make this set.  No production just painting.  I had to send him the tender of my Frisco Northern so he could match the colors to be the same as Lionel delivered.  Still, it only took about 7 weeks to get it done.  

When I talked with him today the paint job was in progress.  None are ready to ship.

He said mine would ship first so when I get them I will post photos here.  I hope around March 1st.

 

 

Well, as I discussed (in another thread, I believe), one of the advantages to making product "in house" is that when you "run a mold" it is more cost effective to make more product than you will need AT THAT POINT and store the extras "on the shelf." (molding 1000 pieces is almost the same cost as molding 500; per piece cost though is almost one-half)  Of course, this means you have to have shelves with space to store them (space is money), and you have to keep track of them too (that's not so hard nowadays with computers). This is what ACG did. One day the line might be making freight car trucks; well, you make "bunches" of them as the machinery and the people are 'jigged up" (politically incorrect term now) to do that job. Into the bins they go, so when tank cars, or flat cars or whatever are on the assembly line, the trucks are all ready to go on.  This is just the opposite of JIT (Just In Time) production and inventorying used nowadays. But, for a long-term product line it can be more economical to do. It also allows one to respond to unexpected market demand. It is also why so much of ACG production used shared components.

This kind of thinking runs counter to "modern" production ideas, but, as we have seen here, it allows one to meet an unforeseen product demand. In this case, it is a win-win. We get cars to put behind a neat locomotive, Ron gets accolades for producing them AND income (I hope!), and uses up some inventory. Of course, the downside is that he will have to make more car body parts the next time he wants to create another passenger set. But on the upside, he probably gets some more loyal customers (Loyal customers, what an antiquated idea!).

Ron might say, "no big deal," but for "the other guys" who are locked into modern production overseas, it IS a big deal. For example, I am still waiting for my S-Fest Root Beer cars--I'm sure I'll get them, but it's a long wait!  I'm told it is because of a miscommunications with the production manager in China. In Ron's case he just walks over to the production floor and says, "Hey, where are those cars??" (Actually, Ron is probably the production manager, so he just talks to himself--err, uh,. . Never mind. . . .)

Now Ron, about that Daylight 4-8-4. . . . .(you have the correct cars to run behind it!)

The thing to remember is that Ron at AM isn't a miracle worker, he just appears that way  because he normally doesn't announce until his products are at least in transit. 

From what he told me a couple of years ago is he now makes the trains here, but sends them off to China for decorating.  (Now, I don't know if it was just locomotives or everything.  He didn't specify.)There wound up being about a 4-5 month delay for the T&P sets because of the west coast dock strike back then.

Plus, the car I mentioned earlier was the 2012 Fest car, a Soo Line gondola.  I took pictures of mine the day it arrived in March (I double-checked now that I'm home) 2014.  So, he had to start from scratch to supply these cars, which gives us a rough idea of how long the cycle is.

Rusty

I had heard he sends them to China for decorating, but I can't believe someone can't do it here--the shipping costs have to add quite a bit to the decorating costs. Maybe it's that good paint can't be had here due to environmental regulations. Where Ron is a "miracle worker" is that he apparently understands the S market better than "the other guys." And he has production control close by, not clean across the globe. One of the things that happens when stuff is made "over there" is that they send you a pre-production model to check, and then when you approve it, someone over there thinks he/she has a better way of producing it and the production run isn't quite the same as the sample--creating problems! With Ron, the guy on the line says, "what if we do this?" and Ron can immediately say, "That idea is NO good!" No problem! Outsourcing is not always (actually seldom is) the best way.

One thing:

American Models trains were being built by Sanda Kan in China before they fired most of their customers.  I don't know when exactly AM's Chinese production started, probably early 2000's.  I have E8 boxes that say either Made in U.S.A or Made in China.

Rusty

Have ordered my set. My Hats-off to Ron for making this set. Have spoke to him on many occasions about train conversions using his trucks, motors and drive systems. He will always say will or won't work on pactuliar project im working on. A very good supplier for our hobby   Will answer all gyrations with-out having to talk to a tech.  He is his company's tech.  After we lost SHS in our hobby who else sells a product that can give you a owner to customer phone conversion

traindavid posted:

I had heard he sends them to China for decorating, but I can't believe someone can't do it here--the shipping costs have to add quite a bit to the decorating costs. 

I was told this morning when I ordered that they are painting them stateside at their facility. The lettering is being applied today.

Now THAT's an "On the spot report"! I'm guessing the cars don't require the ultra small fine printing that locomotive builder's plates, etc. do. I still say this is a remarkable response to a product request. I wonder what the folks over at "Big L" are thinking?? Maybe they aren't paying any attention. . .

From the original post, I guess we can order now, and not wait until the 27th, as it appears the run is selling out. I wonder how many different road numbers the extra car comes in?

traindavid posted:

Now THAT's an "On the spot report"! I'm guessing the cars don't require the ultra small fine printing that locomotive builder's plates, etc. do. I still say this is a remarkable response to a product request. I wonder what the folks over at "Big L" are thinking?? Maybe they aren't paying any attention. . .

Lionel will probably decide in two years to make Meteor cars...

Rusty

Ron has the ability to do painting here, but the more complicated schemes are sometimes best done by those who specialize.  That's the case with the new RS-11s.  When my club talked about the Detroit and Mackinac cars for our event, we showed it to Ron and his foreman, Joe, and they said that although it could be tough, they could handle it in house.  The result was as good as any I've seen.  From Joe's comments at the time, the tough part was getting the maroon and white to look the same over different undercoat colors.  It looks OK to me!

So the paint scheme for the Meteor, not being that complicated, should come out just as nice.  It almost makes me wish I had bought one of Lionel's Northerns.

It's also a treat to visit his facility.  He has the space to store extra stock, and seeing shelves and shelves stacked with various shells and chassis is like visiting a candy factory!  BTW, he's in the process of moving to a larger place...  I wish him the best.

Oh, and David, I don't think that "jigged" up is all that wrong.  As you know, in a factory, jigs and fixtures are used all the time.

News Flash..... 

I just heard that Ron told one of his dealers that he was only making 30 sets.  If you want one it may be time to hurry.

Roundhouse Bill posted:

News Flash..... 

I just heard that Ron told one of his dealers that he was only making 30 sets.  If you want one it may be time to hurry.

THEORY: Maybe that's to protect the individuals who ordered direct.  After all, how would you guys feel after all this effort if the dealers sucked up all the sets?

Or, he could have orders for 20 sets already.

Rusty

The dealer was Doug Peck and now Doug reports via email to me that the first batch is sold out.  Doug says he might make more later in the spring. That shows demand is good for these cars.

Lionel probably made hundreds of the engines and they sold out quick.

Roundhouse Bill posted:

The dealer was Doug Peck and now Doug reports via email to me that the first batch is sold out.  Doug says he might make more later in the spring. That shows demand is good for these cars.

Lionel probably made hundreds of the engines and they sold out quick.

Second batch?  Wow.  Sounds like the boys at Circle L missed the train.

Rusty

Rusty Traque posted:

Roundhouse Bill posted:

The dealer was Doug Peck and now Doug reports via email to me that the first batch is sold out.  Doug says he might make more later in the spring. That shows demand is good for these cars.

Lionel probably made hundreds of the engines and they sold out quick.

Second batch?  Wow.  Sounds like the boys at Circle L missed the train.

Rusty

Not the firSt time....

You guys....Anyway to be critical of Lionel and you're on it.   

When Lionel does something praiseworthy (like the SD70's Es44's Y3's, Challengers, the F/C Northern's, maybe even the F/C GP7's once they come out) they get praise.  I would have given the F/C Berk a fair and balanced review if Lionel didn't short my dealer's distributor.

I even like the New Haven Legacy PA's, even though upgraded traditional Flyer isn't part of my acquisition strategy now.

When they blow it (particularly on something obvious) well...  Why should we sit here and just accept it with a smile on our face.  Every now and then the Emperor has to be told he has no cloths... 

They seem to be rather adept at blaming us, the market, for their mistakes and misfires.

Disclosure: I don't have the Frisco Northern nor did I order the cars, but that doesn't mean I don't think it's not a neat idea.  I've talked a friend of mine to bring everything over for pictures after his cars arrive.

Rusty

Rusty:  Has any official from Lionel ever written here or anywhere else being critical of the "market" for its actions?  What blame did they send your way?

Their reason for not producing passenger cars for the Meteor was explained here by me.  It was simply a logical business decision.

Ron could do it because he had the blank cars and it was not his plan to attempt to match the number of Meteor engines made.  Even then we had to work to get him to make them as he was not eager to do it.  I am glad he did and I hope he makes more sets.

Roundhouse Bill posted:

Their reason for not producing passenger cars for the Meteor was explained here by me.  It was simply a logical business decision.

It may have logical and even necessary, but it reeks of a poor business model.  Not much need for the engine in that scheme without the cars. 

They did this years ago in O with the T&P 4-8-2.  Fortunately, a K-Line dealer came through with a custom paint run of cars.  Looks like that's what's happening now in S.

Of course, in both cases, one could just pull Pullmans, but the appeal of the pretty paint schemes is in the matching. 

I guess I really should be grateful to get anything in Frisco, MoPac, or T&P, but I still see their business model as flawed if they cannot match up the sets.  And that IS their fault, not the market's.

 

Roundhouse Bill posted:

Mark Hieger and I have been working with Ron Bashista, owner of American Models, since last summer to produce heavyweight passenger car sets for the FlyerChief Frisco Meteor Northern locomotive Lionel shipped at the end of the year.  I am happy to say that Ron has these sets in production and will begin to take orders on the 27th of February.  Do not contact American Models before the 27th as he is not prepared to take orders and ship till then.

When I interviewed Ryan Kunkle, of Lionel, at York last April for the S Gaugian he said Lionel was not going to produce cars for the engine.

Mark has supplied information about the cars and their colors to American Models so that Ron could paint and letter them appropriately.  I supplied information about the colors of paint Lionel was to use on the engine and explained to him why Lionel was not going to produce matching cars for the locomotive.

American Models is only going to produce 50 sets.  There are 5 cars per set as with his other heavyweight sets. The cars are baggage, railway post office, combine car, coach, and observation car.  The price will be $340 plus shipping.

Please remember not to place an order for the set till February 27th.

What happened to not placing an order before the 27th?

Well, you said yourself in an another post that both Lionel and MTH think we're too demanding... 

Awwww....  Just because we would like good looking, good running, properly portioned models.

The biggest criticism about MTH is the Showcase Line Glacier.  However, Lionel's pulled some blunders over the past couple of years and it appears to be somehow our fault for being critical.

You should read some of the criticisms on the 3-rail O side...

Passenger cars for passenger locomotives.  What a concept...  Wonder how long the purchasers of the New Haven, Santa Fe and Mopac PA's will be left high and dry?  I suspect the purchasers of the Milwaukee, UP and NYC 4-8-4's would have appreciated some passenger cars, also.

Fortunately, AM (apparently with some arm twisting) is able to take advantage of and profit from Lionel's logical business decision.

Rusty

Bill

They have my money, that gives me standing to gripe when appropriate, and the very fact that they have my money is proof that I like very much of what they make. 

Ben

Rusty Traque posted:

Well, you said yourself in an another post that both Lionel and MTH think we're too demanding... 

Awwww....  Just because we would like good looking, good running, properly portioned models.

The biggest criticism about MTH is the Showcase Line Glacier.  However, Lionel's pulled some blunders over the past couple of years and it appears to be somehow our fault for being critical.

You should read some of the criticisms on the 3-rail O side...

Passenger cars for passenger locomotives.  What a concept...  Wonder how long the purchasers of the New Haven, Santa Fe and Mopac PA's will be left high and dry?  I suspect the purchasers of the Milwaukee, UP and NYC 4-8-4's would have appreciated some passenger cars, also.

Fortunately, AM (apparently with some arm twisting) is able to take advantage of and profit from Lionel's logical business decision.

Rusty

Interesting discussion. Microscale has the same issues, makes engine decals yet no caboose or passenger car decals for the road name and then say they do not sell. This guy seems pretty smart. Wonder how many engines Lionel could have sold by selling a train for it to pull. Once things are tooled up, the decoration cost is minimal.

On the 27th order date.....Ron gave me that date.  I did not make it up.  I guess he changed his mind and took orders????

Bill, I would hope Big L would look upon our criticism as constructive, and educational. If we're a bit picky, well, then that's the S Gauge market. I've praised them for doing things right, WHEN they do them right--which shows they CAN! That's what gives me some hope. There are some little things I don't understand that they do; like the re-issue of the Daylight cars. The original ones had silver ends, so do the re-issues; but the prototype have red ends; if they had done red ends on the re-issue, then there would be no confusion as to which one one has. Down the road this may be important for collector, and maybe not--but the new cars would be more faithful to the real ones, something we S gaugers strangely like. But now I'm getting far afield of this thread's subject title. I hope Ron finds this project to be a great boost to his business; maybe he'll do more specialized runs like this.

I just got off the phone with Ron Bashista.  He made around 40 sets to be conservative.  He didn't want unsold sets.  He may start shipping next week.

He said he had 15 people on the waiting list for the next batch.  If you want a set please give American Models a call and place your order.

My set arrived today.  Here is a video...

I tried once before and it didn't show.  Trying again.

Sorry, they are not very sharp.

Get sound, but no video.

Rusty

I get the thumbnail but no video plays. 

Sorry, it said it would play.

I just clicked on it and I have sound and movement.

Worked for me.  Can't wait to get mine.

Brendan

Brendan posted:

Worked for me.  Can't wait to get mine.

Brendan

Me three!

It sounds good. I tried two different iPads, an old 2 and a new Pro. On both I just get a still of the first frame. I tried 2 different computers, one in a dock with a monitor, one undocked using its built in screen. I tried both Firefox and IE. In all cases sound but no picture. My reluctant conclusion is three of us forum members must not have been added to the FOB list!

It worked for me first try on Windows 10 using the Google Chrome browser.

Bill

Any chance for just a few pictures of the cars 

Ben

I too received my set today. The cars are great except.......the Blue color does not match the engine and tender. The blue on the cars is more of a Navy Blue. I call the engine and tender blue more of a "Purplish Blue". Not sure what happened on Ron's end as he was furnished a tender to match the colors. Oh well. The roofs are black while the prototype cars had a gray roof. No biggie. The white stripe at the window line is well done and continues onto the end doors as on the prototype.  In any event the cars are fully illuminated when run with the FlyerChief engine at the required 18 Volts. Only the baggage car is unlighted. I will add LED lighting to mine. The six wheel trucks on all cars really gives them that "Heavyweight" look. All the car numbers and names are authentic to the Meteor cars the Frisco repainted to this blue color with one exception...The Frisco never painted  an open platform observation car for the blue Meteor cars. However there was a Frisco Observation car (I think in Pullman Green) with the name "St. Louis" so.....since the set had an open platform car.....Ta Da!

I wouldn't let the blue color discrepancy deter me from buying this set. They look great being pulled by the Frisco 4-8-4.

Note...I ordered the extra coach car. The actual set contains 5 cars...baggage, RPO, combination, coach and observation. I think the extra coach is the one named Joplin. I wasn't paying that close attention when I opened the boxes and the car names are not printed on the box flap so if you want to know if there are more than 1 extra coach car and what it's name is you will have to contact Ron at American Models.

Anyway here's some pics of the six cars. I'll get a video up tomorrow.

Still, they look good.  You guys that bought the sets have something very unique and dare I say "rare?"

Those so inclined could always repaint the roofs, although I think the black roof makes the cars look longer.

Rusty

These are beautiful. Thanks for sharing these photos.

Mark:  Great pictures!!  Why don't you show the engine next to a car so people can see the color situation?  Thanks

banjoflyer posted:

Hey all, here's a video of the Frisco train at slow speed so you can see all the numbers and names on the cars. If you pause the video at the point where the tender and baggage car are showing together you may be able to discern the color difference in the blue paint. To tell the truth when viewed from above like most layouts are seen it's not real apparent that the colors are different. Mostly you see the black roofs.

With the video being shot at track level you can see some light leakage between the roof and body of the heavyweights. That's kind of common on these AM heavyweights as my Katy cars do the same thing. I don't know if it can be remedied but it's not noticeable when viewed from above.

I hope the video plays OK as when I view it at home it pauses occasionally but that may just be my crappy internet provider and a clogged up network.

 

Mark

 

Very nice videos. Thanks.

banjoflyer posted:

With the video being shot at track level you can see some light leakage between the roof and body of the heavyweights. That's kind of common on these AM heavyweights as my Katy cars do the same thing. I don't know if it can be remedied but it's not noticeable when viewed from above.

 

 

I usually line the roof down to just above the windows with Aluminum tape  That could cover the gap.

Brendan

Thanks.  My goal was to have a brighter car and cut down on the amount of power needed for the LED strip so it would last longer with the capacitor.

Brendan

Mark thanks for videos.  Mine will be here tomorrow.  Not really thrilled with the color but will enjoy the cars anyway. They do look good.  Hats off to Ron for making the set.  By the way where did you get the sign installer in video?  I like that

Thanks Mark. Will be searching e-bay.        Steve

Bill and Mark,

You both mention the color discrepancy between the locomotive and the cars.  I watched the videos of both and the color looks closer on Bills video, can you tell me if one or the other is closer to what you see as you look at your sets?

Ray

Ray, I am sure the cars are painted exactly alike.  Any difference would be only with the different cameras we used. We live 900 miles apart so we can't compare side by side.  I do have two other sets I got for members of my club and all 15 cars are exactly alike. The set does work for me OK even with a little color difference.  

If you look at the pictures mark posted of the actual cars that color is close to the ones American Models painted.

I like my set also,even though the color is no dead-on it is still a Frisco passenger train. I am pleased to have ordered one

Looks like everyone is receiving their sets. I just checked my credit card online. I wasn't charged for the set yet. So I'm thinking even though I ordered before it was said they were all sold out I fell through the cracks again as I did with the Flyonel Berkshires.

I have mixed feelings. No matching cars to go with my Northern. Wrong color match on the other hand, so I don't have that to carp about. Let's see what happens.  

Bill & Mark,

I can see that color transmission over the internet is not very true to life. It is probably a combination of lighting and camera settings. Mark, the color swatches that you posted look like the colors that came thru to my computer from Bills video, I would call that very acceptable. You are a couple of very fortunate people, enjoy your sets and runem like you gotem!

Ray

Quick Casey posted:

Looks like everyone is receiving their sets. I just checked my credit card online. I wasn't charged for the set yet. So I'm thinking even though I ordered before it was said they were all sold out I fell through the cracks again as I did with the Flyonel Berkshires.

I have mixed feelings. No matching cars to go with my Northern. Wrong color match on the other hand, so I don't have that to carp about. Let's see what happens.  

Quick Casey, mine just shipped today! There's hope...

Was you card charged today? I have no charge on the card I gave them. That's why I'm suspicious.

Quick Casey posted:

Was you card charged today? I have no charge on the card I gave them. That's why I'm suspicious.

Yes today

Thanks. That makes me feel better.

American Models was without power and phones due to the wind. Could be the reason for some delay. 

Received my set yesterday with extra coach car. Color is a little off but they still look great. Note in box said out of power no receipt.