Stumped my TUI not find me engine.

You said the engine reset worked. Did you hear the 2 horn blasts after?

Have you tried the recover engine function?

Does it play full shut down sounds if you kill the power to it?

You may have to take the engine to a repair shop for them to see if there's an address attached to the board's memory. Possibly downloading the soundfile into the engine may help reset it further if you can. Something's scrambled. Either the remote (for that engine address) or the board.

No offense meant, but why reset a good running engine? Is there some other reason for you doing it? Was there an issue not mentioned above?

 Make sure nothing else is connected to the TIU when you try to add it or recover it. Only this engine should be getting power!

Disconnect the layout.

Is this TIU set as #1?

Where's Bruce? He said he would handle these issues.

1.) People do silly things Im not much different. No offense taken.

2.) Don't feel like taking time to update TUI thus I don't have recover engine function. Note: maybe I will have to update now.

3.) Yes I got the short 2 blasts on the reset.

4. Acts normal in conventional including shutdown.

5. Test track is dedicate short track for one train engine.

Any other ideas, thank for the new info to me on the engine recover / need to update.

Just hasn't been the best past two weeks. Three PS 3 locomotives down waiting for new drawbars. I guess over time they just don't stay attached or maybe I'm to hard on disconnecting them.

I had a problem with a diesel. Would only run in one direction. Last night I got around to taking the shell off. I had notice sparks on the one truck when it would stop. Simple fix a screw was loose on a screw attached to the truck. I guess it was enough to disrupt power. It's works great now. However I lost three of my ditch lights that flash with the horn. Must be the spring type of connections since they are not hardwired. For now the train works great I can live without the flashing lights.

If there are no other solutions for getting the other engine back to running with my dcs I guess I will run it conventional until I decide to update. Not in a big hurry to do that. Now for the record I have updated it once but that was over 8 or 10 years ago.

[       2.) Don't feel like taking time to update TUI thus I don't have recover engine function. Note: maybe I will have to update now.    ]

What version of DCS do you have?   Recover Engine came with 4.00

Funny, but I recently had a similar experience.  I reset the engine and deleted it from both my handheld and ipad because I wanted to have a similar configuration on both.  But then I couldn’t add the engine back as it couldn’t be found.  After trying several things, I shutdown fixed 2 and variable 1 & 2 which were also set to fixed so only fixed 1 was powered.   I then removed all other engines and boom, it was found on the first try.  Not sure why, but I wasn’t going to argue with success. Not sure this is of any help to you as you have a different setup, but who knows?

Bob Golfs posted:

Funny, but I recently had a similar experience.  I reset the engine and deleted it from both my handheld and ipad because I wanted to have a similar configuration on both.  But then I couldn’t add the engine back as it couldn’t be found.  After trying several things, I shutdown fixed 2 and variable 1 & 2 which were also set to fixed so only fixed 1 was powered.   I then removed all other engines and boom, it was found on the first try.  Not sure why, but I wasn’t going to argue with success. Not sure this is of any help to you as you have a different setup, but who knows?

4)  It has to have the power cut to test the caps for shutdown sounds.

5) as long as it's the only thing connected and powered to the TIU (TIU#1?)

Test signal strength on your test track. I read above that it works. Some engines find the weakness more than others. Have you tried adding a light bulb to the circuit?

I do have 4.0 as the latest up date. But I can't find the recover engine function. I go to systems. Then engine setup.  Option then are add engine, edit engine and delete engine. I go to add engine. I have two choices, add MTH engine and add TMCC engine. I choose MTH and it reads non engine to add.

Am I looking at the wrong place to find engine recover?

Btw the read button will not find engine either.

1.   system

2.   engine setup

3. recover engine

Ok I checked and my update was Version 4.0

The only thing I have in engine set up is

1. Add Engine

2. Edit Engine

3. Delete Engine

 I do not have recover engine

One bug that caused the DCS version to be updated in version 4.0, was adding engines!

Version 4.10 Fixes

Lol everything I read does say 4.00 had this function. Read through that book I bought from Barry but to be honest every problem I ever had was not solved by any of the info, or I could just be bad at following directions as written.

Version 4.00 New Features

Yeah I read that too. But I was assuming that 4.00 would have engine recover listed, maybe not. I guess I should give everything an update

RENOVO PRR 

You have to scroll with the thumbwheel to get to the recover engine  after delete engine.

That may be the problem. I can scroll the little arrow down but still only three topics. No matter how much I scroll there is nothing below Delete Engine

Are you sure that both the remote & TIU have version 4.00 ? Best to just do the upgrades on them as the fours had problems and there were many upgades. One only lasted one day. I had loaded it the day it came out and the next day it was replaced with another.  I think it was 4.01a if I remember.

IS your set up just one TIU?  Is the address of TIU 1 (Led blinks once before going solid)?  Use Fixed 1 only as mentioned on your track and try it.  If fails, power TIU but use fix 2.  Does that work?

You can have a TIU problem where once deleted it can't communicate well with engine.  Have you deleted any other engines and re-added them? 

Can you do a track signal test with one of your engines that is responding?  Are you sure the engine deleted from the remote?  G

I just have one TIU.

It blinks once.

Fixed one will not add.

Tried fix 2 and the engine came alive in neutral, however I could not add or move.

Funny fix 2 still had power when I disconnect power to fix 1. I thought you had to have power through fix 1 for tiu to work.

I checked var 2 has dsc and it does.

Track is just a test track, short piece just longer than engine and has good signal.

Well at least I had somewhat of a progress I guess as the engine at least comes on in neutral in fix 2. But can not add

Correct where it says var2 I should have said fix2

You must have power on FIXED #1 or the aux power jack for the TIU to be active.  If you just connect power to FIXED #2, it just passes the power through, but the TIU electronics are not powered.

I knew you had to have power to fixed 1 or aux. However I never knew the other channels would pass power through.

For the record fixed one has power with 180 power brick and fixed two is powered by MTH 100 brick.

I checked my remote and the engine is not listed. Would it hurt to delete every engine in the remote then try to add?

Not frustrated just a pain when I can figure it out.

Maybe I will just go out and buy a new too. The local shop has a new one in stock. Will solve the update. I'm just tired of trying to figure this one out. They have a remote too. So i would have the WiFi and a new remote.

Cheaper than all the time I have invested trying to figure this out.

Meant to say can't figure it out. Haven't figured out how to edit post, maybe you cant

Ok this is what I did. I deleted all engines on remote. Then I reset the remote clearing everything out. I still could not add the locomotive. However I could add a different engine. So it appears this is the only engine I can not add. What's my next step.

Starting to sound like that particular locomotive has a problem, so I guess you get it fixed.

Ok I guess it's a good time to stop and just have the everything updated and the engine looked at. No big deal. It is what it is.

Renovo PRR posted:

I checked my remote and the engine is not listed. Would it hurt to delete every engine in the remote then try to add?

Not frustrated just a pain when I can figure it out.

Maybe I will just go out and buy a new too. The local shop has a new one in stock. Will solve the update. I'm just tired of trying to figure this one out. They have a remote too. So i would have the WiFi and a new remote.

Cheaper than all the time I have invested trying to figure this out.

FYI fixed one has to be powered or the aux power on the TIU for the other channels to have signal. It sounds like you're powering the TIU with fixed #1 in, so that has to be on to test or use the other channels.

 Also, just because they have a newer TIU, does not mean it's up to date on the latest software. The seller should confirm it is if you ask them to. DCS 6.1.

Update so you know where I'm at on this issue. Lol I gave up. The TIU and remote is boxed along with the offending locomotive. I have 45 min trip to a LHS, Lens Trains who is a certified MTH service shop. They will update my TIU and solve the problem with adding the locomotive. I just don't have the time down side of being so far from retirement.

I just wanted to give the update so people don't have to keep offering solutions. 

I really appreciate every one who took the time to try and help me find a solution. But at $250 an hour I have to get back to work. Lol that is how much i think my time is worth not what i actualy get. Hey you have to have some fun when things are not going your way.

I thought I would at least end this thread with the final outcome.

First a big thank you to Lens Trains who turned this around over the Thanksgiving holiday week. 

1.) TIU - fully updated to 6.1  note as to why I didn't update. Well first I don't have a computer. Yep been using a tablet for several years. Never checked to see if it would work and for $30 it was easy for me. 

2.) My PS 3 engine - well not so lucky as the board is bad and will not let the train add to the remote. I made the decision not to get it updated. The cost was not worth it for a Rail King locomotive.

I'm not upset about it. Though disappointed as I have only about an hour run time on it. I think it still runs conventionally, if not I will update.

For the life of me I can not figure out what damaged the board. No shorts, no overfilling of smoke fluid it was running fine then just acted a little strange. In any event things happen and life goes on.

Len did tell me if I wanted a new board they were on backorder from MTH.