What about the other UP Donations? The Centennial 6936 and the 2-10-2 UP 5511

Don't forget Iowa Interstate's QJ  #6988  a 2-10-2 which I rode in the cab last August at 45mph!

@cbojanower posted:

As much as I love the Challenger, what about the other donations?  Curious what the chances are of them realistically running again.  I would like to see them both. The Centennial was operable last I heard, not sure when it last run though.

But the 2-10-2, I am excited about that one.  But how bad of shape is it in and how much of a problem will a non-articulated,  5 driver engine be on today's curves

From what I've read the 5511 is in decent cosmetic shape but bad mechanical shape.  One of the issues for operation is speed and it may not be capable of performing well at passenger train speeds.

I haven't been able to locate 5511's speed except for a mention of 40mph tops...

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

From what I've read the 5511 is in decent cosmetic shape but bad mechanical shape.  One of the issues for operation is speed and it may not be capable of performing well at passenger train speeds.

I haven't been able to locate 5511's speed except for a mention of 40mph tops...

With only 63 inch diameter drivers, a max speed of 40 MPH sounds about right.

Rusty

@Hot Water posted:

With only 63 inch diameter drivers, a max speed of 40 MPH sounds about right.

And I'd bet at 40 mph it would be a pretty rough ride.

Off topic:  When 5632 double headed with 6315 (2-10-4) and both eccentric rods broke on 6315, could excessive speed have been a probable cause?   It's one of the things bugging me in the back of my mind for decades.

Rusty

@Rusty Traque posted:

And I'd bet at 40 mph it would be a pretty rough ride.

Off topic:  When 5632 double headed with 6315 (2-10-4) and both eccentric rods broke on 6315, could excessive speed have been a probable cause? 

Absolutely yes. The CB&Q 5632 was "pushing" the 6315 way too fast, on that excursion. They 6315 was removed from the doubleheader at Galesburg, and eventually sent to scrap.

It's one of the things bugging me in the back of my mind for decades.

Rusty

Believe excessive speed prior to the eccentric rods breaking was the difficulty encountered by #6315. The Burlington 2-10-4's were rebuilt in the mid-1930's for high speed service on the Chicago-Denver main line. Top speed was determined to be 50-55 mph.  The 6315 was being pushed by 5632, and an exuberant engineer, to 60 mph, which exceeded the machinery's capability. I was a youthful observer (age 14) of these events, as I rode this fan trip.

It should be noted that 6315 was a very  able locomotive. 10 months prior to this trip it was hauling 8000 ton coal trains between Herrin Jct and Centralia, IL (Sept-Dec 1958).

Don't know 2-10-2 #5511's machinery factor, but rode behind Burlington's fantrip favorite, O1a 2-8-2 #4960, at 60 mph. She has 64" drivers. She was never rebuilt for "high speed" service !

Doesn’t the DD40X 6936 donation seem odd? It’s SO Union Pacific! It still runs, doesn’t it? Aren’t the three E’s all down needing wheels? Why did they keep the CNW F7 over the DD40X?

@Sam Jumper posted:

Doesn’t the DD40X 6936 donation seem odd? It’s SO Union Pacific! It still runs, doesn’t it? Aren’t the three E’s all down needing wheels? Why did they keep the CNW F7 over the DD40X?

May not be the end of donations. Could just be the first announcement with others in the works.

@Sam Jumper posted:

Doesn’t the DD40X 6936 donation seem odd? It’s SO Union Pacific! It still runs, doesn’t it?

It hasn't been run since 2016.

I thought I recall Hotwater mentioning that it needed something that couldn't be replaced.

I could be mistaken. I'm sure Hotwater will chime in on this.

Will 949, 951 and 963B be donated as well?

@Sam Jumper posted:

Doesn’t the DD40X 6936 donation seem odd? It’s SO Union Pacific! It still runs, doesn’t it? Aren’t the three E’s all down needing wheels? Why did they keep the CNW F7 over the DD40X?

6936 was probably donated due to the cost of installing PTC on it, along with any other ongoing maintenance issues. Plus the E's are basically just E shells with all "new" guts aren't they? So the cost of eventually having new wheels stamped probably isn't seen as that big of deal when compared to what was spent already.

@hullmat991 posted:

6936 was probably donated due to the cost of installing PTC on it, along with any other ongoing maintenance issues. Plus the E's are basically just E shells with all "new" guts aren't they? So the cost of eventually having new wheels stamped probably isn't seen as that big of deal when compared to what was spent already.

Sure...  They can just crank out wheels like Keebler makes cookies... (First 5 minutes of the video.)

Rusty