What would like to see 3rdrail produce next? New or rerun?

PRR E2b, E3b and E2c.  All would be great and putting money where my mouth is. This to me is serious and getting too old to wait forever, I'm 80 years young.

mikeg

NP Class W3 2-8-2, please! I would also like to see a re-run of the SP&S class E1 / NP class A3 Northerns, I would be in for an SP&S #700 for sure. 

A scale E60 electric.  CH, MA, C, whatever.  Get the right numbers with the right paint schemes. 

Rerun of the GGD Heavyweight coaches.

Jim

NH Mountain with a Vanderbilt tender.

a Brass NYC Woodsided caboose. Offer it as a B&A, Rutland and undecorated as well. The offerings from MTH and Lionel just aren't up to today's standards as far as rolling stock.

My vote is for a run (or rerun) of the 1950's era aluminum Super Chief cars. With  Santa Fe F7 locomotives soon coming from both 3rd Rail and Atlas and the recent rerun of El Capitan cars I would expect  there would be a good response.

Bob

In my opinion, 3rd Rail would be excellent at making detailed models of the: 

Norfolk and Western Class A

and

D&RGW L-105 Challenger 

drgw.net

3rd Rail did a Pennsy gas electric, twice. I hope that anybody who wanted one, got one. Brill, GE, and others did similar cars for a number of roads .  How about one or more of these for the rest of us? How many roads besides and including the UP owned McKeen cars.?.. How many Mack railbuses?  A large number.  How many obscure logging roads owned small two truck Heislers and Climaxes? A large number.  Sadly, only a few owned small four paired driver articulateds like the Little River. This is what l will buy.  They make a lot of stuff l barely glance at, often, over and over.

My vote is for the Santa Fe war bonnet FP45 also in the freight scheme

I purchased a new 3rd Rail L-131 (2-rail operation -- conventional DC power), and it runs very very smoothly and quietly and looks great. It draws only about 0.90 amp pulling 28 freight cars on the level, all fitted with Athearn delrin trucks and Intermountain wheelsets. So, you have my vote for an L-105, too.

C&O C-16a 0-8-0 switcher    It could be marketed under C&0 , Virginian and N&W road names and numbers.

(sigh)....once again.....

EMC EA's (B&O) and E-1's (ATSF).... 

So iconic.  So gorgeous.  So colorful.  So sexy.

.

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So overlooked................at least in O3R, anyway.

.

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I know, I know......"So what?"

Ah, mortality!.....couldst thou not tarry another 50 years or so?

Santa Fe E1A/B.

Matching passenger cars when a passenger engine is produced, I.E. the recent Illinois Central E8/9 will hit the street with no passenger cars to pull. There are several other examples as well.

Charlie

PRR steam locomotives: N2 and an H8,H10 would finish my roster.

Maybe a P&WV mallet.

Norm

PRRTrainguy posted:

PRR E2b, E3b and E2c.  All would be great and putting money where my mouth is. This to me is serious and getting too old to wait forever, I'm 80 years young.

mikeg

I'd have to get the e2c and e3b.  Although considering their luck with orders for the e44 I'm not getting my hopes up.  

A modern diesel.  SD70MAC or ES44 tier 4

PRRTrainguy posted:

PRR E2b, E3b and E2c.  All would be great and putting money where my mouth is. This to me is serious and getting too old to wait forever, I'm 80 years young.

mikeg

E2b.  Please

FP45, E1 As and Bs

A true version of the CNJ blue comet cars and all the various paint schemes they wore after.  Never done correctly in O scale.

Reading K-1 2-10-2.

Rerun of the Strasburg Mollies

jd-train posted:

Rerun of the GGD Heavyweight coaches.

Jim

Add me to that list. I'd buy a couple sets.

UP 2-10-2 and 4-8-2 Mountain (TTG & black-will buy one of each)

Pennsy HC1

Milwaukee Road  Class N 2 6 6 2, F3  4 6 2  with the Chippewa paint scheme, and the North Woods streamline 4 6 0.

North Coast Limited with Domes and F7s.

86TA355SR posted:

jd-train posted:

Rerun of the GGD Heavyweight coaches.

Jim

Add me to that list. I'd buy a couple sets.

UP 2-10-2 and 4-8-2 Mountain (TTG & black-will buy one of each)

Yeeaassss! Yes and Yes!  2-10-2 would be awesome but we really need some Mountains to match the Harrimans sets I have on order in TTG and Yellow.  I would buy  TTG w/silver-white (2rail)  and a Black (3rail) UP 4-8-2 as well.  

(That's 4 reservations Scott, 96 to go!)

(photo: UPHS Streamliner).

I've already made the following suggestions to Scott so we will see. He told me the bottom 2 are on the list and he was considering the FP45

MPI MPXpress

Siemens S70

Or Bombardier Series 100

And FP45s 

E5s 

E6's

There will be some pleasantly surprised people soon with the next round of announcements.  I can't go much more into detail as they are a little ways off and we are still discussing project possibilities, especially in the diesel area.

I second Scale City's Milwaukee Road Mallet 2-6-6-2 request. I wouldn't mined a 4-8-4 S2 Northern or even a 2-6-2 Prairie Class either. Milwaukee Road of course.

I'm sure that there are FP45s and E units in our future

Ditto on an NP North Coast Limited set with domes, except I would prefer F9's on the point.  I would also buy NP freight F9's in an A-B-B-A set. 

Matt Makens posted:

Siemens S70

Or Bombardier Series 100

 

I'd reserve either one (or both) of the above without hesitation. Even though the pictured examples are nowhere near my neck of the woods

I already have the Electroliner , Greenliner and the NYC T-motor.

---PCJ

Since Atlas won't be shipping engines for some time, I can commit to buying one 3rd Rail ....

-re-run of SD7/9 in Conrail, or

-modern diesel in Conrail or NS

WITZ 41 posted:

86TA355SR posted:.

UP 2-10-2 and 4-8-2 Mountain (TTG & black-will buy one of each)

Yeeaassss! Yes and Yes!  2-10-2 would be awesome but we really need some Mountains to match the Harrimans sets I have on order in TTG and Yellow.  I would buy  TTG (2rail)  and a Black (3rail) UP 4-8-2 as well.  

(That's 4 reservations Scott, 96 to go!)

If a white/TTG and yellow/TTG Mountain are offered, I'll buy both plus the black one!  So, he only needs 95 more orders!

The USH models are a little long in the tooth...but great models.  Would love to see a modern version.

Chicago South Bend and South Shore 700 Series. They are taking orders for this now but just do not have enough but getting close.

I keep hoping for the Southern Tennessean - they are mostly Pullman Standard cars that were similar or the same as used on the other railroads ( with I think only the observation being unique so that Pullman sleepers could be added at Bristol, VA).

I'll but Scott a big steak dinner with all the fixins at York if he makes this one. 

And perhaps if Scott feels compelled I think the Southern streamlined PS4 that pulled the Tennessean would be great too. Don't think there's demand for these? Try buying the Weaver model from 10+ years ago on eBay.  

NYC H10 Mikado and C&O K2 or K3 Mikado

Rerun of the GGD Heavyweight coaches.

Jim

I will third this offering esp the PRR heavyweights. I won Independence Hall Observation car. I have the 12-1 Sleepers on order. But now I need the rest of the train!

Also the PRR "Yellow Kid"

also PRR USRA 2-10-2

PRR k2, k3, or K5 [NO K4's]

PRR HC1 [second that]

PRR D16sb 4-4-0 [can also be lettered for Strasburg RR]

PRR E1 4-4-2 Cammelback [ also in Reading and LIRR!]

And in speaking of repeats, the PRR T1 Baldwin version with three portholes in front or Altoona Version[minimal skirting][no demo version- MTH has that model] 

Also a rerun of the FP7 in PRR

(Tuscan &5 stripe , DLGE & Single Stripe) and Demonstrator schemes!

Adding to the wish list.  Here are the PRR engines I need to fill out my late 40s PRR roster.

-Steam: H6b (reissue), H8, K5, N2sa

-Diesel (all units powered with sound): EF15 (F3) Phase 2 ABBA,  AS10 (ALCO S-2), BS6a (Baldwin DS 4-4-660).

I would be happy if 3rd Rail made anyone of these engines.

!!

I would love to see an A4 Locomotive (Mallard, Union of South Africa, Sir Nigel Gresley) with a full consist of 13 Brass LNER Gresley Teak Corridor Coaches be offered by 3rd Rail. The British (Rocket, Stevenson) introduced the locomotive in 1838. This would be an awesome project for 3rd Rail and should be limited to no more than 200 sets to be bought over a 2 year period. That would make it affordable. Three Rail AC & DC with smoke & sound as options. 

Steam: New Haven Mountain (with or without vandy tender)

Diesel: Highly accurate and road specific RS3's

Passenger: LIRR P72's...Goodfellow and MTA.

I mentioned the GGD heavyweights earlier in the thread, I specifically want a set of B&O heavyweights.  Missed them the first time around and they are almost impossible to find on the secondary market.

Other items I want to have:

• E8/9 done in the late era B&O paint scheme (solid blue with yellow trim.)  Not nearly as flashy as the earlier paint scheme, but is more representative of locomotives in the mid 60's. 
• Reading K-1

Jim

As previously echoed on here several times, l too would quickly spring for one of the C&O Mikados . Even though they ran nowhere near the East Slope. 

Also would like to see the C&O K2 or K3 Mikados. Make both the Vandy tender and the rectangular tender versions and I would buy one of each.

The C&O Pullman Standard passenger cars with the fluting only below the windows. These were ordered by the C&O and NKP but some also wound up on the D&RGW, D&H, B&O, ACL, SCL, NYC, and Amtrak.

Ken

B&O Big Six.  I believe these were done 14 years ago.

yankspride4 posted:    ..... Diesel: Highly accurate and road specific RS3' .....

I omitted ALCO RS-3 because it has been discussed here in the past, and Scott from 3rd Rail stated that the thinking was ... that it had been sufficiently produced by other manufacturers already. But ....

I'll put on a deposit down on two  northeastern railroad RS-3's

Jim

prrhorseshoecurve posted:

Also the PRR "Yellow Kid"

 

YES!!!!!!

PRR D16sb 4-4-0 [can also be lettered for Strasburg RR]

YES!!!!!!

PRR E1 4-4-2 Camelback [ also in Reading and LIRR!]

YES!!!!!!

EBT Jim posted:

yankspride4 posted:    ..... Diesel: Highly accurate and road specific RS3' .....

I omitted ALCO RS-3 because it has been discussed here in the past, and Scott from 3rd Rail stated that the thinking was ... that it had been sufficiently produced by other manufacturers already. But ....

I'll put on a deposit down on two  northeastern railroad RS-3's

Jim

 

I understand, but I would love to see a 3rd Rail version...fixed pilots...canon drives...oh man! Give me a LIRR in Goodfellow and a NYC Lighting Stripe!

Anything steam in CP or CN!

SP P-14 

SP 4-8-2 any Mountain class non-streamlined

SP AC-12

DM&IR N-3 2-8-2 grey boiler with top mount air tanks 

After the SD40-2s are produced (fingers crossed), SD60/60I/60M.

Also GP40P/PH-2

NEW HAVEN Mountain.

milwrd posted:

I second Scale City's Milwaukee Road Mallet 2-6-6-2 request. I wouldn't mined a 4-8-4 S2 Northern or even a 2-6-2 Prairie Class either. Milwaukee Road of course.

I also support making of a Milwaukee Road Mallet in O gauge.  In fact, producing the one in your picture would be perfect!

I also would love to see someone make a tinplate version in Standard Gauge.

Bob Nelson

C&O SD18's

Super Chief Rerun! 

Mopac Colorado Eagle 

An Alco RS3 the only true to scale was Weavers and who knows who has the dies.We definitely need a true to scale version.Erie EL and NKP

How about a Milwaukee Road Fairbanks Morse Erie built.

I would like a re run of the NYC 1938 20TH Century Limited in two rail. I had the original release of this train from Scott, but each car weighed almost four lb. and I had no engine that could pull a train of them. The new cars should have LED's with off-on switches, and NO wipers, and weigh no more than his most recent production. I have "a few" Dreyfuss Hudsons, and no train for them to pull.....

SEE REVISION AND SUPPLEMENT - PAGE 4

Santa Fe heavyweight chair cars.

SD40-2s are a long way out guys. We are gonna get some filler in there

OK. I'll get on my knees and beg. Milwaukee SDL-39s.

Dick

ogaugeguy posted:

Rerun of the Strasburg Mollies

And/or Strasburg 2-10-0 #90

EBN posted:

In my opinion, 3rd Rail would be excellent at making detailed models of the: 

Norfolk and Western Class A

and

D&RGW L-105 Challenger 

 

drgw.net

 

 

 

 

hmmm a L-105 i would like that one as well

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have been done already:

PRR - Keystones & stripe only

Penn Central

NYC Cigar Band

ACL

B&O and C&O late scheme

C&NW

Illinois Central

L&N

Mopac

Wabash

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

GG1 4877 posted:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

Interesting. How would the current owners would react to "improved tooling" units? Are the GGD customers big on re-runs of already done paint schemes as well?

How about the Rio Grande EMD F9 Locomotives #5771 and others used to pull the Rio Grande Zephyr and Ski Train. Would also like to see the RIO Grande Passenger Cars from GGD. Cheers Don

*  1900-era wooden passenger cars

* Rock Island 5000/modernized or 5100 series 4-8-4's

I would LOVE it if Golden Gate Depot produced some LIRR P72 Coaches in plastic

GG1 4877 posted:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have been done already:

PRR - Keystones & stripe only

Penn Central

NYC Cigar Band

ACL

B&O and C&O late scheme

C&NW

Illinois Central

L&N

Mopac

Wabash

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

I'd be in for some Mopac E7s!!

also SP Golden State red/silver 

I would think with some of the more popular engines such as E7's, F7's, PA's etc. Scott could offer them every couple years in reruns with some staple paint schemes that will always sell such as SF warbonnet F7's along with some specialty schemes that change and are catered to specific passenger trains on deck for GGD; such as the empire builder or north coast Limited. In all honesty I can name maybe 6 or 8 different paint schemes in each of the engines I named that I would order. However, only having one or two chances at them limits what I can order. I don't have the cash to order 5 or 6 ABBA sets at once and I imagine few of us do. I am still cringing at my decision to not order SF warbonnet PA's but I had to go with SP Daylight for my Sunset Limited and Silver Aspen for my CZ. I rolled the dice hoping that the SF warbonnet would be an obvious candidate in a rerun. However, I still want the NYC lightning stripe and Mopac PA's too.

This is merely intended to offer an idea. I do not pretend to know how to run anything. Scott imo is doing an incredible job at bringing unique models to market and I will always sing his praises for it! 

BobbyD posted:

GG1 4877 posted:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

Interesting. How would the current owners would react to "improved tooling" units? Are the GGD customers big on re-runs of already done paint schemes as well?

I would think it would be like any other manufacturer that does re-runs.  Processes and techniques improve over time.  The basic E7 tool is very accurate with the right proportions so it is still the benchmark that no one else has caught up to outside of brass.  If you recall the E7 had two runs originally and a third when it was done for the GM Train of Tomorrow.

The F7 rerun has done well so far and that just came out last year so it seems that some of the other diesels might be worth redoing for those who have seen them perform and seen the quality of the finish product.     

I would buy FP45s in the ATSF Superfleet scheme and maybe a Kodachrome too.

RM

yankspride4 posted:

EBT Jim posted:

yankspride4 posted:    ..... Diesel: Highly accurate and road specific RS3' .....

I omitted ALCO RS-3 because it has been discussed here in the past, and Scott from 3rd Rail stated that the thinking was ... that it had been sufficiently produced by other manufacturers already. But ....

I'll put on a deposit down on two  northeastern railroad RS-3's

Jim

 

I understand, but I would love to see a 3rd Rail version...fixed pilots...canon drives...oh man! Give me a LIRR in Goodfellow and a NYC Lighting Stripe!

That's a bummer.

I'd certainly commit to two RS-3's:         

- CNJ Toothpaste Striped

 - Lehigh Valley

I would be in the market for the NYC "reversed grey" (aka light grey carbody with dark grey and silver striping) E7's. (There were only a few originally painted this way.) The only "E" that I would be interested would be one that would run about 80 scale mph on 12 VDC. I passed on the earlier NYC "E" release because I heard they were way too slow, about 50 mph. When the NYC was alive and well and running E units, they were below 5 mph for about four seconds.......so I happen to believe that very low speed performance for a passenger locomotive is not critical.

Hello Jonathan hope things are going well for you.

In answer to your question: 

“Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes PRR - Keystones & stripe only…

Penn Central

NYC Cigar Band

ACL

B&O and C&O late scheme

C&NW

Illinois Central

L&N

Mopac

Wabash

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.”

From my perspective, I do think the E7’s could be produced again, but, and I spoke with Scott on this subject when the E8/9’s were announced, I think there is a disconnect in that when the passenger engines are announced without a reasonable passenger car consist in sight (be it 3^rd rail, MTH, Lionel or Atlas) it makes it hard for the operator to pull the trigger for an order in the hopes that “someday” a reasonable passenger car set becomes available.

From Scotts point of view he indicated that it would be difficult to match a passenger car consist up with every engine, and I get that, but, I do think people are not reserving passenger based engines because of this condition, not because of the engine or road name selected.

I think Walthers or BWL is and has been doing a named train series and many of the past selections have sold out. Of course, as you get past the big 5 SF, PRR, NYC, UP CBQ, you will start to run into limited demand.

Myself, I would like three of the named trains based on the road names you have selected.

Illinois Central – City of New Orleans or Panama Limited.

C&NW – “400”

Wabash – Blue Bird

I’m not even sure you have to deliver the whole set at the same time, but rather indicate “in good faith” the after the engines are delivered a set of proper passengers cars will be announced in the future – I think that reason alone would spur people to secure an engine(s) reservation.

If a particular engine does not garner enough reservations then of course building the cars becomes a moot point. For sure it is a delicate balancing act trying to guess what the market will bear and not have projects drag on over many years as was the Atlas California Zephyr set.

Hope that helps.

Charlie

Now that Scott has announced Amfleet cars, how about scale Superliner cars? Please.

I'd buy superliners and budd hi-level cars

Looking forward to my hi-levels to arrive this week in Amtrak.  Granted in phase I prior to being converted to HEP, but still excited to mix them with my GGD and K-line single level phase I Amtrak cars.  I'd love to see some quality Superliners.  I went after a pair of K-line ones on the bay a while back and they went for $225 a car used.

Jonathan, that's not that far off of car price from Scott.

Exactly!!!!!

Olympian Hiawatha passenger set

RG L-105

MILW Erie Built would be lovely. 

1938 Santa Fe Chief or 1939 Capitan 

Burlington Penduloum car

Burlington Silver Dome

more brass heavyweights!!!

I see all these budd hi level cars fetching big money too.

An added benefit to the Olympian Hiawatha is a CN version can be done for the Canadian fans since they bought all those cars from the Milwaukee Road. 

Amtrak  Superliners to put together an Empire Builder train!

Amtrak phase 3 Slumbercoaches.  I bought a phase 1 and love it!

Southern Pacific Daylight articulated chair cars. I should have purchased another set instead two separate chair cars that were never removed from the box............

SANTIAGOP23 posted:

......more brass heavyweights!!!

 

I'm in also!  Would love to have a couple of sets, especially in brass!

I'd like to see the FT's re-run, including the GN, NP, and CB&Q.  I think a lot of people missed out on this wonderful model and would jump at the chance if it were done again.

I'd also go for a Great Northern N-3 2-8-8-0 and/or a GN Q-1 2-10-2.

RTR Mark

My suggestion would be the vintage Auto Train in purple, red, and white scheme. U36B's, full domes, lots of different passenger sleepers and regular domes.    Also E7 rerun in ACL purple and the FM Erie built diesel. Also a Seaboard RSC3.

RXR posted:

How about the Rio Grande EMD F9 Locomotives #5771 and others used to pull the Rio Grande Zephyr and Ski Train. Would also like to see the RIO Grande Passenger Cars from GGD. Cheers Don

Yes, Rio Grande passenger cars would get my money.

EBT Jim posted:

yankspride4 posted:    ..... Diesel: Highly accurate and road specific RS3' .....

I omitted ALCO RS-3 because it has been discussed here in the past, and Scott from 3rd Rail stated that the thinking was ... that it had been sufficiently produced by other manufacturers already. But ....

I'll put on a deposit down on two  northeastern railroad RS-3's

Jim

 

I certainly don't want to harass the good folks at 3rd Rail. And, maybe O and HO is apples and oranges, but ....

RS-3's have been done many times in HO by various manufacturers. Recent releases by Athearn, Atlas and others. But now, Bowser has announced a new RS-3 .... very nicely done with many road name specific details.

High volume HO locomotive dealers like HogTranz are reporting record setting reservations ... that will probably make them their best ever selling diesel engine.

Just saying. 

Purplepapa posted:

My suggestion would be the vintage Auto Train in purple, red, and white scheme. U36B's, full domes, lots of different passenger sleepers and regular domes.    Also E7 rerun in ACL purple and the FM Erie built diesel. Also a Seaboard RSC3.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm in on this one!  I used to own some of the MTH Auto Train carriers but sold them off when MTH never followed through on passenger cars to match.

Ready to run Mark,

I too would like to see the FT's re-run in the CB&Q and Great Northern. But I would really like to see a scale detailed GN steamer that doesn't require 72 inch curves to look good. How about a mid size engine like a 4-6-0 in GN or Q - highly unlikely as there is not enough interest for Q or GN models. I would suggest a 4-6-2, but these are already available, just not in Q or GN prototype.

When it comes to steam, I miss HO.

RAY

Ray of sunshine posted:

Ready to run Mark,

I too would like to see the FT's re-run 

I would be all over some Santa Fe FTs 

Originally posted by GG14877:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and
 offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?
Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?
I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have been done already:

PRR - Keystones & stripe only

I got the last two PRR Tuscan 5 stripe A units. I can go for a Tuscan 5 Stripe B unit as well!

But I still long for the FP7 AA return too!

Now that Golden Gate is doing the Amfleet I would love to see a P42 and or F40PH!

Amtrak phase 3 Heritage Fleet :

Dome coach

Slumbercoach

Dining car

>>===============VIEWLINERS

Phase 3 Diners Sleepers & Baggage

Phase IV Diner & Sleeper =======<<

GG1 4877 posted:

A true version of the CNJ blue comet cars and all the various paint schemes they wore after.  Never done correctly in O scale.

I would be in for those in a heartbeat.... also a brass 4-6-2 pacific to pull them. 

greg773 posted:

I would LOVE it if Golden Gate Depot produced some LIRR P72 Coaches in plastic

Absolutely! 

Definitely need these too! 

Ray of sunshine posted:

Ready to run Mark,

I too would like to see the FT's re-run in the CB&Q and Great Northern. But I would really like to see a scale detailed GN steamer that doesn't require 72 inch curves to look good. How about a mid size engine like a 4-6-0 in GN or Q - highly unlikely as there is not enough interest for Q or GN models. I would suggest a 4-6-2, but these are already available, just not in Q or GN prototype.

When it comes to steam, I miss HO.

RAY

Ray,

I would go for a GN H5 or H7 Pacific as well.

RTR Mark

An accurate East Wind, or a Yellow Kid.

A d16 or an early  PRR E Atlantic

Boston and Maine S4  The one with the skyline casing to pull the East Wind

Texas and New Orleans #786

Texas and New Orleans Sunbeam

I consider, l hope correctly, 3rd Rail, envisioned by me as a one-man-band who has to be closely attuned to the market, to be making no flighty market tests. So this modern diesel and Amtrak passenger trend must be as he sees demand, and gets deposits for.  I feel left at the alter, as it has been a while since a steamer interesting to me has been offered. The 1939 D&RGW San Francisco Golden Gate Exposition Flyer, and most if not all of the unique steamers listed above, haven't a snowball's chance of being produced, if l read that right?  If those are the trains in demand, I need to reorient my pursuit of this hobby back toward the era of more mfrs. and away from current production.

colorado hirailer posted:

I consider, l hope correctly, 3rd Rail, envisioned by me as a one-man-band who has to be closely attuned to the market, to be making no flighty market tests. So this modern diesel and Amtrak passenger trend must be as he sees demand, and gets deposits for.

Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot does NOT require, nor ask for, deposits. Only sufficient reservations in sufficient quantity will cause a project to move forward into planning & production.

 I feel left at the alter, as it has been a while since a steamer interesting to me has been offered.

Then just what steam locomotive model/models WOULD you be interested in?

The 1939 D&RGW San Francisco Golden Gate Exposition Flyer, and most if not all of the unique steamers listed above, haven't a snowball's chance of being produced, if l read that right?  If those are the trains in demand, I need to reorient my pursuit of this hobby back toward the era of more mfrs. and away from current production.

I wouldn't call one announcement of of a modern diesel or a set of Amtrak only cars a trend.  3rd Rail has always had a history of offering cars that their customers are interested in.  It's a balancing act between what will sell in sufficient numbers and still meeting the niche markets that 3rd Rail has filled more than any other manufacturer at their price point.  The math is still the same on how these projects need to be run so the company can continue to offer us the wonderful trains we all love so much.  To make a project go it takes around 100 brass steam locomotives, 750 diesels, and 2000 passenger cars.  If something can be offered in multiple paint schemes and multiple railroads it has a better chance of making these numbers.  There is no bias against road or project, it's simply numbers.  

Personally, I see the diversity in the current offerings as a bonus for the customer who enjoys accurately done trains at a fair price.  Doing a few modern projects doesn't assume that the classic trains won't still be offered. 

I recall a 3rd Rail brass wagon top caboose, quite a few years ago that I failed miserably to buy. I wish I had just pulled the trigger when I first saw it.

My question: Do any of you think that 3rd Rail should offer a matching caboose with every locomotive they offered (providing it was used with the locomotive during that era)?

TM Terry posted:

I recall a 3rd Rail brass wagon top caboose, quite a few years ago that I failed miserably to buy. I wish I had just pulled the trigger when I first saw it.

My question: Do any of you think that 3rd Rail should offer a matching caboose with every locomotive they offered (providing it was used with the locomotive during that era)?

This discussion has been held over, and over, and over, for the last 2 or 3 years. The hard facts are, brass cabooses have increased in cost to manufacture, so drastically, that they are now darned near impossible to sell enough to cover their costs. Folks in 3-Rail simply will NOT pay upwards of $250+ for a brass caboose model! Sunset/3rd Rail is STILL stuck with some Erie cabooses, last I heard.

aterry11 posted:

An accurate East Wind, or a Yellow Kid.

A d16 or an early  PRR E Atlantic

YES!  A Yellow Kid train!

N&W Head End 3 car 3 rail set. There was a hint that they may be back on the website.

N&W S1a or Z1B locomotives.

N&W Heavy Mountain. Scott has already done the K2a (got one) , so he's 1/2 way home on this project.

Well, THAT explains the lack of brass cabooses, and why l can't find the red UP side door to go with the yellow one.

I know I'm in the minority here, but would love a NYO&W "Mountaineer" engine and passenger set. 

I would also like to see some NYO&W FT sets. 

Well, THAT explains the lack of brass cabooses, and why l can't find the red UP side door to go with the yellow one.   However, a $250 good scale model, not $100 generic plastic molding, to go with the same quantity of brass $1000+ steamers does not seem unreasonable.  However, maybe minimum quantity is much higher on cars such as cabooses than locos?

Anyway, anybody who buys an Erie engine please buy a 3rd Rail caboose, if that is more than a rumor.

EMD SD70MAC, SD75 and SD70M......................

I'd buy $300 cabooses, heck I have one from Malcolm

New York Ontario & Western  X Class 2-10-2 "Bullmose"

Early drag freight muscle. 

In service, added sand dome, electric headlight

Erie and the "Canadian Government Railways" had similar locomotives....

Jim Harrington posted:

New York Ontario & Western  X Class 2-10-2 "Bullmose"

Early drag freight muscle. 

In service, added sand dome, electric headlight

 

Erie and the "Canadian Government Railways" had similar locomotives....

When I saw this suggestion, I thought, good choice and then I saw that CNR had these T1a locomotives. Now even better. I'd be interested if it was a CNR model rather than a CGR model; example locomotive 4003.

http://www.trainweb.org/oldtim..._steam2/santa_fe.htm

T&NO Sunbeam would get my money.

The Cotton Belt Alco Pa's would get my money also if they were correctly shown. The lettering on the side should be St. Louis South Western as long as the black reefs stay ( I am a fan of this).If you are going to keep Cotton Belt on the side then you need to go back to silver roofs. If what they show did exist and it could have for a short time but i have never seen some pictures.

Correctly originaly painted Cotton Belt FT's would get my money also.

Matt Makens posted:

I'd buy $300 cabooses, heck I have one from Malcolm

I have two of Malcolm's cabeese

Sunset/3rd Rail in the past made truly lovely Electroliners and Budd RDC's in brass. I own examples of both. Along the same lines, but yet, being something a little different, I'd finally like to see and purchase Brill Bullets done in O scale. 

A Milwaukee Road S-2 Northern

Well, here I go again.....

I too would love to see 3rdrail produce some more speedliners similar to their North Shore electroliner such as the Missouri and Arkansas blue goose.

Bob Nelson 

I would love to see them make some "fish cars" like the "WFC Badger".  Maybe even make the car an operating car which offloads "milk cans" (filled with fish fry) into the beds of waiting pickup trucks for further delivery to local streams. 

Bob Nelson

Still looking for the B&O Big Six 2-10-2.

Cotton Belt 819, Please. Did anyone see last weeks Trains and Locomotives with the segment on railway Hospital cars? I especially liked the on board nurse offering a patient a pack of smokes!

Jim Harrington posted:

New York Ontario & Western  X Class 2-10-2 "Bullmose"

Early drag freight muscle. 

In service, added sand dome, electric headlight

Erie and the "Canadian Government Railways" had similar locomotives....

Yup, I'd be game for these.

Plane cars?

Bob Bubeck posted:

Sunset/3rd Rail in the past made truly lovely Electroliners and Budd RDC's in brass. I own examples of both. Along the same lines, but yet, being something a little different, I'd finally like to see and purchase Brill Bullets done in O scale. 

This would be a awesome!   This was going to be Walter Cameron of Western Hobbycraft's  next planned product.  He never got to that before his health failed.   I would really enjoy seeing these made!

OK I'll add to this but I would like anyone to do it. Most of us have smaller layouts if any so our need for larger is limited to a shelf. So I propose a modern center cab. I have no picture handy, but a modern GE 80 or 110ton would seem to fit. It also does't have a lot of fancy detail and small enough to have fixed pilots.

Lee 

GG1 4877 posted:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have been done already:

PRR - Keystones & stripe only

Penn Central

NYC Cigar Band

ACL

B&O and C&O late scheme

C&NW

Illinois Central

L&N

Mopac

Wabash

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

I would be in for a pr. of Great Northern.  I missed out on the Peterson customs from the last run.

Matt01 posted: 

I certainly don't want to harass the good folks at 3rd Rail. And, maybe O and HO is apples and oranges, but ....

RS-3's have been done many times in HO by various manufacturers. Recent releases by Athearn, Atlas and others. But now, Bowser has announced a new RS-3 .... very nicely done with many road name specific details.

High volume HO locomotive dealers like HogTranz are reporting record setting reservations ... that will probably make them their best ever selling diesel engine.

Just saying. 

Where I buy HO stuff, The Model Railroad Shop in NJ, they're saying the same thing. This new, highly detailed RS-3 will be their biggest diesel locomotive release.

albertstrains posted:

Well, here I go again.....

Scott could put me down for two of these!

3rd Rail brass. Maybe GGD aluminum or even plastic. Old K-line (not really accurate windows) are impossible to find and, based on prices, apparently made out of gold and unicorn bones.

Does Eddy Wichmann still make accurate kits?

Anyway, a nice full set and add-ons like the Harriman project would be welcome.

Then when 3rd Rail announces an E6 next year I'll buy the matching A-A pair #5005A and #5005B. (Yes an A unit was actually numbered 5005B).

A true 400.

B&O Strata Dome / Amtrak Strata Dome

With spotlights!

VistaDomeScott posted:

B&O Strata Dome / Amtrak Strata Dome

With spotlights!

B&O has been done with spotlights, I will post a pic in a day or so....

The NYO&W Mountaineer (correctly' not like that joke from MTH)

PRR HC1 #3700

Metroliners (PRR, PC, Amtrak)

PRR BP20s (given that the Weavers are so hard to find)

B&M Electric Boxcabs that ran the Hoosac Tunnel

Anything motive power that ran in the northern Connecticut River Valley (B&M, CV, RUTL, CN, CP, GT, etc...)

New England-specific passenger train sets

Wine trains (passenger & freight)

Bob Bubeck posted:

Sunset/3rd Rail in the past made truly lovely Electroliners and Budd RDC's in brass. I own examples of both. Along the same lines, but yet, being something a little different, I'd finally like to see and purchase Brill Bullets done in O scale. 

You can buy the shell in O from Shapeways. Then, with considerable effort and cost (I figure north of $400) you can motorize it with Q Car components, paint it, and begin a fruitless search for O scale decals. The good news is you won't have to deal with that pesky overhead.

Ask me how I know. I bought a shell back when it was resin cast. Still in my infinite queue.

P.S: I'd go for an Electroliner in Red Arrow livery. 3RD Rail made them and they are more scarce than hens' teeth

Man this has been a popular thread.  Goes to show how well liked 3rdrail products really are.  Keep the suggestions coming.

When it comes to the diesel engines, all are beautiful from a collectors standpoint. Operating them is a very different story. Just get rid of the absurd flanged wheels, which make operating on anything but perfectly laid track a nightmare.

REVISION

Santa Fe heavyweight chair cars.  (with two different roofs: air conditioned and non-air conditioned).

. . . and . . .

Pullman-Standard 6-6-4 lightweight sleeping cars.  There were 111 of these Plan 4099 lightweight, smooth-side, sleeping cars in this group - the largest order ever placed for sleeping cars - and they ran on several railroads in several liveries behind steam and diesel power after their delivery in early 1942.  Early in their life they were lettered "PULLMAN" and operated in Pullman 2-tone grey.  As the American series, they were operated by UPRR, C&NW, and SP in yellow (maybe also in grey during the war), on the Overland Route.  SP and CRI&P operated them on the Golden State Limited.  MP operated them on the Colorado Eagle.  IC ran them on the Panama Limited.  Erie had 4 cars operating between Chicago and New Jersey.  And (Okay, it's no surprise; this is primarily why I am interested.) Santa Fe operated 26 of them, in classy 2-tone grey, as Valley series cars.  I would buy at least two of these, and possibly a third to apply Tomar markers to and then use it as the tail car on my homely but proud Nos. 3 and 4.  Ben Fioriello won't be able to pass up a pair of genuine Erie passenger cars.  Nothing ever looked better than Missouri Pacific Eagle colors or Illinois Central orange and brown.  I might even have to add an IC and an MP for a special Grand Canyon tour group, and up my order to 5.  Okay, Scott, you already have 7 of them sold and they have not even been announced.  Know what I mean?

These cars would make nice - and authentic - add-ons to many trains. 

I'm going to get busy selling cars to make room for them.

GG1 4877 posted:

Any interest in a re-run of the E7s with some upgraded tooling to get more variety in the pilots and offer some new road names and or new paint schemes on ones that have already been done?  Perhaps Powered B units in 3 rail?  I'm just thinking off the top of my head of some roads that might work in addition to ones that have been done already:

PRR - Keystones & stripe only

Penn Central

NYC Cigar Band

ACL

B&O and C&O late scheme

C&NW

Illinois Central

L&N

Mopac

Wabash

The tooling is 5 years old now if you can believe it.  A rerun would allow for some great improvements.

I'm in for at least one powered Santa Fe E3B or E6B.  Santa Fe never owned any E7's, but who can tell any external difference between an E7B and an E6B or an E3B?  An E3 or E6 booster with stainless steel side panels in the consist behind one of the Sunset E8's coming soon would be just perfect.  So, no "never-was" Santa Fe E7A, but an E7B pretending to be an E6B or an E3B would be very nice.

Here is a loco that could be a best seller. The photo is from MA & PA but these locos were used everywhere and from the turn of the century to the end of steam.

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

VistaDomeScott posted:

B&O Strata Dome / Amtrak Strata Dome

With spotlights!

B&O has been done with spotlights, I will post a pic in a day or so....

Looking forward to seeing this!!!!!

Number 90 posted:

REVISION

Santa Fe heavyweight chair cars.  (with two different roofs: air conditioned and non-air conditioned).

. . . and . . .

Pullman-Standard 6-6-4 lightweight sleeping cars.  There were 111 of these Plan 4099 lightweight, smooth-side, sleeping cars in this group - the largest order ever placed for sleeping cars - and they ran on several railroads in several liveries behind steam and diesel power after their delivery in early 1942.  Early in their life they were lettered "PULLMAN" and operated in Pullman 2-tone grey.  As the American series, they were operated by UPRR, C&NW, and SP in yellow (maybe also in grey during the war), on the Overland Route.  SP and CRI&P operated them on the Golden State Limited.  MP operated them on the Colorado Eagle.  IC ran them on the Panama Limited.  Erie had 4 cars operating between Chicago and New Jersey.  And (Okay, it's no surprise; this is primarily why I am interested.) Santa Fe operated 26 of them, in classy 2-tone grey, as Valley series cars.  I would buy at least two of these, and possibly a third to apply Tomar markers to and then use it as the tail car on my homely but proud Nos. 3 and 4.  Ben Fioriello won't be able to pass up a pair of genuine Erie passenger cars.  Nothing ever looked better than Missouri Pacific Eagle colors or Illinois Central orange and brown.  I might even have to add an IC and an MP for a special Grand Canyon tour group, and up my order to 5.  Okay, Scott, you already have 7 of them sold and they have not even been announced.  Know what I mean?

These cars would make nice - and authentic - add-ons to many trains. 

I'm going to get busy selling cars to make room for them.

A run of Pullman 6-6-4 sleepers would be great, much like the Pullman 4-4-2 and 10-6 sleepers Scott did a few years back. Santa Fe would be a hit. It would be great to have these released in all the roads that ran these plus maybe some railroads that didn't.... like pennsy, NYC, northern pacific and so on. 

I'm still ll hoping to find some add on cars to the Powhatan Arrow set - even some plain N&W coaches and sleepers would be fine. If Scott could do a small run count me in for at least 3 cars.

And of course I am holding on to hope for a Tennessean set!!

Coincidentally, I just looked in a 1954 Official Guide, and verified that one of the 6-6-4's was assigned as the through Los Angeles to Minneapolis Pullman on the City of Los Angeles (to Omaha), connecting to the Omaha Road North American.

We rode a round trip on the through car that year, and I remember distinctly that the car we rode eastbound was lettered for UP and the one we rode westbound was lettered for C&NW.  

One again the perennial request. I know Scott tried this once but I am seeing more interest here for New York central.

H10b

K5b

Pete

I 2nd Nortons sentiments on NYC H10.I could go for one also

Grande L-105!

VistaDomeScott posted:

Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:

VistaDomeScott posted:

B&O Strata Dome / Amtrak Strata Dome

With spotlights!

B&O has been done with spotlights, I will post a pic in a day or so....

Looking forward to seeing this!!!!!

These are crappy cell phone shots that don't really do the car justice. The spot lights work and are a really nice touch. This car was part of the GGD Colombian set released a few years back. Hope you like

Norton posted:

One again the perennial request. I know Scott tried this once but I am seeing more interest here for New York central.

H10b

K5b

Pete

I would be in for both. My first preference would be the K5b.

PRR K2sa.  While the K4s has been done to death as much as I like them, the K2s fulfilled an important role in secondary service prior to WWII.

As an aside, Bowser did a decent NYC K5 in HO when the super detail kit was added.  One of the few Bowser models I don't have.