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I am working on my design for new o scale layout. I am new to o scale from ho and n scales. I am designing the layout to be ran on dc and to use LC+ engines (specifically the LC+ Mikado and Camelback for now). I have 9 x 15.5 for the layout attached is picture of what I have so far, it is based off ideas of what I have seen on this forum and youtube. 

I will be using gargraves flex for the layout, I am also looking at using gargraves switches as the ross switches are a little more than I want to spend.
I dont have an issue with wiring each switch and I have a lot of tortoise switch machines I need to use to power them. 

I have seen a lot of bad on the forum on gargraves switches especially the O 42's. So far my layout has 4 of the 100's 3 O72's and 1 O54. 
I do not plan on using any smaller switches than the O 54's.  All switches are on level track with at least a few inches level before and after. 

I would like to know if  the LC+ steam engines have issues with the switches?

Please offer any suggestions on the layout as I am new to O scale 
My list of what I wanted:
2 loops 
2 reverse loops 
elevated track crossing main layout 


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I only have gargraves track & switches

If you have steam engines you may want to slow down where switches are, sorta depends on the particular engine.  I have a scale 4444 that cant take a 100 switch, my Lionchiefhave no problems. I even have a few 4 & 6 wheel truck dieselsthat dont like switches.

I always have a no switch loop for these engines.

On the inner oval, you need to flip your reverse loop around so a train may reverse track direction in the forward direction instead of having to back through the reverse loop first (after using the elevated out-and-back reverse loop on the left side of the plan).

Unless, of course, that's the way you intend it to be? 

Other than that, doesn't look too bad to me. 

I have a mix of GG and Ross on the layout, never had a problem with the GG switches.  (0-42 and100's)  Some locomotives tend to bang through the frogs on the 0-42 GG switches once throwing a locomotive off the table while proceeding straight through, but for the most part I have no complaints.  IMO the Ross switches provide smoother operation and they seem to be indestructible but you do have a choice, they look better and seem to perform better, for that you have to pay.  Worth the cost I think.

Hello everyone just an update here. I have been able to claim a little more room for the layout. I have 13 feet x 16 feet for the layout now and have the bench work up. Here is  a plan I have been working on, it is with GG flex and switches but I think with little change it can be modified to Ross switches. The grade to the upper reverse loop is 2.8% @ 6 inches.  All turnouts are level and have at least 6 inches of level track in and out.  Please offer any suggestions or ideas for using this space. 

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