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Hoping someone could fill me in as to how many times Lionel has run the Sager Place Observation car?  Anything else I should know about the history of this car?

 

I have ordered the yet to be delivered Lionel Conventional Classics Berkshire passenger set and would like to pick up a Sager Place to go with the set. 

 

Thanks.

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Sager Place is the street by the Lionel factory in Irvington, NJ. A 2626 Observation Car with that name was listed in Lionel's 1946 advance catalog but not produced. That number was missing from the Madison series: 2625, 2627, 2628.

 

Williams was the first to produce a Madison-series observation car (as well as a baggage car and a combination car) but Lionel was the only firm that made an obs with that name.

I think you want the 6-27903 that was from the Conventional Classics.  Which will only drive the price higher unless there is a reissue.  The 6-19018 is a Sager Place but the paint is not a good match.  The Sager Place pictured above is an 18" car that is the size of other Heavyweight produced in the late 1990's so be sure you get a proper model.  All those cars are nice I have many, way too many.  The 27903 and 19018 and the Williams are traditional size. Looking at the cataloge Lionel is making the set you purchased as traditional size, the 50th was closer to scale at 18".  The giveaway to the 18" verses the traditional is the 2 tool boxes on the 18" as pictured above.  Where the traditional had a braking device or compressor of sometype (I can't think if the name) on the bottom in a floating position.

 

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