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Hudson's Department Store, Like Macy's in New York, and Marshall Field's in Chicago were the places to go for Lionel, American Flyer, and all things model trains in the postwar era.  The display layouts at Hudson's in downtown Detroit were dream factories like none other for the young baby boomers who could only pine for having such a layout of their own.  I remember taking the trolley with my mother to the downtown Hudson's store at Christmas  to "virtually shop" for my dream Lionel locomotives, freight cars, and operating accessories.  And, of course, there followed the exciting visit to see Santa Claus at the very same Hudson's, to confess to him about all of the Lionel items that I now hoped he would bring at Christmas: the GG-I locomotive, the pickle car, the icing station, and the operating Bosco car, etc.

These cherished memories were made possible by the proprietor of the department store,  Joseph L. Hudson.  But little did I know until recently, that the Hudson Motor Car was a product of that same Joseph L. Hudson, with the Hudson Motor Car Company being formed by Hudson and a group of investors  in 1909.  (Interestingly, on September 16, 1908, Buick Motor Company head Billy  Durant  incorporated General Motors.)  Additionally, I always thought that the "modern car" was created by Ford Motor Company, with the introduction of the 1949 Ford.  Compare the '49 Ford to the '49 GM Chevy, Pontiac, and Cadillac.  The '49 Ford is much longer and much lower, and, I thought that this sales leader was the precursor  of the modern vehicle.  The driver and the passengers no longer sat fully upright, and now had their legs more fully extended.    But, I was wrong.  It was actually the 1948 Hudson Motor Car Co., that introduced the modern car.  As noted in Wikipedia: 

"In 1948, the company launched their "step-down" bodies, which lasted through the 1954 model year. The term step-down referred to Hudson's placement of the passenger compartment down inside the perimeter of the frame; riders stepped down into a floor that was surrounded by the perimeter of the car's frame. The result was not only a safer car, and greater passenger comfort as well, but, through a lower center of gravity, good-handling car. In time almost all U.S. automakers would embrace it as a means of building bodies. Automotive author Richard Langworthdescribed the step-down models as the greatest autos of the era in articles for Consumer Guide and Collectible Automobile."

Also in 1948, the steam to diesel transition was in full swing, with EMD's innovative locomotive design taking the railroad industry by storm.  Similarly, in the automotive world, the innovative "step-down" design of the 1948 Hudson was taking the automotive industry by storm.  GM was obviously caught napping -- or, was stubbornly resistant to the new design paradigm.  Compare the 1949 - 1952 Chevy, Pontiac, and Cadillac to the 1948 Hudson, or, even the 1949 Ford.

So, if you are modeling the steam to diesel transition era, you may wish to add one or more 1948 era Hudsons, 1949 Fords, 1949 Plymouths  1949 Chevys, 1949 Cadillacs, etc., to your layout.  Perhaps you could put a Hudson, a Ford, a Chevy, and a Plymouth on your Postwar Lionel auto loader, or, flat cars. 

Alternatively, if you or your family enjoy more playful items on your layout, Disney has fully embraced the innovative design of the "modern" Hudson in their hit movie, "Cars", and it's sequels.  A stylized Hudson auto is a main character in the movie "Cars" - "Doc"!

Change was obviously in the air in the late 1940's and the 1950's in the railroad industry, and, in the automotive industry.  Your layout can either prototypically, or, playfully, re-create that transition with your choice of motive power, consist and vehicles.

My O gauge layout features a 1949 Ford, a 1950 Plymouth, and a 1950 Chevy.  I plan to add a few of the stylized Disney Hudson vehicles to the children's layout, since the boys are big fans of Disney's "Cars", and have watched the movie on DVD repeatedly.  

Do you have any of the 1948 to 1953 "transition" era vehicles on your layout? 

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A bit pricey, but here is a link to a die cast model of a 1948 Hudson:

       http://www.eautomobilia.com/pr...1948-NEO-143-Diecast

Here's a photo of a 1949 die cast Ford Convertible:

       http://passiondiecast.com/en/m...ord-convertible.html

Contrast this to a 1951 Chevy with the old style design:

       http://www.nicecardiecast.com/...1952-convertible.cfm

Here's a 1950 Cadillac Convertible:

       http://www.diecastmodelswholes...r-by-road-signature/

Here's a picture of a 1950 Plymouth the article that is titled: "Solid but outdated: Plymouth 1950 to 1954."       

       http://www.allpar.com/old/buyers-guide/ply-1950s.html

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"But, I was wrong.  It was actually the 1948 Hudson Motor Car Co., that introduced the modern car."

Not sure about that comment... The Packard Motor Car company was rivaled to be the first true American Modern Car...

 

Packard had quite a few modern appliances that introduced on their vehicles...

Like Air Conditioning, The Modern Steering Wheel,  and the almighty 12 cylinder engine...

Well I am biased, they were a tank in the late 40's  but talk about luxury!

My favorite was this one:  The 48 Super 8 Convertible!

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Gotta love those original "High End" Packards.  The Packard was the pinnacle of luxury,  until the line was cheapened by consolidations with competitors from the low price market.

My maternal uncle spent his life working at Packard  - Zio Joe, or, Uncle Joe.  He convinced my father to buy a dark blue lower end Packard in the 50's, but, by then the low end line had been compromised by cheapening, much like many Lionel products in the 1960's.

Thanks for the AWESOME pic!!!

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Since this layout is dated Sept. 30, 1940, only a 1937 Hudson Terraplane is parked on the street.  I am a fan of "orphan" cars, the dozens of makes made in America 1925-1935, so forthcoming Graham's and as many as they produce of Nash's, Lafayettes, weWillys, etc. will be found here. There is a 1930 Hudson roadster available from Brooklin, but not likely to be found in small ranch and mining towns. My long since retired dentist drove a Hudson stepdown convertible in college, and was trying to get one professionally restored, last l heard.

RoyBoy posted:

Studebaker and Kaiser/Frasier introduced new car designs for the 1947 model year. "First by far with a post war car" was Studebaker's advertising motto.

Interestingly, President Lincoln drove a Studebaker!!!  

Studebaker was a HUGE manufacturer/fabricator of carriages, even in the 1800's.  Billy Durant, the creator of General Motors, also transitioned from the carriage business -- makes sense; horse-drawn carriages to horseless carriages.

The nascent auto industry was "stuck" in the mode of using tremendous amounts of wood in the manufacturing of the early automobiles.  Henry Ford, an early and ardent recycler, was distressed by the enormous amount of wood  waste product from his manufacturing facilities.  Kingsford Charcoal was the result.  

In a similar vein, General Motors needed more expertise in metal working to further develop the automobile, and hired an expert from the locomotive business to accomplish this goal - Walter P. Chrysler!!  

As stated at Britannica.com:

"Chrysler did not enter the automobile business until he was 36 years old, when he met Charles Nash, president of General Motors (GM). At the time, Chrysler was earning $12,000 a year at the American Locomotive Company, but Nash persuaded him to join GM as the manager of the Buick plant in Flint, Mich., for only half that amount. In the years to come, Chrysler would completely revolutionize Buick’s manufacturing system, introducing assembly-line processes pioneered by Henry Ford and more than tripling production."

Chrysler left ALCO to join GM. Chrysler, who reached the level of Vice President at GM, later became fed up with Billy Durant at GM.  Chrysler corporation was the result.

 

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People did buy and drive Studebakers and Kaisers. I remember through the 40's and 50's there were many Studebakers on the road, and l liked the Lark. My grandfather's best buddy from the L&N shops showed up in a Kaiser at the farm gate, and my grandfather, a "Chevie Man" from the 1920's, was not impressed. I can't remember if it had painted vs. chrome bumpers, but it was a special, trimless bargain model. My grandmother's brother was a telegrapher in Mich. who drove Hudsons and swore by them until he got one of the last ones with the unperfected Packard V-8.

J Daddy posted:

"Chrysler left ALCO to join GM."

Looking back at this comment today, it just sounds so wrong.

J Daddy, you're right, His move to GM was probably a big loss for ALCO.

But, Walter P. Chrysler left ALCO to join GM for only half of the salary.  Chrysler thought the future was in the nascent automobile industry, and jumped at the chance to join GM and help revolutionize the auto industry with his considerable skills at metal fabricating.   Chrysler did well: he built a skyscraper in New York with his name on it, The Chrysler Building!

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I rode from Los Angles to WV twice in the back of a Studebaker Lark Wagon. It replaced a 57 Rambler of Dad's. So I too have a spot for orphan cars....to this day. 

JAVELINR1

Having been a mechanic and working on cars from 1937 to present I think many orphan cars were better than the mainstream cars. They were run by geniuses that could not tie their shoes.  Kinda like Beta was much better than VHS but who won?? 

Checking a 1937 Hudson after engine rebuild.....one fantastic engineered car.

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Having been a mechanic and working on cars from 1937 to present I think many orphan cars were better than the mainstream cars. They were run by geniuses that could not tie their shoes...  

Checking a 1937 Hudson after engine rebuild.....one fantastic engineered car.

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Thanks for the great pics!  Gorgeous cars!   Do you have some vintage models on your layout? BTW, what is an "orphan car"?  Sounds like something I wanted to do when my '69 Mach I was giving me trouble: Create an Orphan car...

clorado hirailer posted:

Please note: Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Plymouth, and Mercury are now orphan cars. I see them still on the street.

Agreed....orphan does not mean old!!!! My buddy with the world class Hudson's does not own a trailer........when they leave the house it's under their own power......so you can see orphans of any age on the street. 

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AMCDave posted:
clorado hirailer posted:

Please note: Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Plymouth, and Mercury are now orphan cars. I see them still on the street.

Agreed....orphan does not mean old!!!! My buddy with the world class Hudson's does not own a trailer........when they leave the house it's under their own power......so you can see orphans of any age on the street. 

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AMCDave posted:

Orphan car is one manufactured by a company no longer with us!!! 

I have a bunch of cars ready for my cities....but they are still in planning stage....sorry for OT stuff! 

Dave,

I couldn't enjoy your posts, or the other posts on this thread any more, and they aren't off topic at all.  In this regard, George Brown's Product reviews in OGR are among my favorite articles, both for the reviews, and, for the detailed "Real Trains" analysis that precede's each specific product review.  This topic is about "Real Cars", their parentage, history, evolution etc., and, how the development of these automobiles parallels certain developments in railroading.  It's also about sharing information, and enjoying the fellowship of other Forum members like you.  Finally, I'm not "possessive" of any thread that I might start, and just enjoy the cordial and informative discussion.  And, I thoroughly enjoy your auto  history and pictures.  I'd love to have 1/48 models of them on my layout.  Here in the Detroit  area, the vintage cars on my layout spark as much discussion among baby boomers as the trains and their magnificent sound systems.  The more that I learn about those cars, and their histories, the more fun it is to run the layout and talk with my contemporary visitors.

More pix please!! !

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colorado hirailer posted:

Please note: Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn, Plymouth, and Mercury are now orphan cars. I see them still on the street.

Would a Packard that was really a rebadged Studebaker be considered an orphan car?  

The following would be a fun car in 1/48 scale for  a transition era layout -- or, just as a conversation piece on the layout  - Sort of makes the 1958 Edsel look attractive by comparison!  

1957

fifties cars

1957 Studebaker-Packard Clipper

Packard’s were known on the street as Packardbaker’s
what they were was a re-designed Studebaker with a combination of components
only two models are offered now, the Clipper and a Country Sedan station wagon
plans to produce a new “true” Packard never materialized and the revered name lost it’s luster

Cost: $3,212.00

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