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I'm wondering if others shared my observations regarding the security folks...
 
I've attended York on and off since 1989, and my impression is that the security people at this year's meet were among the worst.  I thought that bringing police dogs onto the premises was unnecessary at best,  and overbearing and intimidating at worst.  The conduct and appearance of many of the security people was a major step down from previous years - may of them were sloppily dressed and did not conduct themselves in a professional manner.
 
In addition, I personally witnessed a member being unnecessarily harassed by one of the rent-a-cops.  Here's what happened:  In the area between the orange and brown halls, a member in a scooter had a small item fall out of his basket, and he drove away without realizing it.  Another member walked over to pick it up so that he could try to get the attention of the person who dropped it.  A security guard saw the member (who was displaying a meet badge) and loudly and aggressively yelled at him - "step away from that!  Back off!  It doesn't belong to you!".  The member complied, but the security guard was addressing him as if he was a common criminal.  IMO, such treatment of a TCA member is uncalled for.
 
I shared my thoughts via email with meet chairman Mike Petronella (meetchair@easterntca.com).
 
Did anyone else have observations regarding the "security" folks?
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I just noticed a township? police vehicle roll through, the first time l have seen an actual police presence on the grounds in years of attending. I guessed it was due to the more "public" nature of the meet, and TCA had arranged it.  I hope that or other security measures l didn't notice didn't spook public attendance and interest.  I, for one, like an obvious but restrained security presence.

I wonder if the police presence had to do with the SOB dealer who left his dog in a sealed car on Thursday. The dog died on the spot. I saw plenty of animal wardens around on Friday near his booth in the orange hall. Word is he scurried out of the building when he heard they were there. 

I said they should lock him up in a hot car with the windows shut......

SJC posted:

I wonder if the police presence had to do with the SOB dealer who left his dog in a sealed car on Thursday. The dog died on the spot. I saw plenty of animal wardens around on Friday near his booth in the orange hall. Word is he scurried out of the building when he heard they were there. 

I said they should lock him up in a hot car with the windows shut......

I'd love to know which vendor.  I will make sure to never ever spend money in their booth. 

I saw the guy for was walking the hall on Friday and realized the guy was a dealer.  I do not know his vendor name, but he was in the area of the Orange hall between row H and L.  On Thursday, I gave them 3 bottles of water for the dog for they had him laying on the hot pavement and they finally moved him back into the car with A/C.  Fortunately the 2nd dog recovered at the scene but there were 2 dogs locked in the car.  I spoke with the K-9 policeman and glad to read that Friday they came back looking for him.

Guy was a complete idiot with no regard to the animal even after being busted for he laid him down on the hot pavement.  Unfortunately this guy will never pay the real price he should have paid for the actions he took.

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MartyE posted:
SJC posted:

I wonder if the police presence had to do with the SOB dealer who left his dog in a sealed car on Thursday. The dog died on the spot. I saw plenty of animal wardens around on Friday near his booth in the orange hall. Word is he scurried out of the building when he heard they were there. 

I said they should lock him up in a hot car with the windows shut......

I'd love to know which vendor.  I will make sure to never ever spend money in their booth. 

Ya; I would too!    Piece of crap!  

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David Case posted:

I saw the guy for was walking the hall on Friday and realized the guy was a dealer.  I do not know his vendor name, but he was in the area of the Orange hall between row H and L.  On Thursday, I gave them 3 bottles of water for the dog for they had him laying on the hot pavement and they finally moved him back into the car with A/C.  Fortunately the 2nd dog recovered at the seen but there were 2 dogs locked in the car.  I spoke with the K-9 policeman and glad to read that Friday they came back looking for him.

Guy was a complete idiot with no regard to the animal even after being busted for he laid him down on the hot pavement.  Unfortunately this guy will never pay the real price he should have paid for the actions he took.

Thank you for helping that poor dog by giving some water. 

This guy is a special kind of stupid and cruel.    I  just hope the police found and arrested him.    I must be extra naive because I just can't imagine someone being that cruel to animals.  Unfortunately he will not get the punishment he deserves.  

Sad to think he is associated with our great hobby in some way.

Ed

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I wouldn't take a security job for one simple reason: You have one boss ( who pays you ) who tells you one thing and a thousand other bosses ( who don't pay you ) screaming the exact opposite. I was in the Blue Hall and the poor guard WAS acting like a real anus but he was told  what was and wasn't allowed. He wasn't paid to think, analyze, critique or even have common sense. No disrespect but he was essentially a mindless automaton.

As far as the dog: String this person up in a blast furnace.

Ernie

Andy Hummell posted:

The security people I encountered all 3 days were all very friendly and professional.  I did notice the K9, but the dog may have been there for training purposes rather than intimidation purposes.  This meet would be an ideal place to get a dog accustomed to crowds.

Andy

That was my initial reaction, but I'm not afraid of dogs.  I only decided to complain after hearing concerns voiced by others.  Some people are really afraid of dogs, and I think they should have been sensitive to that.  Also, the dog was not wearing the "in training" vests that you often see.

Mallard4468 posted:

Also, the dog was not wearing the "in training" vests that you often see.

I don't know if law-enforcement K9's wear those vests at all.  I was under the impression those vests were for service dogs so that they wouldn't be refused entry into venues that prohibit pets.  It is just a possibility.  York would be a great place for that kind of training in that the participants aren't likely to be rowdy (like those at a concert or where alcohol is being served).

As to the unfortunate matter involving the dealer, I would also prefer to avoid him.  I hate to hear about pets who are abused.

Andy

I thought maybe my wife started this thread.

We had great difficulty with these people blocking the doors and parking areas for loading on Saturday. Their cars were parked so that you couldn't back in. They stood around blocking the pathways in and out of the building. When asked to move them, they refused, and called a TCA security person that told us all we care about is making money; that he gets no thanks for protecting our stuff; staying to 4, etc. If we persist, he would see to it that only one vehicle could unload at a time. 

Eventually, they were "off the clock" and left.

Want to steal stuff at York? Come to any door at 4:02pm Saturday. You won't need a badge. 

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