Today Fellow OGR Forumite RANDYT and I got together to run the MTH UP 4141 in honor of our late President. We lost a true Statesman, Soldier, CIA director, Senator, President and family patriarch.
I just started using ANIMOTICA video editor and was able to combine video clips and insert pictures. The link to the video on you tube is listed below.
Please feel free to share any photos or videos you have of UP4141
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I would love to get ahold of this locomotive! also wouldnt mind having the "funeral" car to go with it and place it on a shelf! Watching the ceremony today has caused a sense of great pride being in the military watching the ceremonies and what not, just a reminder of the dedication to our President, both past and present.
I'm sure it in the works at MTH or Lionel as a funeral train.. Put me on the list.
turbine posted:I'm sure it in the works at MTH or Lionel as a funeral train.. Put me on the list.
I SECOND THAT!!!!!
Me on the list as well.
I have had the engine for a long time as well. Been hunting the matching caboose many years.lol
Never obtained one of them yet. But I don't giver up easy
Larry
PS Thanks for the post Steve & Randy
I cannot recall any talk of MTH Premier UP #4141 until now.
I have the Lionel version and I love it. I also have the matching caboose
Nice.
Been watching the train heading north all afternoon. Very cool.
Coverage of the real train was fantastic......kinda makes you want a #4141
AMCDave posted:Coverage of the real train was fantastic......kinda makes you want a #4141
And the entire funeral train...
Lionel and MTH should be listening!
When is the last time we saw a train take center stage in our media?
TM Terry posted:When is the last time we saw a train take center stage in our media?
Other than some horrible wreck......
A very NICE train for a SAD occasion!
Was that Premier MTH 4141 a Proto 1 or Proto 2?
Tinplate Art posted:Was that Premier MTH 4141 a Proto 1 or Proto 2?
The first issue was with Proto-2 identifiable by a smaller American Flag on the tail and was available in hi-rail only. The later one was Proto-3 and also available with scale wheels and fixed pilots and the flag was the correct size. I bought the re-release unit with scale wheels and sold my original unit to a friend and it's still running strong. I have the Lionel business train set minus the diner and I plan to switch them over to Kadees for use with my heritage units and the 4014 Big Boy. UP4141 was also produced by Lionel in Legacy (hi-rail only) and by OMI in 2-rail only.
UP4141 did go out into UP's system and supposedly visited all states served by the UP. A friend of mine in northern California caught some photos of it, which I have somewhere. It was kept under guard wherever it "slept" if it was out in the open. According to the news stories, it has spent the last several years at a UP facility in Arkansas stored indoors until now. There's a rumor circulating that the unit is going to be retired minus it's running gear to the Bush library. I can't really see them re-painting it.
Here's the first unit with a pair of SD90's in the consist:
Here's the newer unit in the same area on the club layout (notice the larger flag):
If I could find one, Lionel, preferably, might be the only new loco I could buy without getting grief from my better half (a devout Bush 41 fan)
Tinplate Art posted:Lionel and MTH should be listening!
Good luck with that one Art.... BTW, I hope you are well.. Neel
The Bush engine can be found in MTH catalogues...2009, vol 2, pg 31, Railking; 2014, vol 2, pg 83, Premier.
I live in Houston. Local coverage was absolutely outstanding...they provided continuous coverage of the entire train trip (crowds at every small town and crossing). Front cab camera showed UP's pristine right-of-way!
Once the train arrived in College Station (TX), coverage was turned over to the national networks which covered less of the train and more personnel interviews.
Will have to wait and see who does a reissue first: MTH or Lionel. I'll be in line for one from either manufacturer if/when it materializes.
Frank E. Crawford posted:The Bush engine can be found in MTH catalogues...2009, vol 2, pg 31, Railking; 2014, vol 2, pg 83, Premier.
It was also offered in MTH’s 2007 Vol.2 catalog, a Premier model 20-2828-1.
Serveral years ago a person had one for sale on another O gauge forum, but I thought about buying it but didn’t. Now, I wish I had.
Larry
TM Terry posted:When is the last time we saw a train take center stage in our media?
Last I recall was 50 years ago, RFK's in 1968. Coverage was very similar to Bush 41's, despite not having 24 x 7 opinion ... er, I mean news broadcasts. Don't remember Ike's in 1969; would have been at school.
Rockyroad posted:I live in Houston. Local coverage was absolutely outstanding...they provided continuous coverage of the entire train trip (crowds at every small town and crossing). Front cab camera showed UP's pristine right-of-way!
Once the train arrived in College Station (TX), coverage was turned over to the national networks which covered less of the train and more personnel interviews.
Does that mean you didn't have to mute the sound while CNN and Fox News broadcasters and their guests rattled on with conflicting misinformation about the train for the duration of the trip. Suppose at least broadcasting much of the staging, departure, trip and arrival was laudable.
What, me worry?
Hey Alfred...
I must admit one of our local TV anchors made the comment he had made a trip to LA a number of years ago on a UP train and they had to proceed slowly because of "bad" track conditions.
Hearing that comment I wanted to shout, "Are you blind"? I wish my layout right-of-way looked as good as the UP's we were viewing!
I watched the coverage by KHOU Channel 11 over the internet. They were talking to by standers along the track at different places. I wish Channel 11 would release their show on DVD.
Alfred E Neuman posted:Does that mean you didn't have to mute the sound while CNN and Fox News broadcasters and their guests rattled on with conflicting misinformation about the train for the duration of the trip. Suppose at least broadcasting much of the staging, departure, trip and arrival was laudable.
What, me worry?
Yes that F news network had some misinformation. Loco called a 'car'. Loco just made for this train. Never used until today etc etc.
I ignored all the info good and bad and enjoyed the ride from start to finish.....even had my DVR record it in case I want to ride again. It was great coverage. I don't do much modern.....but if they make it....
I believe Lionel would have a winning set on their hands if they produced a Bush 41 funeral train complete with “glass” doors so you could peer in and see the coffin. Similar to the Lincoln funeral train. I know I would be up for one.
Someone had posted the actual cars that was in the funeral train. I can't find the post now. Any help please. Dave
By the time they could design, manufacture, ship and deliver a set like this, the nostalgia would be gone....especially at the price they would charge.
BTW...I have both the Lionel 4141 engine and the matching caboose MIB. I ordered it when it was first introduced. At the time, I wasn't sure why I bought it. But now I know.
bisel posted:Someone had posted the actual cars that was in the funeral train. I can't find the post now. Any help please. Dave
Here it is: https://www.up.com/cs/groups/p...41_train_consist.pdf
Thanks John
If somebody has all the matching UNION PACIFIC passenger cars and locomotives that have been produced, then they could record a video of that train and post it here or on another site and link it here.
Andrew
bisel posted:Someone had posted the actual cars that was in the funeral train. I can't find the post now. Any help please. Dave
Dave,
I posted in another topic. This is the actual order in the consist.
UP 4141 EMD SD70ACe
UP 9096 EMD SD70AH
1) UPP 2066
2) UPP 8008 City of Portland
3) UPP 9009 City of San Francisco
4) UPP 5769 Council Bluffs
5) UPP 101 Lone Star
6) UPP 9004 Harriman
7) UPP 302 Overland
8) UPP 1610 Portola
9) UPP 5011 City of Denver
10) UPP 9005 Walter Dean
11) UPP 119 Kenefick
Hope this helps!
Wendell
FYI,
Sidetrack Hobbies is showing a George Bush 4141 Railking Imperial in stock currently, if anyone is interested in it.
Was the nostalgia for the Lincoln funeral train gone? No, I don’t think so. All of these items have been produced, put it together in a funeral train and you have a winner.
Lincoln had a bit different standing in the history books. Combine the Civil War, Emancipation Proclamation, Thirteenth Amendment and his Assassination and you have some history to talk about. While HW did some good things, it is difficult to compare their accomplishments.
Additionally, I believe that Lincoln was the first to have a funeral train....which certainly adds to the desirability of a set like this.
While only a few of us old train guys actually remember the Lincoln Presidency 
, I think it could be argued that Lincoln's time in office was much more significant to the history of the United States than HW's time. Therefore, certainly a Lincoln Funeral Train would hold more significance than an HW Funeral Train.
Hopefully, someone will produce a Warren Harding funeral train as well!
I see Athearn announced a HO #4141 new run......who's first in O???
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