Skip to main content

I setup a relay on my friend's layout to control a station stop and change the aspect of an associated block signal.

There is a dead track at the end of the station that gets energized when a train passes on the adjacent track.

The adjacent track has an insulated section that controls a 24V relay with a separate power source. When the relay operates it provides power to start the passenger train and changes the block signal from red to green. The stop start operation is flawless, the PW ABA holds the relay up solid and the passenger train starts every time. The problem is that the relay is fluctuating as various freight cars roll over the insulated control track. This causes the signal to keep flipping from green to red. I thought that it was a case of dirty wheels; but cleaning them thoroughly didn't help. One of the men thought that maybe the fast angle wheel sets weren't providing enough contact surface. To prove the point he took a PW gondola that had some dirt on the wheels and moved it over the control track. The relay stayed up and the lights stayed on. So now we are thinking that a capacitor across the relay winding would smooth out the momentary opens.

 

Your thoughts and suggestions would be appreciated.

Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

You need to know the coil current of the relay, the higher the coil current, the larger the capacitor required.  As Stan says, it has to be a DC relay powered from a DC source.  We use 24V signal relays with a small bridge and a capacitor for our insulated track signals, I have Axicom relays with a 6ma coil current.  A 220uf capacitor gives me several seconds of delay in the relay dropping out, and the signals are rock-steady.  Higher coil currents will require larger capacitors.

Thanks for the replies. The relay that I used has the following data on the case.

10A 24VDC/220VAC

1/3HP 227 VAC

1390HF - 2C - 24VAC

China 4199

 

I tried looking up the relay on line. I found similar Guardian relays and it appears that 1390HF - 2C - 24VAC is the model.

 

This relay operates on both AC and DC.

If I understand correctly, I will have to use a separate DC source or use a bridge rectifier with the capacitor. I didn't see any coil current rating but while I was at the shack I picked up two of the parts that Steve suggested.

 

Post

OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
800-980-OGRR (6477)
www.ogaugerr.com

×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×