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A special, serial numbered, coupon good for 50% off any one item of your choice.
A special, serial numbered, coupon good for 50% off any one item of your choice.
Lionel will be handing those coupons out in spades... only after first doubling the price of everything!
David
I honestly hope there is nothing I want in this catalog.
A FT LION CHIEF PLUS in NYC colors or a GP 7/9 Lion CHIEF plus in NYC colors .
HOW ABOUT QUALITY PRODUCTS PERIOD.
I still have not heard from them about replacing my damaged TS OBSERVATION CAR.
GG1GUYY
PRR T1 #6111,completely streamlined. I think that is the correct number.
Norm
A GP30 Lionchief plus Union Pacific please.
More Lion Chief Plus choices! F3's would be nice.
Realistically - More scale freight with Kadee mounting pads that are easily converted to 2-Rail.
Wishful thinking - 2 rail convertible motive power.
I honestly hope there is nothing I want in this catalog.
I agree, I need a break.
I would like to see some more wood chip hoppers and the scale 86' box cars done with two sets of doors on each side.................Paul
I predict that it will be an interesting catalog. 2014 was a blockbuster year for Lionel, so it seems logical to me that there will be items of significant interest.
We don't have long to wait.
It would be great if they put more actual railroad paint schemes on the plastic body Standard O Scale freight cars introduced between 1985-1999, or sell undecorated bodies.
The Standard O Scale plastic body freight cars should all have roller bearing trucks with the swinging couplers mounted on them when they are made in the factory.
Andrew
I honestly hope there is nothing I want in this catalog.
I will likely be Lionel's worst prospective buyer in 2016. Why? Because I'm "spent out" with items that caught my eye in 2014 and 2015... and I didn't even buy the VL Big Boy!!! BTW, not all of those items were from Lionel. MTH, GGD, and even Atlas-O got a share of my hobby dollars as well.
So in all honestly, the importers could EASILY skip catalogs in 2016 (even 2017!) and I wouldn't even skip a beat. I've been saying it all along... the biggest challenge the importers face is that many model train enthusiasts have already purchased more trains than they'll ever need/use. And once we start building layouts, there's a fair chunk of dollars that get routed to those efforts too. So acquiring more trains -- aside from a piece of rolling stock here and there -- is no longer a priority.
I can't even begin to list the number of "great deals" I've turned down when dealers offer super sales nowadays. Years ago, I'd be all over these opportunities. But now, it's an entirely different landscape -- even at super, bargain-basement prices.
I wish the importers all the best as they continue to raise prices in hopes of luring enthusiasts to buy new product while they deal with the instabilities of overseas manufacturing. But there will be little -- if any -- preorder dollars coming from yours truly for stuff featured in upcoming catalogs. I wouldn't even mind if a few items I've already pre-ordered for 2015 slip into 2016... a very likely scenario anyway.
David
It would be great if photos of production test models of the new SD40 diesels will be in the catalog, so we know what is actually coming.
The aluminum body 4650 Cu. Ft. ACF CENTER FLOW 3-bay covered hoppers have to be produced in the SOO LINE graphics from 1972 and 1973.
Andrew
Andrew
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Since this is a thread based on what I hope for and not what I think will actually be in it here is my wish list:
- A Visionline articulated steam engine, something of this flavor will do:
Erie, Triplex (2-8-8-8-2)
C&0, Allegheny (2-6-6-6)
SP, AC-9 (2-8-8-4)
Virginian, AE (2-10-10-2)
- More Visionline cars with freight sounds, Steam era coal cars this go around would be nice.
- A Visionline hotbox car.
- SP, AC-4 that was never made from 2008, with whistle steam
- A NW caboose from the steam era to match the Y6b
- A SP caboose from the steam era to match the AC-12
- a set of Virginians 120-ton 12-wheel coal gondolas
- USRA emergency war single sheath box cars and coal hoppers
- WWII propaganda plastered cars
What I hope for does not require new tooling, just reissuing three products that they have already made in new paint schemes or with upgraded electronics.
- Their Legacy PRR 4-4-2 Atlantic in post WWII paint (no pin striping).
- Their Legacy F3 ABA in as delivered PRR paint* (freight green with one stripe). Since we are hoping here, how about individual sale of A and B units both equipped with power and sound.
- Their PRR T1 4-4-4-4 from 2000 with Legacy. I'm not interested in Lionel copying MTH's version of this engine because the two prototypes had their streamlining removed soon after they were built, well before my layout's era.
*none of the manufacturers have released a recent production F3 in this paint scheme. I would have bought Atlas O's F3 Phase 2 in this scheme if they had done it.
2) Legacy Dreyfuss Hudson
3) Legacy E6's
4) A new exciting vision line product better than anything that any of us can think up
5) An official announcement about Lionel's plans with former weaver tooling
6) lionel made Pullman Bradley Passenger Cars (weaver tooling)... I doubt this one would happen but it would be neat
7. Newly tooled streamlined K4 with legacy
8. Legacy Commodore Vanderbilt painted correctly
9. Newly tooled C&O hudson with legacy
10. Full scale pensy T1 with legacy
11. A full scale cheesie steam special with legacy
12. Newly tooled modern Amtrak equipment (P42, superlines)
You are asking toooo much!!!
2R/3R VL products....They can do it easily, it is just a matter of "wanting to do it"
VL: Q2, Q1, AC9, S1, T1....they are lucky to have such a long list of beloved locos...
Winston -
2 of your list of 4 desired "compounds" were not Compound locos; the C&O/VGN 2-6-6-6
and the SP AC-9 were both Simple Articulateds. The other 2 did, indeed, use their steam twice and were Compounds.
Mr. Lionel, per AC-9 - please note:
I have the Lionel AC-9 from a few years back - which modeled the original coal-burning version. Vision/Legacy would not get me to buy another (maybe a "natural" Pilot model...?)
of those - though it is my favorite articulated - but a proper rendition (including tender - some were actually different tenders, not just oil-converted) of the later converted-to-oil-burning version would get me very interested.
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BigJohn - are you sure that you want (and I quote) "a full scale Cheesie steam special..."
"Cheesie?" I thought that it was spelled "cheesy".
A repeat of the last catalog, so I could catch up on everything that was still on the want list when the budget was exhausted would be fine with me. I still want some more of those new accessories they had.
Doesn't matter to me what they put in their catalog. I probably won't be able to buy any of it anyway! LOL
Maybe if they came out with a line of pre-owned train stuff......
Re-painted re-release of their existing tooling Legacy FEF-3 numbered #841 would be nice or #823 (technically FEF-2 but close enough for me) with or without wind wings.
A Newly tooled Legacy FEF-1.........
Less likely but still wishing.....
A new tooled Legacy UP style 4-6-2 heavy pacific....
or newly tooled Legacy UP style 4-8-2 Mountain......
or even a Re-painted re-release of their existing tooling Vision Line Challenger.....
They can always offer them in the standard Black livery as well and sell even more locomotives!!!!
I'd really like to see Lionel release these....I've never bought any MTH engines yet, I know they have an FEF and Challenger dressed as such I could consider and run conventional......
I've been waiting for a Legacy Lionel but I'm going to need something soon....
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Sorry for any confusion with my poor spelling. I was typing this on my phone while driving down the highway and trying to eat a cheeseburger.
I would like to see a full scale chessie steam special.
Lionel has been growing their LionChief Plus+, locomotive in both Steam & Diesel. I would like to see Lionel, keep growing this line.
I like LionChief Plus+ because when a visitor comes to my train room, I would hand them a LionChief Plus+ controller over my MTH / DCS Remote, that operates 19 locomotives. The MTH / DCS is to complex and confusing. I also like using my LionChief Plus+ locomotives.
I would like to see scale, in the LionChief Plus+ line up.
Gary - Cheers from The Detroit & Mackinac Railway
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I usually don't get involved with "wish list" posts, but, why not?
I'd like to see a late 1800's early 1900's scale steam engine. Something along the lines of the Williams 10 wheeler, only with add-on details. It could even be generic, as long as it isn't Pennsy! All the importers seem to want to add that firebox, then letter them for any railroad. Don't care what operating system they put in it.
Other than that, I guess I'd just like some tinker toys...
Norfolk Southern 89' auto racks-Jim
Sorry for any confusion with my poor spelling. I was typing this on my phone while driving down the highway and trying to eat a cheeseburger.
I would like to see a full scale chessie steam special.
I think that was D500 asking about this, but I hope you enjoyed the cheeseburger and no one was injured during the making of this post or the previous post above.
Welllll..... I could hope for re-emergence of some of Weaver's best....assuming they have the tooling. Not likely, though, considering the lead times for catalog layout/printing, business/tooling arrangements with a new mfg location, etc...
That said, I'll continue to hope for new products of interest....not including mammoth 2-4-6-8 Vision Line behemoths that leak 'steam' from every orifice and have a price tag that causes even Wall Street to blush. Example of what I'm looking for?....B&O-style wagon-top covered hoppers! Steeple cab electrics! Slope-sided cupola cabeese (ala CB&Q, DT&I, AA, Wabash...et al.) More 15" aluminum passenger cars with the interiors/riders/LEDs/diaphragms/sprung trucks/etc. level of detail in other road names...smooth sided and/or ribbed. Etc., etc., blah, blah. All standard O...not traditional.
"Traditional" items?...lower prices, lower prices, lower prices. It's more than disheartening to hear our (LHS) younger customers eager to buy something to add to their starter set with their accumulated allowance money, only to find it far beyond reach. (So, playing games with your thumbs on a small game device seems like an appropriate pocket-pablum alternative, after all!)
Not likely, of course. Probably more of the same (yawn...).
Hope.
I
NYC S-3 electric. They offered the S-1 (#100) and the S-2 - but not the S-3. The S-3's
frame was a bit longer, but the body was the same size as that of the S-2. Many would not care, but many of us NYC guys (there's a few) would snatch it up. Complete the set (I have the first two).
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Pilot Niagara
Pilot PRR 6-2-2-6
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Properly changed Later J-3a Hudsons.
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NC&StL streamstyled 4-8-4 - Yellowjacket and/or Stripe version.
It's a niche; will never happen, BUT - Lionel could use the chassis and running gear from the Reading T-1 - I've investigated for the scratch building project.
I know - most of you read that and just heard crickets, so here's a photo of the "Yellowjacket" version; the later "Stripes" order had no skirting - just a stripe. The locos were black and the lighter areas were a rich yellow. Right up there with Dreyfuss,
N&W "J", PRR T-1 in looks.
(Incredibly, one was saved. In Nashville - but it is in the later version - the nose and pilot treatment was changed in later life - and not for the better).
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In my prior post I forgot to mention I would like to see scale open auto racks,,,,Paul
Something I would reserve. A scale, Legacy "General" type loco, and scaled Legacy Docksiders. With all the bells, and whistles.
Somewere, sometime, someone will do justice to the "General".
How about a SP P-9 Pacific to haul the GGD Harriman sets.
Mikey
Winston -
2 of your list of 4 desired "compounds" were not Compound locos; the C&O/VGN 2-6-6-6
and the SP AC-9 were both Simple Articulateds. The other 2 did, indeed, use their steam twice and were Compounds.
Mr. Lionel, per AC-9 - please note:
I have the Lionel AC-9 from a few years back - which modeled the original coal-burning version. Vision/Legacy would not get me to buy another (maybe a "natural" Pilot model...?)
of those - though it is my favorite articulated - but a proper rendition (including tender - some were actually different tenders, not just oil-converted) of the later converted-to-oil-burning version would get me very interested.
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BigJohn - are you sure that you want (and I quote) "a full scale Cheesie steam special..."
"Cheesie?" I thought that it was spelled "cheesy".
You are Right! I meant articulated. How could I be so Stupid!
My desire for the Erie overshadows them all and has clouded my judgment.
1. O Scale intermodal stack cars (none produced by Lionel since 2010)
2. More rolling stock with freight sounds.
3. A Vision line hotbox/hotwheel car, that can be turned on/off with Legacy and TMCC
4. More Legacy ATSF diesel engines
Brill Bullet Trolleys
McKeen Cars
Thats all.
Something that doesn't die.
If I have money, 3751 would be nice
Scale Reading Hoppers from the 1940's. I don't care if they are composite hoppers or Fish Belly Hoppers, as long as they are correct and have a build date in the 40's.
I don't want there to be a Legacy AC-9 w/Whistle steam! Because I will order it, and I've burned through enough $$$ in the last year with the Cab Forward, Big Boy, LCS items, and a few other items I've picked up.
Love to see something Legacy in steam with Lehigh Valley or Reading road name. Hopefully no more than $349 street price - doesn't need to be scale for me.
Same thing I'ved asked for for years. A Rutland Milk Train set. A Legacy 10 Wheeler with 4 milk cars and a woodsided caboose. With all the northeast milk cars Lionel produced over the years. Many rode the Rutland rails before heading for Boston or NY. Seems like a no brainer as all the tooling exists.
Revamped NYC woodside caboose with finer details.
B&A Berkshire in a new rd. no. with the tender from the L2a Mohawk
Rutland light Mountain. Don't know what happened to the tooling as they were offered years ago.
New Tooled NH I5 Hudson with whistle steam.
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I sure hope so. I don't need all those troublesome bells and whistles of the first release. Just a simple Acela with Legacy or Lionchief + control. That would be great. And some Amtrak Viewliners.
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I'd like to see more LionChief Plus engines. A GG1, more F3/F7s, maybe a LionMaster style T1 4-4-4-4.
Oh well talk is cheap......and fun so here is my daydream. I would like a scale Colorado Midland 4-6-0. Let me hold my breath. Odd-d
1. I'll add another vote for the Acela, done in a more reliable fashion
2. Scale sized Mi-Jack container lift that operates on TMCC/Legacy; I'd even go for a remake of the old one with the remote control capabilities as long as the unit can handle scale sized containers
3. Amtrak Genesis in Phase V paint, superliners in Phase V
4. Amtrak Siemens ACS-64
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I sure hope so. I don't need all those troublesome bells and whistles of the first release. Just a simple Acela with Legacy or Lionchief + control. That would be great. And some Amtrak Viewliners.
I second the motion on your last sentence.
My simple wish is for Amtrak Viewliners... Amtrak Viewliners... Amtrak Viewliners!
Did I mention Amtrak Viewliners?
Lion master Union Pacific FEF and 4-12-2 to go with Lionmaster Big Boys and Challengers. Also, Lionmaster Challengers with smoke deflectors.
Run the Route 66 buildings again.
Bill T.
Anything Conrail!!!
Vision Line Allegheny WITH all the bells and whistles
In all honesty, less complaints. That's always good.
More autoracks (can never have enough!) and more VL freight cars (maybe some Pacemakers please.)
I remember seeing a prototype of a new ZW transformer at York about 15 years ago. I believe it was called a "Yardmaster". It had both Legacy and Conventional controls built in it. Very impressive unit that I hope they might consider producing.
Thanks, Phil
I would love to see some accurate Reading steam models, other than Pacifics and T-1's.
I would love to have a pair of 2-8-0 Consolidation steam locomotives that I could double-head in front of a large coal drag!
Jim
Somewere, sometime, someone will do justice to the "General".
The "General" was already done to perfection by SMR Trains. I wouldn't hold my breath for a Legacy scale version from Lionel. This engine, in scale, is tiny. When SMR did it, they had to put the motor in the tender because there was no room in the engine, and in order for the owners to add command (and sound), the electronics had to be put in a trailing boxcar. With the smaller motors and boards available now, command could probably added to the tender, but it would be at the cost of pulling power.
Andy
Perform 10 minutes of research and offer a Southern heavy Mikado with a correct road number and feedwater heater location. Then the buyer could at least assume the task of relocating the generator and bell assembly with replacement parts..
Either Southern Ms-4 4848 [Worthington FWH] or Ms-4866, second picture below with Elesco Feedwater Heater atop smokebox, would reflect a semi-correct model.
[photos from Ties Magazine's 5 part series on Southern Heavy Mikados].
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LionChief Plus in both Strasburg and Polar Express. Also an open air Strasburg car (as in "Hello Dolly") or more SRR freight and possibly a New Hope and Ivyland diesel.
Something else I hope for: A variety of cars (to include express) with the IR transmitter for Sensor Track operation. Even better, an IR transmitter upgrade kit we can put in the cars we want (or engines/tenders). I know, Lionel says that would be hard to do because of transmitter-sensor distance or some other excuse, but it would be nice.
New York Central Jade Green e8s
Acela
Spiderman F40ph
50th Anniversary peanuts Christmas boxcar...oops nevermind
New York Central Xplorer
rat
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Yeah!! One without all the wiz bang infrared and leaning body features that never worked with the first one they came out with.
Just make a simple, dependable $500 (or less) ACELA !!!
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Yeah!! One without all the wiz bang infrared and leaning body features that never worked with the first one they came out with.
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Little did Lionel know their Acela would be true to the prototype in every way.
David
65' Gondola. Lionel has done well with the 86' boxcar and 89' autorack. It's time:
Hoping for another Legacy LionMaster Steam option. I got a Challenger on order.
SOO LINE 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars in 1965 scheme.
10000-10018 series, even numbers only.
At least two road numbers;
10002 regular
10018 with Legacy sound system
Here is an HO scale model from Red Caboose
Andrew
The Santa Fe auto rack on Trailer Train TTGX flat car to produce is the one from the 1970's with the two top center panels painted in bright red and the words Santa Fe on the panels.
Andrew
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Yeah!! One without all the wiz bang infrared and leaning body features that never worked with the first one they came out with.
Just make a simple, dependable $500 (or less) ACELA !!!
Not going to happen for under $500 if your talking about what was released before without some of the features it had.
For a copy just like the original release without the some of the things that were new back then the price would still be in the $1200-$1500 range IMO.
"For a copy just like the original release without the some of the things that were new back then the price would still be in the $1200-$1500 range IMO."
That is closer to reality, David.
Legacy Atlantic's and Consoldations with whistle steam.
Make that Santa Fe...
Joe
- Scale sized Legacy diesel in Lionel Livery, to go with the upcoming flatcars with piggyback trailers and caboose.
- Legacy EP-5.
- PS-1 boxcar in Lionel livery.
- All new accessories
Yes, Legacy EP-5!!!!
65' Gondola. Lionel has done well with the 86' boxcar and 89' autorack. It's time:
I like the way you think! You're giving me HO envy.
Some of you guys have really exotic taste. I'm all about modern and commonplace.
On the other hand, I'm kind of wishing for a catalog that has nothing I like. There are some Atlas offerings that I NEED.
I would really love a vision line Allegheny with a vision line sound car coal drag right behind her. I love my Big Boy, but an Allegheny would be out of this world!!
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How about things never done --
ALCO Century 415 switcher
Amtrak ACS-64 -- the new electric on the Northeast corridor
Tony
Up on "The D & H Bridge Line"
Perform 10 minutes of research and offer a Southern heavy Mikado with a correct road number and feedwater heater location.
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Yeah!! One without all the wiz bang infrared and leaning body features that never worked with the first one they came out with.
Just make a simple, dependable $500 (or less) ACELA !!!
Not going to happen for under $500 if your talking about what was released before without some of the features it had.
For a copy just like the original release without the some of the things that were new back then the price would still be in the $1200-$1500 range IMO.
"For a copy just like the original release without the some of the things that were new back then the price would still be in the $1200-$1500 range IMO."
That is closer to reality, David.
I couldn't agree more, the precedence has been set. Reality.
Marker - oh, yes, oh yes - I agree. So would my checkbook.
To my knowledge:
These were built by GE, and tested on the NYC, then used on the UP - but the UP never owned them - and they were sent back to GE, where, during WWII, the GN leased them and they were used thefe. After the war they were scrapped.
I do not know in which livery or liveries these locos spent their lives (UP obviously, but Demo? GN? NYC? - unlikely, but...) A GE Demo scheme would be nice.
But I'll buy one, even in dumb ol' UP colors.
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An LC+ Consolidation, unnamed and unnumbered, that I can customize. I'd buy 2. As they would operate off the same remote, I'd doublehead them everywhere.
A coupon on the back cover for 25% off your total purchase.
Marker - oh, yes, oh yes - I agree. So would my checkbook.
To my knowledge:
These were built by GE, and tested on the NYC, then used on the UP - but the UP never owned them - and they were sent back to GE, where, during WWII, the GN leased them and they were used thefe. After the war they were scrapped.
I do not know in which livery or liveries these locos spent their lives (UP obviously, but Demo? GN? NYC? - unlikely, but...) A GE Demo scheme would be nice.
But I'll buy one, even in dumb ol' UP colors.
Don't expect to see them in lightning stripes or flashy demo scheme:
Rusty
I'm with Phoebe Snow on the VL Allegheny. Would think a good possibility since it followed the BB first time around