WOW the 3rd Rail Jawn Henry

Impressive, amazing that such a beast was built. What is that item it looks like a box above the engine cab on the roof?

An extended coal bunker.  As delivered there were coal bunker doors.  But the need to reduce coaling stops the bunker was extended.

Same here regarding crazy experiments (I have four versions of the UP No. 80 coal turbine). I hope that this model runs as smoothly as shown in the videos.

I don't think that there's any hope of Lionel or MTH producing their version of this - they've had plenty of chance to date for a Legacy/PS3 model and zilch has appeared. 

The inspection is going very well. These Jawn Henry's will be loaded in a container next week for their journey to the US.

Here is a picture of what a bunch of Jawn Henry's look like.

If you don't have one reserved, it is not too late. We still have a few left to reserve in 2R and 3R.

See our web site for details and videos of this magnificent brass model.

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html#TE1

Scott Mann - China

Scott, how about putting wings, vertical and horizontal stabilizers,  and engines on that container.

Ron

Just read notice that the Jawn Henrys have been inspected and load on their container which will arrive July 4th.  So there will be Christmas in July.

YABBA- DABBA-DOO!

The Jawn Henry is coming, the Jawn Henry is coming!  Just received notice from the carrier of choice that my package(Jawn Henry) is scheduled to ship 07/15/2013.

Soon the wait will be over.

Still waiting for my notice. The wait is driving me crazy. This is worse than watching paint dry!!!!

Mine's supposed to be at my front door Friday... where's the fast forward?

Got my tracking number. Due 7/22. 

Gilly

Just received notification from carrier that mine is awaiting pickup.  Need to get over there before crew heads for lunch at 1300hrs.

Will post picture later with C&O M-1 and Pennsy S2.

The 2-year and 8 1/2-month wait is over!  Just returned have not opened yet.  Surprised that box is not larger.  It measures 37 1/2-inches long with a 43-inch girth.  This is the shipping box.

The actual model's box is 32 1/2-inches long with a 31 1/2-inch girth.  Unpacking this beast was a real exercise. Trouble now will be packing it back up to store for a while.

The beast is FANTASTIC beyond my greatest expectations!

ONE possibly Two PROBLEMS, The draw bar is bent past a "L" shape starting to approach a "C" shape.  Also the boss that the draw bar is mount to under rear of loc itself appears to be also bent forward. I will take time Saturday or Sunday to remove draw bar and check it out.  Also see that the ladder on rear bulkhead appears mashed against the bulkhead.  These are probably all metal pieces so they can be straighten.

Shots with snap shot camera.

Packaging.

Fill 40-inch Atlas track.

Bent draw bar.  Look behind tether connector.

Mashed ladder.

Some perspective until I can get all three engines on a display track.

The box on bottom MTH C&O M-1.  The Jawn Henry box is resting on my Lionel Pennsy S2 box.

 Shot of shipping damage from other side.

The more I look at this model the more fantastic it is.  Sure am glade I pulled the trigger.

Today (Sunday) I disassembled the draw bar assembly.  The mount is not a boss but made of sheet stock and will be easily reshaped.  But am NOT sure about the draw bar itself.  The color seems darker then brass sheet stock.  Am concerned that bent so far that the metal flow on either side of the "neutral plane of sheer" may have induced stress risers.  If so even if straight-enable it may be too fatigued and eventually break.

Scoot and I are in contact.

Hand held pic of mangled draw bar.

You must be further into the woods than I am!!!!! 8/22????

Just checked tracking - it's on the front porch.  I'm at work walking out the door.

Well, who's got their one and can post a review/photos? I won't see mine until tomorrow.

It's couple hours later... it's unwrapped, nothing bent or broken.  It was VERY securely packaged.  I agree with PRRronbh - it's unbelievable.  You'll have to scroll up to see the photos he added to his post from yesterday.

I haven't fired it up, yet - may not for a while.  I'm just savoring the moment.  You gotta be impressed unless you're one of those "enhanced beings" who's bored by all things terrestrial...

The Turbines-the real STEAM TURBINEs modeled.

All the rear couplers were lineup for this shot.  The TE-1 is about 1 1/2-inches longer than the C&O M-1.  The M-1 is about 7 1/2-inches longer than S2.

UP-DATES:

Originally I estimated (guested) that the TE-1 was about 1 1/2-inches longer than the M-1.  Scaling the MTH M-1 fines it to be near dead on.  Since my drawbar is a curlicue I took the time to position the tender at correctly scale distance. This all results in the TE-1 being about 2 1/4-inches longer.

I fashioned some "tools" from Popsicle sticks using a very (as it should be) sharp chisel and round toothpicks.  Reshaped the ladder without any breakage.  Now the smash is out of the mashed ladder.  Was also able to reshape the drawbar using correct metal working techniques to almost flat but fear that working the hooked end would result in breakage.  Plus since no longer have access to a metallurgical lab with polishing abilities and high powered microscopes can not verify if any cracking has been induced.  So will just have to wait for new drawbar before pulling any kind of consist.

Soon will test run engine.  

Up-date to up-date:

Found my special parallel action pliers (they were where they should be)  so was also able to reshape the drawbar mounting bracket.   

Getting reports of the drawbar getting bent up in shipping. Ladders too. UPS is so rough on these models.

Factory will make some fresh parts ASAP, so if you need parts, we will have them.

At your service.

Scott Mann

That is why I and so many others are loyal to Sunset/3rd Rail/Golden Gate Depot.

Your personal record is awarded ten merits for immediate response and customer service.

I second those comments. I also have the crunched drawbar issue, which Scott addressed the same day - indeed same hour - I raised it yesterday (Sunday).

My TE-1 arrived with the bent draw bar.

The bracket that holds the draw bar also looks bent 

The bracket that holds the draw bar is held in with

2 screws so it is not difficult to replace when 3rd Rail

gets the parts.

Well this thread has been very helpful. Instead of OH CR@^!, it's more like "OK so mine's bent too". We'll deal with it. Otherwise it looks perfect!

Same deal, need a replacement drawbar and mounting bracket.

Gilly

Think of the flexible drawbar as an extra spring at one end of the TE-1 protecting it from damage. The factory is making spare parts now and we should have them in about 10 days. In the mean time, bend your's back and play with the model. Make sure all else is working as it should. 

Enjoy,

Scott Mann

I just got mine in at 6:00 PM.  No damage at all!  Words can't describe it!  It is humungous! Scott, I congratulate you and all of the people who worked on this project.  It was worth the wait.  The one I had home built is nothing like this.  But we didn't have access to good plans or sophisticated equipment.  I am going to oil it up and put it on the track for a test run-no cars. FANTASTIC!!!!!

I've just oiled the beast and put her on the track, running real slowly.  By the way, mine is the 2-rail version and doesn't have the drawbar, but a coupler like the real thing. NWHS Archives documents has around 40 pictures of the Jawn, some in the erecting shop at Baldwin, with photos of the cab, inside the shell as they were building it.  This is where I saw hots of Jawn pulling mixed freight.  There are a few color pictures as well.  I may or may not lightly weather her, as the early photos show a fairly clean locomotive with a little grime on the trucks.  This thing is very heavy, especially for a brass import-all muscle!

Just arrived at 5:22 today.............................

I ran mine for the first time yesterday. Visually it is singularly impressive, almost more for the tender detail and lighting than anything else.

However I wonder what others make of the extra sound effect that 3rd Rail have added. This is a turbine sound that comes on whenever there is power to the track and seems to be coupled with some mechanical (not recorded) sound from the front of the engine like a fan or gear mechanism spinning. Mine also seems to have some background static and I am not sure what it's meant to add to the overall effect. I'm wondering whether the speaker is not completely insulated from the frame it sits on - but I'm not going to take off the body shell just yet!

Sans the drawbar I tested the BEAST on 80-inches of track.  It ran silk smooth without being lubed.  Did connect tender tether verifying coupler and lights work.

But have a problem with the sound I hear.  Sent email to Scott waiting for reply.

Ron 

What is your sound issue? Is it the sound from the 3rd Rail turbine board in the front of the engine? 

Also, it has to be borne in mind that this engine like a lot of recent 3rd Rail models has he manual volume control installed backwards so that you have to turn it in the opposite direction from that shown on the label to get the sound up or down. Up is counterclockwise on my T-1.

They sound fantastic guys... bring on the pictures! 

I remember the day you would pay up to 3,000 dollars for a HO brass engine and still have to add lights, re-motor, re gear, and remove any drive train binding in it. Some were not even painted!

Its a shame though that the shipping beats these things up so bad... works of art.

I received a reply from Scott which resulted in the proverbial "AH-HA" moment.

I now need some testing/checkout time which will do early this afternoon.  

Will report back here in this post of results.

Ron 

The Ah-Ha moment fizzled out.  Waiting on a reply from Scott on another email.

Well, if you say what the sound problem is someone here on the forum may be able to help.

I'm not asking out of morbid curiosity; I am not sure the sound on mine matches what I have heard on 3rd Rail's own test run video, which is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TUFxL1QlIo

or their other video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nk0bVX-lbU

It's the extra sound 3rd Rail have added, heard from a speaker at the front of the engine, that has me wondering.

In my case it appears that I am only getting the sounds from the RS sound of a prime mover.  I am getting absolutely NO "whooshing" sounds and nothing from what appears to be a small speaker in the front.  

 And yes mine sounds nothing like the videos.  Only sounds like a diesel.

Since there does not appear to be a way to turn the front speaker sounds up (or off) I would suspect a bad connection to it or something loose on the board that drives it. But since I have not opened my engine up to check how that part of the electronics is connected and configured that's only a guess.

I have had a couple of sound problems with recent 3rd Rail engines (two E7s and the GS4) but these were fairly easily resolved. They were connection issues (pinched wire, bad fitting of the speaker to the chassis and one that cured itself when I took the tender shell off and moved the wires around). 

Good luck and please post your eventual diagnosis and cure!

Scoot has replied to latest email.  Based on my email and post here he thinking problem with secondary sound board and is sending a replacement.

When I was in unit today to remove 9v battery, saw no loose wires.  The Beast is a beast to reassemble.

I weathered the trucks and firebox of my Jawn Henry with Floquil grimy black so it would look like the pictures taken in Clare and Chilicothe, Ohio in Sept., 1954, when it was still fairly new.  You can see the detail better with grimy black. I left the body alone as it was a flat/ dull black in these 2 pictures.  I am happy with the results.

Robert, could you please post a picture of that?  I've never weathered ANYTHING, but I've been thinking about this exact thing for mine (and I'd practice before taking the plunge!).  Those trucks are too nice not to be highlighted.  Thanks in advance!

I don't have internet on my cell phone.  Look at NWHS Archives Documents for Jawn Henry and look at the pictures of Chilicothe and Clare, Ohio. You will see what it looks like. Get a small bottle of Floquil grimy black and a very small brush.  Shake up the bottle and put the coat on lightly over the trucks, span bolsters, pilot, rear deck and firebox.  When painting the trucks, avoid the springs.  Do the same for the tender.  You don't have to touch the body. This will give the appearance of Jawn in his early days-late 1954, when the water treatment apparatus on the tender was exposed.  The scratch built Jawn Henry was painted the same way. This is on Facebook under my photos-my profile picture.

Thank you, Robert.  I'll look into all that and your FB pics.  Still on the fence, but we'll see...

Me? Im jealous! And after seeing the real thing, and then wishing for one to be made in 3-rail for thirty years, my deceased Grandpa is pushin on the lid of his coffin right now. So if a walking corpse shows up on some ones doorstep screaming Jawn instead of brains, be nice and just distract him with a FM Trainmaster, Mikado, Santa Fe E unit, or something till I can get there. Thanks.