Every catalog release I see complaints that there is not much that is actually new or not made before. Complaints about Hudson's, Big Boy's, F-3's, etc. Over the years I have learned what the popular engines and road names are and lucky for me, they are the ones I like. I also feel lucky to see a lot of LIRR and Strasburg stuff which I consider more specialty than mainstream. So let's answer the question....what has not been made yet....that would actually sell?? Three people looking for an obscure engine to be built is never gonna happen. What is it that you think the masses want that has not been delivered?? Cause I am pretty sure that if there was a great demand for something, wouldn't someone be making it?? So...what is it?? Thanks...BigRail
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Scale New York Central K5 Pacific.
Scale C&O K3/K3a 2-8-2s
Scale USRA heavy 4-6-2, 2-8-2, and 2-10-2s.
I believe Williams made scale heavy 4-6-2s.
In thinking about items that have never been made in O gauge, different folks have different areas of interest. I will limit my comments to motive power.
I think there is a large group who have a clear preference for steam. So, they will want those steam engines that have not been made before. I'm sure there are many, many that haven't been made. I'm not a steam guy so I don't know if there are a few that most steam guys could agree on.
There is another group who prefer diesels. I count myself in this group, and I am sure it is much smaller than the steam fans. I think there are many diesel fans who would like to see some of the older diesels that haven't yet been made. Personally, I would like to see Lionel and MTH try to keep up with modern diesel engines.
I'm sure there is another group who are primarily interested in electric engines. I suspect this is an even smaller group. I have no idea what their preferences would be.
And, slicing the hobby a different way, there are many folks who are interested in particular railroads. Whether it is steam, diesel, or electric, they want to see every piece of motive power that that railroad has ever run made in O gauge.
Of course with the small size of O gauge railroading and concerns about it continuing to get smaller, unfortunately, I don't think we will many, if any, new O gauge engines of any type that would involve the investment in new dies.
I'll shut up now.
A re-issue'd Lionel 375 turntable with modern controls....
How about SP 4-6-2 Pacific like 32472 at Niles Canyon,these were the backbone of the Penninsula Comute Runs.
Mikey
My top choice for a steam locomotive that is not currently made and would sell well enough to make a profit is a high-quality scale Baldwin 4-6-0 from the turn of the century era (1890-1910). These engines were ubiquitous on branch lines right up to the end of steam, functioning as dual-purpose power for way freights and commuter locals. There is nothing available in this category now. The current Ten-Wheelers are either too modern (Lionel), made from a PRR prototype with a Belpaire firebox and therefore unsuitable to be decorated for other railroads (MTH Premier), toylike and lacking in detail (MTH Rail King), or a low-priced item that is good value but not satisfactory if you want a nice scale engine (Williams).
Here's a photo of what I'm talking about. The tall stack, high domes, uneven wheel spacing, skinny boiler and sharply tapered firebox are typical of the era. This picture happens to be a Milwaukee Road engine, but Baldwin and others cranked out hundreds like it. I'd buy one and I think a lot of other steam fans with small layouts would too.
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How about SP 4-6-2 Pacific like 32472 at Niles Canyon,these were the backbone of the Penninsula Comute Runs.
Mikey
Oh, boy...I could get tired of typing a long list.....but the only way that can
be proven is to actually offer them in the market place.
I will second the C&O K series...BUT didn't somebody (Lionel or MTH) offer the Pacific
equivalent and very few were sold? You want a deposit?
The cancelled MTH McKeen car...several people have claimed they wished they had
signed up for one and got it produced. I did. It wasn't. Deposit?
Seen that G scale Mack railbus in the Orange Hall? I'll sign up for a three rail O scale
model (hey, make it in two rail, also). Deposit?
Edwards small gas electrics were once all over the place....I want one. Deposit?
These may not be much in demand elsewhere, but I want separate sale Vanderbilt
tenders in three lengths. I'll take mine with coal, SP fans may want oil. I'll take
at least two of each length, the longest on three axle trucks, but I'd live with it if
the mfr. of the C&O K had sense enough to offer separate sale extras of its tender.
I think that three rail O should get one, at least, scale model of a side door caboose..
how about an ATSF version like was sitting on the ground at Rhyolite ghost town in
Death Valley? Lotsa people like the Santa Fe.
In the tourist-trap gift shops in Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge down in Smoky Mtn.
National Park, you could probably sell out a run of the Little River Logging 2-4-4-2
loco. Just tell the tourists they are driving on roads that once carried the rails that
loco ran on.
On and on...etc., etc.
I think there is a possibility that new dies will be made even in this economy. People will get tired of the same old molds all the time and just stop buying.
I do believe that whatever model the manufacturers make in at least the near future will have to be usable for many different roads. For steam, a new model of a USRA design that was popular with several roads might get traction. I don't think we will see my most wanted engine, a Lionel Legacy PRR T1, anytime soon because it just has too small a fan base.
Same for diesels. An engine not yet made in O gauge that was used by many roads could get built. Something used by the PRR in the late 40s would be nice
For me, I could live without new models for now while the hobby sorts itself out. I would like to see the re-release of currently produced models in additional road names not yet used. As a Pennsy fan, how about Lionel producing its Legacy E6 steamer in PRR post war paint, or any manufacturer releasing its latest F3 iteration in the correct PRR freight scheme. I don't think I ask for too much
The rest of the freight cars that match the diesel-electric locomotives models for the era between 1960-1980. Like the Pullman-Standard 85' intermodal flat cars and the modern Gondolas from Greenville Steel Car, Gunderson, Thrall Car.
Andrew
Higher definition semi-scale Rail King and Lionmaster steam locomotives. Smooth side Rail Kimg passenger cars with Budd domes.
OMG. How many times do I have to say it...
This is turning into another wish list of what do you want Lionel (or other manufacturer) to make. If you really look at the original post, the question is being asked about what would actually sell. Heck, if anyone knew what the correct, exact answer really was, they would be soon at the top of the manufacturing pyramid.
Would love some Rutland Steam but I know that will never happen. I've been very luck with all the Boston & Albany products over the years but I'm sure the well is dry now.
Less expensive stuff.
Maybe a little obscure for most, but I'd like to see some engines from smaller railroads like NC&StL Railway.
It's nice to see GM&O locos.
How about Central of Georgia RR locos?
So let's answer the question....what has not been made yet....that would actually sell??
EMD Gp40-2 phase II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...40-2#Original_buyers
GE B23-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_B23-7
GE u25c
http://www.thedieselshop.us/GE%20U25C.HTML
GE B36-7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_B36-7
ALCo C636- The Last Big Century [PRR]PC, CR, IC, UP, Demo, CN, Cartier, NYSW, DL&W
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A..._636#Original_owners
Ace 3000!
http://locomotive.wikia.com/wi...ype_Steam_Locomotive
Though not a costly engine or an even less expensive building or some form of rolling stock, but what about Lionel making elves to accompany their Polar Express line of accessories? I'm certain Lionel would find a pent up desire there and elves would be an immediate hit with P.E. fans.
I would recommend turn of the century scale locomotives of 4-4-0 American,4-6-0, and 2-6-2 Prairie. Hundreds of each of these locomotives were made and some continued operating until the end of the steam era.
These locomotives could run on small (tight turn) layouts and large layouts. They could run on more layouts so the customer base would be larger. Because they are smaller comparatively(to a big boy) they would have a lower price point. The small size could be used on ready to run sets too. Baldwin used the same boiler on different types of engines so a 4-4-0 and a 4-6-0 model could use the same mold in the manufacturing process.
A small locomotive on a small layout appears to make the layout larger. A large locomotive on a small layout appears to make the layout smaller.
Most of the small steam locomotives came in a flat black with engine numbers on the loco and road name on the tender. In the MTO (Made to Order) business model and modern graphics about any road name could be produced instead of the popular five names. This would be a great selling point for MTO.
Douglas
I believe Southwest Hiawatha's idea of a TOC Baldwin 4-6-0 is a good one. I'm afraid that the cost would appear too high for most people. The appeal of the WBB 4-6-0, with its faults, is that it is inexpensive.
Maybe the best idea for a good seller would be a nice, modest-sized, dual purpose loco.
3rd Rail has stated that they would do limited runs of more obscure locos, but they don't come cheap.
A loco that might really be a winner is a USRA Heavy Mike. According to the MR Cyclopedia, 23 roads used either original or copies of this, from East to West. An enterprising manufacturer could milk a model for years with different details, tenders, road names.
Not so thrilled with a Heavy Mountain-a pretty rare beast. Ditto with the 2-10-2 in both weights.
There was a comment about the lack of sales for the Lionel C&O F-19. Here's my take: Except for PRR, I stay away from passenger power because it requires appropriate passenger stock, costly and hard to find accurate models. (I am in for a 3rd Rail/GGD Columbian, however, and I have the Weaver Reading Crusader). For me, repaints of the same-old, same-old cars don't cut it.
I would not be surprised if others feel the same way. But I'd bet a C&O K-class would sell. It could absorb all those MTH 2-bay hoppers.
Delaware Lackawanna & Western Camelback 4-4-0 #952
Laidoffsick is right on. A container ship and more importantly a dockside crane even if the ship has'n arrived in port.
Jack
I think there is more of a big market for detailed, feature-laden scale models of smaller steam locos. Maybe its just me, but the Legacy Atlantics and 0-8-0s and Premier 2-8-0s and 4-4-0s are some of my favorites - just fantastic locos. done right, they are little jewels of models and they will fit and run on a lot of layouts where the big boys, so too speak, never will: there is a big market. In particularly, there were a lot of interesting locos in that size range made in the three decades around the turn of the 19th-20th century, leading up to WW1. A manufacturer would probably have to put them out on the market and let word-of-mouth gradually spread about how appealing they were, but I think once that happened they would sell well and consistently for a long time.
Then again, I would love to see a Soviet AA20-1 4-14-4 steamer - you can never have to many drivers -- but then that probably is just me . . .
Track thats abolutely quite
I also see a bunch of previous "wish-lish" items without any explanation of why the poster thinks it will sell in sufficient volumes for the manufacturer to make.
I think the consensus of all Atlas/MTH/Lionel is that articulated sets of 3 or 5 cars won't sell. After all, MTH never re-ran that 5-car spine set from a long time ago. They'll probably never make back the money invested in the tooling of the 5-car twin stacks.
Small early 20th century steam as TP Fan and Lee have mentioned. Many of us just don't have the room, or interest, in a Big Boy great as it is. These smaller engines would be just what many of us could use.
Scotie
As a redundant follow-on to Lee and Scotie above, would not a small 2-4-4-2 run on
smaller layouts? Third Rail offered two different logging, and I think larger, 2-6-6-2's,
but both were obscure to me and did not have the appeal. Were there not other
2-4-4-2's than the Little River version now on the west coast?
Disneyland Monorail.
Does it have to be a locomotive or rolling stock?
I would really like to see a TMCC talking station that interfaced the LCS track sensors. It could Identify the passenger consist, called out the name train and make station anouncements. Also one that would interface the older station sound diners would be nice.
The station could have night ambient lighting, interior lighting with arival boards that change.
large or small station size designs would have the same electronics in it.
You could even have an operational semaphore or block signal system that monitor trains arriving or leaving.
backgound motor traffic noise, smoke out the chimney, boarding calls, the whole nine yards.
Santa Fe Scale Hudson by Lionel.
California Zephyr with Domes, and Domed Observation by Lionel
As said above by joeya, scale open-side 60's auto racks (And CARS!)
One remote to rule them all.
No wait, that was a story about a ring... Sorry.
I would love to see more scale diesel locomotives from the Southeast - ACL, SAL, SCL and Southern Railway. While these have been made by Atlas, Lionel and MTH, it seems to me they have sold very well or out. Manufacturers in general have shied away from the southeast in all scales, and are quick to cancel orders (HO Genesis SCL Fs are a good example).
With the MTH F-7, Lionel F-3 PH 2 and F-7, it is possible to make good affordable correct models of ACL, SAL and Southern using current molds. Lionel has offered some nice southeast roads in their current catalog, but with BTO they might not get enough orders.
My two models that I really want to see would be Lionel SAL F-3 PH 2 and MTH green Southern F-7.
As for new molds, a correct scale ACL R-1 4-8-4 (also used on RF&P) and the ACL K15s 4-6-0 (like the 250 or 1031). I would even like to see a good standard consolidation 2-8-0 that could easily be kitbashed for Southern and other southeastern roads.
How about smaller diesels? The upcoming GE 44 tonner is great, but I sure wish MTH would have made it one of their 2-rail/3-rail convertibles. There's also the 45 tonner with side rods and the GE 70 tonner, that Bachmann already offers in HO, so they already have the prototype information on file. I also would like to see a CF7, which could be done in many shortline schemes, as well as the Santa Fe, in both cab types. Another personal favorite of mine is the GE U18b, which is a compact, yet husky looking locomotive.
I'm still waiting for an updated B&O Docksider with PS3. Does anyone know if either MTH or Lionel is looking into the "Keep Alive" technology already offered in DCC? It seems like an idea that could also be applied to either DCS or TMCC.
Bill in FtL
Good Day,
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Honestly a low nose GP9 would sell very well and many Railroads from Class 1's to short lines had them. For completely new tooling a B30-7, and B36-7 would sell very well because there are no company in O-Gauge has yet to produce them and a decent amount of Railroads owned them. Steam locomotive wise a nice small scale 2-6-2, 4-4-0, or 4-6-0 would do well because it would be relatively affordable compared to some of the large steam locomotives and it would be good for smaller layouts.
A modern Mi-Jack crane to unload the new Lionel doublestack containers. LOCOMOTION
I know Lionel has discontinued the PWC series but I would buy a set of military flats with Pyro vehicles.
Steve
This is turning into another wish list of what do you want Lionel (or other manufacturer) to make. If you really look at the original post, the question is being asked about what would actually sell. Heck, if anyone knew what the correct, exact answer really was, they would be soon at the top of the manufacturing pyramid.
That's what I am seeing as well.
It is very common in this hobby, and especially on OGR Forum for someone to say, "if they would make this, everyone would buy one!"
I always wonder how people know this. The answer, of course, is they don't. It's all anecdotal based on what their few buddies in the club say. There's nothing wrong with that. However, for the big guys, making lesser known items is a huge risk.
I think the only way we will see Lionel or MTH make some of the things that have been listed in this thread is if they make everything on a Built To Order basis, and not just the unique high dollar stuff.
As an example, there's some cool stuff listed in this thread, but so far nothing I would rush out to buy.
The big question here should be not whether it would sell, but whether the item would continually sell over a period of several production runs, which the manufacturers need just to break even on the development and tooling costs. They have ALL said it, and this plays heavily into the decision making process.
The Jersey Central loco on the first page might sell out one single run. But they need more than that. How many other roads actually owned that loco? And would folks into scale fidelity buy that loco in roads that never had that model engine?
I agree with Swafford that there is interest in intermodal stuff. But for young and old, you NEED affordable semi-scale that will run on 027 curves as well as the scale offerings. And folks might not like hearing this, but the semi-scale offerings would probably way out-sell any scale ones.
This is the dilemma the train makers face. In the small 3-rail market, where the majority is STILL traditional semi-scale, how to make everyone happy and still stay in business?
And there is a real disconnect between what many would like to see made in 3-rail and the reality of what would sell. I heard someone yell a question to Mike Wolf on why MTH doesn't make this particular road, and his answer was fast and simple: "It doesn't sell."
Many wonder about the pitiful selection of O scale decals. Microscale at one time had an extensive line of 0 scale decals. They don't now because the 0 scale didn't sell - and that's from the owner of Microscale. Meanwhile the offerings of N scale and HO scale decals could make an 0 scale guy just drool. While I can't imagine putting decals on an N scale car, obviously people do it, because Microscale continues to offer more and more N scale decals.
Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.
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Well we are on page two now and out of all that is suggested I would be in for a scale NYC k5 pacific (hot water) and intermodal (swafford).
clem k
Here's one that would NOT sell well in this country, but might just do well on the other side of the Atlantic. MTH has been doing pretty well with its Euro line, so maybe they might even consider building it. I'd buy one for sure.
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Acme Time Machine with all the options.
I have not seen one thing on this post that would have general appeal with allot of us train buyers. Mfgs. Need a broad range of buyers for a product that they have to make new tooling for.
I would like to see them upgrade their present tooling for better detailing, etc.
I have not seen one thing on this post that would have general appeal with allot of us train buyers. Mfgs. Need a broad range of buyers for a product that they have to make new tooling for.
I would like to see them upgrade their present tooling for better detailing, etc.
I think the N&W 0-8-0 S1a would sell. Originally owned by the C&O (C16a/b), they were sold to N&W and VGN. They would appeal to folks who model any of those roads.
Gilly
Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.
K-Line made one.
Rusty
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Standard Gauge is already an admittedly "niche within a niche" type market. Nonetheless, I think a Polar Express 400E along with state-sized passenger cars would be an instant sell-out for the tinplate crowd.
David
I would love love to see a GE 70 tonner.
A 1890's style open sided excursion car like the "Hello Dolley " car at Strasburg (or Disneyland)or open sided trolley would be great.
A New York or Chicago Elevated Forney 2-4-4F would be amazing because a lot of these were later used in mining ,industry and logging RR's
I have always liked the Baldwin baby faces.....I'd even get one in a fantasy scheme. Who had them besides the CNJ?
Peter
This modern center beam TO SCALE:
The hobby gets inundated with trains and rolling stock every year, much of it with more detail and features, yet I find there's few if any comparable accessories, mainly buildings that compliment the trains.
Now that is cool!
I have always liked the Baldwin baby faces.....I'd even get one in a fantasy scheme. Who had them besides the CNJ?
Peter
Peter:
The double ended units were unique to the CNJ. There were several types of single cab A units with a somewhat similar profile built for a number of roads.
Bob
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Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.
K-Line made one.
Rusty
Yes they did, and I have one. That is a semi-scale car; it's about the right length but a bit narrow. I had an awful time finding cars other than Volkswagens, Corvettes, and '55 T-Birds to put on it. Top-down convertibles look pretty silly on a Auto Loader; you don't rail ship a new car with the top down. 1/43 cars are too big to fit six full-size sedans on the K-Line Auto Loader. I even tried 1/64 cars but they were too small to fit in the wheel tracks. I finally settled on half a dozen 1/43 Eligor '62 Corvair coupes. Cost me a bunch, buying them one at a time off eBay. I'd still like to see a scale Auto Loader with full-size, scale sedans of the correct period. And I think it would sell. I'd buy two or three if they came with different cars.
Well I'll take 2- C&O K-3/3a with both 6 axel tenders, rectangular and Vandy.
2- C&O Hudsons #300 w/elephant ears, and #314. Yep, that'll bout do it!...........Brandy
P.S. By the time these would ever get made, Bachmann will probably have eleminated the compitation with their "Blue Tooth Electronics", or they maybe calling it "Gold Tooth", as the bucks they will have made by then.If so I want these electronics installed in these engines.
The hobby gets inundated with trains and rolling stock every year, much of it with more detail and features, yet I find there's few if any comparable accessories, mainly buildings that compliment the trains.
I agree that well-painted steam-era figures are sadly lacking.
Also, flat fronts for various structures for small layouts and to fill areas on a background. And not just brick and city buildings, either. Nobody seems to make rural wood factory structres as flats. Lots of them as 3D buildings, though. I need a long one and decided to build my own, but I would have spent some money on a good flat kit for a long wooden industrial structure. That could be used from early steam to the modern eras...
A re-issue'd Lionel 375 turntable with modern controls....
sounds good to me. Or better yet a simple turntable (like the Atlas HO surface mount one) one thats compatible with Fastrack or tubular O gauge.
A second NATTY BOH car set!
Every time I respond to one of these "I wish they'd make"'s, I know I am wasting my
time. The guy who runs the O scale March Meet in the Chicago area collected NYC
Hudsons, and had a wall of them in his now closed shop. Not sure how many of them
that was, but I know more variations have been ginned out, so I know there is probably somebody out there that could top that. However, I converted my Marx
#1829 Hudson into a Mikado. I just do not have any interest in "Hudsons", even if
by other names such as that assigned by the C&O. But I am sure many, many more variations will be forthcoming. I am just not sure why. I am also sure I ain't buyin'
n'air'n. I will keep nibbling around the edges until something new and different and
interesting is made, then race in and grab one, to quickly retreat back to the edges
while the machines keep stamping out doughnut holes.
Hmmm...interesting - it seems that the Baldwin Baby-Face keeps getting play. I've
wanted one for years, especially since:
- My 2 favorite RR's had versions: GM&O and NYC
- The super-funky CNJ double-ender has cried out for an O-gauge version forever
So, how about biting the bullet L or M (and it would almost certainly be M; too bad, as I like
TMCC, but I'd buy) and producing the B-B, A1A and twin-cab versions (Two-Face?) of the Baby-Face in proper and not-so-proper road names?
The Centipede is a Baby-Face, you know - I bought that (NdeM).
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MORE IMPORTANTLY (and I'm looking at you, Weaver, since Lionel grabbed the Heavy Mikado):
NC&StL streamstyled J-3 4-8-4 Dixies.
I'll take one of each version - a Stripe and a Yellowjacket
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Oh, and: NYC K-5 Pacific (a K-3 or K-14 would be nice, too)
NYC H-10 Mikado
I would like to see a new model of the ZW transformer.
About two thirds the size of the current model.
200 watt output for medium sized layouts.
thanks,
phil.
I agree with Rusty and Southwest on this as well:
Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit.
Lionel already has a suburb flat car as a starting point. All this is needed is the super-
Structure and or course the correct autos.
In my brief research, it seems that this might have been a one-off prototype, maybe someone can confirm or correct me. Still, I think this is very visual-centric car that would be welcome on many layouts.
Charlie
The hobby gets inundated with trains and rolling stock every year, much of it with more detail and features, yet I find there's few if any comparable accessories, mainly buildings that compliment the trains.
This is an interesting question. Thinking about it some more, I think I have a home run, or at least a triple for someone. If I were RMT, I'd invest in the tooling to make a plastic body for the current BEEP and BEEF chassis that was a scale model of the Brookville DES-70B, also known a decade ago or so as the BL-600 or something like that.
I think a ot of us would buy it, because we like and respect RMT and let's face it, a scale model diesel switcher, this cute, at RMT prices? Yessir!
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A standard gauge Jersey Central Camelback!
Well, these are more thoughtful responses than the usual "What do you wish...." thread gets, IMHO anyway. There are a bunch of things mentioned that I would buy, but at the top are the 4-6-0 steamer and the 6-car Evans Auto Loader.
"Smart" 21st Century Diesel Maintenance Facility
Building!
Technology and Innovations have always caught my eye. That
said, I would suggest that Lionel produce a "Smart" 21st Century Diesel
Maintenance Facility Building.
Legacy features:
1. Open and close
the doors with Cab-1 or Cab-2.
2. Turn exterior and interior lights on
or off with Cab-1 or Cab-2.
3. Enter Id’s into Legacy Cab-2 what Diesel
or Steam locomotives are assigned to their scheduled maintenance and have
announcements from the Maintenance Facility or Roundhouse when the engines need
to be serviced. “Engine 1988 Scheduled Maintenance today track one”, kind of
like a Locomotive Maintenance Management System. The Service check could be
programmed for 30, 60 or 90 days. This would make for a great reminder to look
your engines over for traction tire issues, lubricate gears, check for loose
wires, and a general maintenance check just like the real deal. If you wanted to
service all your engines in 1 session, then you could enter a code that would
make an announcement of all your engine ids one at a time every 5 or 10 minutes
until you have acknowledge the engine has been serviced. At the end of the day
you could enter a code that would check all the engines in inventory that have
been serviced and announce “All engines serviced next scheduled maintenance in
30 days”.
The Maintenance Facility could even make announcements for
staging your Diesel or Steam locomotives for sand, water and fueling. “Engine
1982 Track two clear for fueling”. A two stall modern building would look
fantastic. A roundhouse would be colossal!
Regards,
Swafford
I agree with Rusty and Southwest on this as well:
Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit.
Lionel already has a suburb flat car as a starting point. All this is needed is the super-
Structure and or course the correct autos.
In my brief research, it seems that this might have been a one-off prototype, maybe someone can confirm or correct me. Still, I think this is very visual-centric car that would be welcome on many layouts.
Charlie
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I would definitely buy a tinplate PE, a Tropicana reefer, a scale, modern diesel switcher and a highly detailed Atlantic (I have one Atlantic from Lionel).
But what about the commuter trains that run everyday in our communities?
I would be a sucker for a scale set of SEPTA silver liners (literally, my backyard growing up) or a set of the light rail cars that run throughout the Denver metro area (just outside my office window as I write). I am personally too young to wax nostalgic over yet another covered wagon (no offense intended).
Tooling costs are probably prohibitive, but then again, this thread assumes new tooling.
I'd like to think there are a lot of people like me that yearn for replicas of the very trains they take to work today.
Legacy features:
2. Turn exterior and interior lights on
or off with Cab-1 or Cab-2
Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.
K-Line made one.
Rusty
Yes they did, and I have one. That is a semi-scale car; it's about the right length but a bit narrow. I had an awful time finding cars other than Volkswagens, Corvettes, and '55 T-Birds to put on it. Top-down convertibles look pretty silly on a Auto Loader; you don't rail ship a new car with the top down. 1/43 cars are too big to fit six full-size sedans on the K-Line Auto Loader. I even tried 1/64 cars but they were too small to fit in the wheel tracks. I finally settled on half a dozen 1/43 Eligor '62 Corvair coupes. Cost me a bunch, buying them one at a time off eBay. I'd still like to see a scale Auto Loader with full-size, scale sedans of the correct period. And I think it would sell. I'd buy two or three if they came with different cars.
Being a Corvair owner, I'd like to see that load.
Unlike you, Evans didn't seem to have a bias towards any one manufacturer. Hudson, Dodge, Packard, Chevrolet, Kaiser and Mercury, all represented in the pic.
Prototype or not, I'd enjoy having more than one of those in scale on my layout.
Bruce
All the new light rail lines popping up in cities around the country. These are the only trains some kids are going to relate today as the country increasingly becomes more urbanized.
And monorails, gondola/cable cars. Many people in this hobby are only active around Christmas time and are looking for fun things to make their Christmas layouts even more animated. Lionel has done a great job so far with things like the Candy Cane commuter train and some of the trolleys, but so many people who put up a Christmas village are looking for gondola systems. And they could model it on a real system that people identify with that exists so even the more serious modellers would want to use it on their layout.
Also, if it hasn't been done before, a cog railway system like the one going up to Pike's Peak.
I don't want anybody to take this wrong but I would love to have an O-scale version of Hitlers WWII armored train engine/tender and consist of armored cars. I saw a glimpse of it in the American Heroes Channel. No, I am not a Nazi. I just dig cool trains and that Armored train was a really interesting piece of equipment. I don't collect European trains but would like to own this one European train, if MTH would make it in PS3.
P.S., I do collect and operate O-scale military trains of WWII and modern vintage and have a couple of different US Army consists.
"Smart" 21st Century Diesel Maintenance Facility
Building!
Technology and Innovations have always caught my eye. That
said, I would suggest that Lionel produce a "Smart" 21st Century Diesel
Maintenance Facility Building.
I would definitely be interested in something like this. But, I have 2 concerns:
1. How big would it have to be?
2. How much would it cost?
I think this would be a great candidate. A 2-6-6-2 Mallet. A bunch of roads used them so I believe there's some money to be made on this version. Milwaukee Road for me of course. One of each please.
A variety of scale circus cars including passenger cars.
As I look at all these suggestions, it's obvious how everyone enjoys the hobby and what they'd like to have on their model railroad.
But who is to say that some of the suggestions would not sell? It may not be true for some items "that everyone would buy one". But just because someone doesn't like a suggestion doesn't mean "that no one will buy it" because "it does not appeal to me".
We'd probably have a better chance of getting items we like in the future, not only discussing it here but by contacting your favorite or all manufacturers of your preferences. If they notice enough requests for an item they make want to make them.
A variety of scale circus cars including passenger cars.
I have some Lionel/Kline Scale and Kline Circus Cars. All Ringling Bros. But most of my circus train consist is semi-scale ringling bros. Some new stuff from MTH and Lionel would be greatly appreciated in O Scale.
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Here's another one that would sell: the Evans Auto Loader from the early 1950's. The manufacturer would also have to come up with some 1/48 autos to put on it, since 1/43 cars won't fit. I'm convinced an Auto Loader would sell - train guys like cars too, and it would be a great addition to any transition-era freight train.
K-Line made one.
Rusty
Yes they did, and I have one. That is a semi-scale car; it's about the right length but a bit narrow. I had an awful time finding cars other than Volkswagens, Corvettes, and '55 T-Birds to put on it. Top-down convertibles look pretty silly on a Auto Loader; you don't rail ship a new car with the top down. 1/43 cars are too big to fit six full-size sedans on the K-Line Auto Loader. I even tried 1/64 cars but they were too small to fit in the wheel tracks. I finally settled on half a dozen 1/43 Eligor '62 Corvair coupes. Cost me a bunch, buying them one at a time off eBay. I'd still like to see a scale Auto Loader with full-size, scale sedans of the correct period. And I think it would sell. I'd buy two or three if they came with different cars.
Being a Corvair owner, I'd like to see that load.
Unlike you, Evans didn't seem to have a bias towards any one manufacturer. Hudson, Dodge, Packard, Chevrolet, Kaiser and Mercury, all represented in the pic.
Prototype or not, I'd enjoy having more than one of those in scale on my layout.
Bruce
As a Corvair owner I applaud the choice of a Corvair-only auto carrier load
Jeff C
- FasTrack turntable
- LEGACY Water Tower w/Sound
- LEGACY Passenger Station w/Recordable Sound
A lot of great, cheap, simple technology has yet to reach the O scale world. How about:
- A universal Bluetooth wireless system with two components: A thing you connect to the track and a thing you hold in your hand. The Liontech remotes/MTH Remote Commanders are the right idea, but how about one for conventional operators that works with any transformer and any engine?
- Wireless remote cranes and loaders. These already exist in not-quite-the-right-sizes. I think treating the train as part of an RC stuff-handling system would really attract attention from new potential customers. Play value is still the name of the game IMO.
- Undecorated USRA steamers - cheap ones - with free software for printing your own lettering, logos and numbers.
My $.02,
Alan P
How about a scale San Fran trolley!
Who ran a 2-6-6-2 with a Coffin feedwater heater...Milwaukee? I would buy a Denver and Salt Lake Midado with a Coffin feedwater heater, but probably nobody else would. Reading back through this I see why none of what we want gets made....everybody wants something different.