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I have previously posted that I was a bit disappointed with the sound of my Legacy N&W J and GS-2.  I turned the J's tender over this morning (in preparation for testing paint on the underside for a repaint) and found a paper label of some sort (photo below) on the bottom, partially covering both speakers.  I had missed this when I unpacked - no reason to turn it over since there are no switches/knobs, etc., under the tender, so I really had not checked carefully.  It came off pretty easily with only some minor tearing back under the truck, where I had to scrap it off by reaching underneath the truck with the edge of a plastic picnic knife. 

 

The sound is not much louder with it removing but much richer - really nice now.  The photo below shows about where it was - I put what was left of the label back about where it was, to take this photo. 

 

My GS-2 had a torn portion of a similar label tucked under its truck, obscuring not as much of the speakers area.  I scrapped it out too and its sound is superb, like all the other Legacy I have now.

 

Anyone know what these labels are?  They look something like bar codes but not exactly.

 

Edit: I will try again to post this picture.

Strange label

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They are bar codes and they don't belong there in the final assembled product.   I am guessing these are used for inventory control or routing parts during assembly.  I doubt that the party that placed them on the bottom of the tender frame even knows what that grille is for or why it's a bad idea to block it.

Well, they are removed and torn up - the one on the GS shredding in pieces as I scrapped it off that the J's partially torn at one end.  So whatever they might have been as to rare value is gone.  I'm pleased though - the locos certainly sound a lot better now, whatever the reason those lablels were or should have been there..

 

 

Lee, good eagle eye, thanks for theheads up. I had an older lionel Erie pacific that had some distortion in the sound, opened it up and found the speaker a had a wire passing through the exit cone and frame, it was acting like a reed on a wood instrument.

Some speakers tend to vibrate on the frame, so I added a gasket from the speaker to the frame, this has improved some of the older sound units emmensly.

I buy alot of older engines so I immediately open them up and verify / remove the old 9 volt battery.

 

 

Originally Posted by david1:

Don't you oil the wheels before running them? You should.

Not the J.  Normally, even though the stuff is supposed to be lubed as delivered, I do.  But . . . Since I was fairly certain I was going to repaint it I didn't want any oil or grease to perhaps get on any of the surfaces, and I was only going to run it long enough to make sure everything (sound, lights, forward & reverse) worked - maybe thirty minutes in all.

 

The GS-2, I did, but when it was turned over I missed the part of the label that was left on it - most had been torn off, but the rest wucked up under the truck, blocking the one speaker but completely out of sight unless (as this morning) I was looking for it after seeing it on the J.

Originally Posted by RickO:

I think they put those on  just the locos  Lee got, so he would have another "unique" topic to start.

I agree!  I've known for some time there are people in China who are out to get me and my trains!  The voices from my Legacy locos, tell me those labels are a special bar code from PLA Unit 61398 that tells the factory, "This one's for Lee, so load that special cyber attack version of Legacy."  Someday, when the war starts, all my trains are going to zoom off at top speed and crash right through the walls of my trainroom!

Strange indeed!  I've never seen a label such as that used on any of my locomotives. But the type of code used looks very similar to the codes that postal services use for routing mail. Have you checked with your supplier to see if they may have added them by any chance? Perhaps they were used to reserve the locomotives for you?

 

In case you'd like to try and decode it, here is a link to the USPS specification document.    https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelli...h_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf

Last edited by N.Q.D.Y.
Originally Posted by Pennvalley RR:

The labels were installed to comply with new federal regulations that require noise reduction on all audio systems.

I wonder if it is possible to defeat the controlling of the sound level. I noticed on my PRR Legacy U28c that the sound levels are rather low. I just got it back from Lionel service because on of the number boards did not light up.

 

I was going to fix it myself, because I did not think the warranty covered lighting, but could not figure out how to take the shell off. There apparently are some hidden screws. I called Lionel Customer Service to ask them how to take the shell off and I was told that this would void my warranty so they issued an RA and told me to send it to Ohio to be repaired.

 

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