Is anybody aware if Lionel plans to show at either of these meets ?
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Nope, but it doesn't change my plans to go to York.
I can't understand how 1 manufacturer/dealer not being there makes the difference of going or not going to York.
This should be moved to the York forum.
Lionel will be at the Rocky Mountain Train show April 1st and 2nd. Come out and enjoy a plate of Rocky Mountain Oysters !
Don’t think you will see them next month, maybe in October 2023.
Still won’t change my plans on attending York.
@Billyboy posted:Is anybody aware if Lionel plans to show at either of these meets ?
Don't know but it doesn't change my plans to go to York.
Stu
I will still go, but I have to say, it's pretty sad that they can't bother to come to what is billed as the largest TCA event. The dealer hall is getting pretty sparce... The last 3 the member halls have out shined the dealer halls. Lots of missing dealers and manufacturers.
@CHOO-CHOO MIKE posted:Lionel will be at the Rocky Mountain Train show April 1st and 2nd. ...
@Berg posted:I will still go, but I have to say, it's pretty sad that they can't bother to come to what is billed as the largest TCA event. The dealer hall is getting pretty sparce... The last 3 the member halls have out shined the dealer halls. Lots of missing dealers and manufacturers.
Lionel's presence has no bearing on my attendance or enjoyment of York. However, their absence says to me that they take the buyers of their high dollar items for granted. IMO, a manufacturer's presence at an event like York is about more building awareness and goodwill than short term profits. I drive farther to get to York than Lionel does, and yet they're planning to go 2000 miles west... Not a good look.
The LCCA will be there in the ORANGE HALL ROW KK-7. We will have lots of club product and Lionel.
SAL GAMBINO/PRESIDENT
@clem k posted:I does one preregister for York ? I have not got anything in the mail.
The mailing of meet notices seems very unreliable lately. I didn't get one, but I preregistered at the meet in October (that's the easiest way).
Googling it led me to https://www.yorkregistration.org/
@Mallard4468 posted:Lionel's presence has no bearing on my attendance or enjoyment of York. However, their absence says to me that they take the buyers of their high dollar items for granted. IMO, a manufacturer's presence at an event like York is about more building awareness and goodwill than short term profits. I drive farther to get to York than Lionel does, and yet they're planning to go 2000 miles west... Not a good look.
Maybe Lionel is tired of York. 
Is it Lionel that doesn't want to go to York or York not wanting Lionel?
How come Lionel always gets the blame here? I see a lot of dealers and some other manufacturers not attending but that doesn't seem to draw the ire of this group like Lionel. I'm sure they have their reasons for not attending and as others have pointed out it doesn't change my going or not. The only way it affects me is if I need to see if I can get a Legacy meeting going.
Lionel is nice to see but they aren’t selling anything. A bigger loss was Scenic Express attending after they moved out west. They had tons of great stuff for sale.
@MartyE posted:Is it Lionel that doesn't want to go to York or York not wanting Lionel?
How come Lionel always gets the blame here? I see a lot of dealers and some other manufacturers not attending but that doesn't seem to draw the ire of this group like Lionel. I'm sure they have their reasons for not attending and as others have pointed out it doesn't change my going or not. The only way it affects me is if I need to see if I can get a Legacy meeting going.
Less dealers due to BUILT TO ORDER, dealers don't have the excess inventory they once had.
@Arthur posted:Less dealers due to BUILT TO ORDER, dealers don't have the excess inventory they once had.
Why would that be? If the dealer orders 20 locomotives, whether BTO or not, what difference does that make? Mr. Muffin, TW, Pat's and others are always ordering excess above what they have orders for. They basically are just adding to the numbers built. All that it means is Lionel doesn't have an excess sitting at the warehouse.
Lionel is tired of people complaing about spending thousands for inferior products that don’t provide details we pay for.
@MartyE posted:Why would that be? If the dealer orders 20 locomotives, whether BTO or not, what difference does that make? Mr. Muffin, TW, Pat's and others are always ordering excess above what they have orders for. They basically are just adding to the numbers built. All that it means is Lionel doesn't have an excess sitting at the warehouse.
Not enough excess stock to make the trip to York worthwhile, can easily sell what they have on-line. That's why no more Trainland, Charles Ro, etc.
"Lionel is tired of people complaing about spending thousands for inferior products that don’t provide details we pay for."
You must be buying the wrong Lionel products 
. Mine are much less expensive than yours and somehow really quite nice. My details are fine too.
You guys have it wrong. The reason Lionel & Trainworld are not going to York is, they don't want to spend the money it cost them to go. They have to come with 3 or 4 people, put them up in a hotel for several days, and feed them.
