Just excited about the new t1's. Been waiting on a modern version for along time. Hope they are worth the wait. So if you have already, show it off. Until then I'll be waiting on the call.
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I get mine on Friday!
what's a T1 ?
willygee posted:what's a T1 ?
Pennsylvania Railroad duplex 4-4-4-4. Very, very famous steam locomotive.
In this case, the Reading T1 4-8-4s (think Chessie Steam Special, AFT-1, Reading Rambles, etc). See my signature...
HW thanks and wow
In 1989, Richard Kughn and Mike Wolf introduced a model of the first T-1 (2100) in the Western Maryland roundhouse at Hagerstown (6-18006). Three Forumites painted and detailed this one as 2124, the T-1 that inaugurated the Iron Horse Rambles in the third photo above.
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No offense ReadingFan, but do you post those photos in every thread having even a small thing to do with the Reading T-1's? I've seen them everywhere already... 
Back on topic, these are the engines I was most excited for in the '16 catalog. Let's hope these engines have better QC than the other big steamers this year.
c.sam posted:I like 'em both but will easily give the nod to the PRR T1
I totally agree with you:
Regards
Fred
If I could only keep one loco.....It'd be my PRR T1. I know you guys are looking for the new Lionel version.........but I can only show mine old Weaver.....
Wait...I do own a Lionel PRR T1.....Lionmaster......but it's put away as it arrived without headlight or smoke and no one wanted to fix it....so it lives in a box.
FRED......great footage of the T1 outside.....I bought 2 cases of Gargraves SS track but gave up on outdoor.
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AMCDave posted:If I could only keep one loco.....It'd be my PRR T1. I know you guys are looking for the new Lionel version.........but I can only show mine old Weaver.....
Wait...I do own a Lionel PRR T1.....Lionmaster......but it's put away as it arrived without headlight or smoke and no one wanted to fix it....so it lives in a box.
FRED......great footage of the T1 outside.....I bought 2 cases of Gargraves SS track but gave up on outdoor.
why would no one want to fix it ... Its not hard to fix..
jojofry posted:why would no one want to fix it ... Its not hard to fix..
Long story short......It is still the most I ever spent on a loco alone. A big online train seller sold me the Lionmaster.......they didn't want me to return it to them but send it to Lionel in Ohio. $50 to and $50 return shipping.......I just spent $600 on the thing.....it became a fight I lost and thus is now just a bad reminder. Worse purchase I ever made. I'd sell it but what is a broken Lionmaster worth??? Not going to take a total bath on it. thx
AMCDave posted:jojofry posted:why would no one want to fix it ... Its not hard to fix..
Long story short......It is still the most I ever spent on a loco alone. A big online train seller sold me the Lionmaster.......they didn't want me to return it to them but send it to Lionel in Ohio. $50 to and $50 return shipping.......I just spent $600 on the thing.....it became a fight I lost and thus is now just a bad reminder. Worse purchase I ever made. I'd sell it but what is a broken Lionmaster worth??? Not going to take a total bath on it. thx
When you sent it to lionel what they say ?.. I have rebuilt diecast es44s from the trucks up anything is possible ..
Never sent it.......I thought it was insane I had to spend $100 to fix a $600 loco that was hours old....as said a fight I lost. thx
AMCDave posted:Never sent it.......I thought it was insane I had to spend $100 to fix a $600 loco that was hours old....as said a fight I lost. thx
Oh after parts if you did it yourself you probley have at least 60 more to fix ..I would fix it and run it or sell it .You probley could still get decent money for it .. Is it a tmcc or legacy one ?
C&O Allie posted:In this case, the Reading T1 4-8-4s (think Chessie Steam Special, AFT-1, Reading Rambles, etc). See my signature...
this is definitely what I am referring to. personally not a fan at all of the pennsy T1. hope to see these soon.
Received the Chessie T1 today. Anybody that has ordered the Reading or Chessie T1 will be happy with the details of this engine. I've included many photos. Enjoy.
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That is a beautiful engine. You are very fortunate to have one.
Rod Miller
Awesome!
What is that gold thing on the front headlight? Surely you jest that Lionel installed the AFT golden eagle on this whole run of Reading T1's!
prrhorseshoecurve posted:What is that gold thing on the front headlight? Surely you jest that Lionel installed the AFT golden eagle on this whole run of Reading T1's!
The Chessie Steam Special did have the eagle on the headlight, same as the AFT version. 
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Looks like a few missed / incorrect details on this model. The headlight should have been centered on the smokebox door as seen here....
Also, the designation under the cab window and below the number should be T1 , not H as shown in the photo in the post above.
Here are a few additional photos of the real engine for comparison ...
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Curious... Did your T-1 ship with a dummy front coupler? With multiple road-numbers produced, these would be a natural for double-heading -- especially two Readings.
David
DaveSlie posted:Looks like a few missed / incorrect details on this model. The headlight should have been centered on the smokebox door as seen here....
Boy that's disappointing for $1400
Ok, let's not get this thread deleted too... I would like to see more photos of the other versions!
Ben
RickO posted:... Boy that's disappointing for $1400
Wait 'till we see what the new 2017 street price will be for a standard, run-of-the-mill steam locomotive!
David
banelson posted:Ok, let's not get this thread deleted too... I would like to see more photos of the other versions!
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Exactly... Since fewer of us are pre-ordering nowadays, we need to SEE and HEAR the stuff before we spend our hard-earned dollars.
David
Lionel is gonna raise there prices more get ready.
NVisich posted:Received the Chessie T1 today. Anybody that has ordered the Reading or Chessie T1 will be happy with the details of this engine. I've included many photos. Enjoy.
It looks great. Thanks so much for sharing enjoy sir.
Even though mine comes in on Friday, how does it sound? I'm hoping they got the correct whistle!
Hey, Guys
We just got our T1s today and will ship all of them on Thursday .
Thanks
Pat
Rocky Mountaineer posted:banelson posted:Ok, let's not get this thread deleted too... I would like to see more photos of the other versions!
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Exactly... Since fewer of us are pre-ordering nowadays, we need to SEE and HEAR the stuff before we spend our hard-earned dollars.
David
Someone is preordering these things because they keep producing it.
It would seem that at least during some of the lifespan of AFT #1 the headlight was in the orientation that Lionel used for their newest model. Was it ever like this on the chessie steam special or the original reading engines?
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Judging by the catalog illustrations, Lionel did NOT lie to us about the headlight. If you compare the images of the MTH Chessie T-1 and the Lionel, the headlight is perched higher on the latter. Yes, Lionel probably should've looked at photos better for the most accuracy, but honestly this is not a deal breaker. It's still a gorgeous looking engine and the new tooling used on this engine looks terrific.
Yes the reading and AFT models should have the headlight perched higher than dead center on the smokebox.
Mark Mcclung posted:Rocky Mountaineer posted:banelson posted:Ok, let's not get this thread deleted too... I would like to see more photos of the other versions!
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Exactly... Since fewer of us are pre-ordering nowadays, we need to SEE and HEAR the stuff before we spend our hard-earned dollars.
David
Someone is preordering these things because they keep producing it.
I wouldn't doubt it. I shake my head... but I don't doubt that some folks would order these even if Lionel increased the price by $500. 
And if it makes them happy, that's all that counts. Of course, dealers continue to order LOTS of BTO extra's... and as long as that continues, everything is really business-as-usual. I haven't missed out on a single BTO item that I decided to purchase AFTER Lionel delivered the goods. The last big-ticket item I pre-ordered was the FEF a few years ago... and I could kick myself for even pre-ordering that one. I still don't know why I did it. But hey, nobody's perfect and we all make mistakes. 
Like everything else I've purchased recently... had I waited to purchase the FEF-3 afterwards, I could have paid less than the dealer pre-order prices. Have you looked around lately? Even Charlie Ro is trying to blow out (or close to it) the different NYC ESE Hudsons. And a couple of dealers are offering sales on the VisionLine GG-1 that just shipped, so those can be had now for less than Lionel's MAP which was $1190 give or take a few dollars.
Now after a few years tick by, more folks are gonna connect the dots. And that's gotta become a bit of a conundrum for Lionel and its dealers. But of course, Lionel is already out of the equation at this point, since the products are now sitting in dealer inventory -- not Lionel's warehouse. So if the dealers offer a 15% discount with free shipping, that's all coming out of the dealer's piece of the action. 
Lionel has already made their money on the deal.
Only if dealers stop ordering BTO extra's will the dynamics of waiting things out change.
David
Mikado 4501 posted:... It's still a gorgeous looking engine and the new tooling used on this engine looks terrific.
To my eyes, the T-1 is not a particularly detailed steamer even in the prototype pics. So the real proof is to see a side-by-side comparison of this T-1 with MTH's current T-1. Or better yet, I'd love to see a comparison of Lionel's new T-1 vs. the Lionel T-1 that Mike Wolf produced for Lionel's Dick Kughn back in the day. Of course, even if the older tooling holds its own compared to the new tooling, the sound on the new model alone will surely blow away Railsounds of the 1980's/1990's.
David
Rocky Mountaineer posted:Mikado 4501 posted:... It's still a gorgeous looking engine and the new tooling used on this engine looks terrific.
To my eyes, the T-1 is not a particularly detailed steamer even in the prototype pics. So the real proof is to see a side-by-side comparison of this T-1 with MTH's current T-1. Or better yet, I'd love to see a comparison of Lionel's new T-1 vs. the Lionel T-1 that Mike Wolf produced for Lionel's Dick Kughn back in the day. Of course, even if the older tooling holds its own compared to the new tooling, the sound on the new model alone will surely blow away Railsounds of the 1980's/1990's.
David
I want to see the Reading.
