Hello Everyone!

I thought it might be helpful to start a 3rd Rail Wishlist thread so that we can have a place to state our requests for future Sunset engines!

I know we all have our favorite engines, and railroads, and I just want to say no matter what my personal favorites may be...  it's nice to see everyone's wishes for what they would like 3rd Rail to make, and I'm all for seeing rare, and new cool steam engines being done. 

My vote, would be for something never before done in O scale...

How about an O scale ATSF 5000 Class Madame Queen?  It could be offered in as built, and in later versions... 

What engines would you like Sunset to make? MQ-1--web-site_c1bf0729-5056-a36f-23bc04c99bcf700b

 

 

Attachments

Photos (1)
Original Post

An Erie K-5-A Pacific would be great for pulling around a set of Golden Gate Depot passenger cars, but any Erie K-1 through K-5 variant would be much appreciated by Erie fans. 

I think there has only been one previous Erie Pacific offering by Max Gray models, but it must be pretty rare because I have yet to actually see one.

Erie loco NJ6899382429_acf1125005_b

Attachments

Photos (2)
WITZ 41 posted:

I love wish lists, but they all suffer from the same problem:

A  hundred locomotives that two or three people want instead of two or three locomotives that a hundred people want.

That's often true.... But if more people chime in, as is the point of the thread, we may have something nice for Scott and gang to see what we would like...

Well here's a bit of an off the wall suggestion, but how about the Amtrak E60 and E60MA?

We have only had the semi scale Williams engine offered in O gauge, and I belive that neither MTH or Lionel will want to tool up for what is a regionally popular locomotive, which would make it a good candidate for Scott to offer.

It would also go nicely with his scale Amfleet cars due out soon. 

Here are some sample photos I found in various searches as I have been collecting photos for a modeling project, but they are not mine.

The E60 as delivered in 1975: 

image

The Rebuilt E60MA in phase 3 paint:imageimage

They were also used by New Jersey Transit, NdeM of Meixco, and the Black Mesa and Lake Powell Railroad. 

M. J. Breen

 

TCA 15-71060

LCCA 40229

 

"May the Schwartz be with you" 

Attachments

Photos (3)

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought 15 C-16a's; numbers 240-254. They were classed as SB retaining the same numbers.

In 1954 C&O donated 18 to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought 30 C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and also retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique welded tender. The "USRA" 0-8-0s previously offered don't come close.

0 8 0_1

 

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

Attachments

Photos (1)

I would like a GP9 with their fantastic single motor drive for diesels.    I am also hoping for a second run of the Alco PAs.

Realistically, our requests should go to sunset, not OGR forum.     And a word to the wise, if they do announce something, you have to reserve it, otherwise, no build.    They build to order.

 

I'm still in for C&O / NYC "Super Makido's".

Once again that being C&O's having the flying front pumps on the smoke box,  pilot mounted head/marker lights, and both tenders, Vanderbilt 12 wheeled, and the long 12 wheeled tender that was used on the Kanawha 2700's.

Then the NYC "H10's a/b/c's, with their version of the 12 wheeled tender........Richard Leonard has some beautiful pictures, of these engines.

Both versions have a mega amount of pipe work, and in most opinions, what all of the Makido's should have looked like...

!

Gilly@N&W posted:

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought the C-16a's. They bought 15, numbers 240-254; classed as SB, also retaining the same numbers. In 1954 18 were donated to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought the C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique tender.

0 8 0_1

 

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

Joe

Norton posted:

My request is quite simple. No new dies needed nor maybe even different paint. Just reverse the late colors for the early colors.

NYC EMD E7

Pete

We did this paint scheme in the 2nd run in 2012.  They show up on eVilbay from time to time.

Jonathan

 

VintageClassics posted:
WITZ 41 posted:

I love wish lists, but they all suffer from the same problem:

A  hundred locomotives that two or three people want instead of two or three locomotives that a hundred people want.

That's often true.... But if more people chime in, as is the point of the thread, we may have something nice for Scott and gang to see what we would like...

Happy to chime in.  I just need 99 more of you to chime in too!  I already talked to Scott about it.  He's not optimistic after offering and cancelling the earlier 3 cylinder version.  Only the SP version was made.  However, I would posit that the late version would have more interest due to period of operation 1942-1954 during steam's zenith.

Like many unique Union Pacific power it's been done in HO but never in O.  UP 4-10-2 (late) #5090-5099.  They used oil tenders converted from the 9000 series.  After being simplified to 2 cylinder operation in 1942 they ran as late as 1954 on the Cajon pass.  Big, Brutish, and Beautiful.

#5097 would be the must have cab number.  It survived in operation the longest.

 DSC08243~4

up4-10-2

UP 4-10-2

The Streamliner Vol. 7 No. 1 has some great photos and info on the 4-10-2s in it's discussion of the Cajon Pass....

The Streamliner Vol. 7 No. 1 CoverThe Streamliner Vol.7 No. 1 pg. 20The Streamliner Vol.7 No.1 back Cover

but alas, there only seems to be a market for more Hudsons or another F3/F7........I'll take my singular wishes and go cry tears of self pity, by myself, curled up in the corner now.....

Attachments

Photos (6)
Gilly@N&W posted:
Joe Congemi posted

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

The K1 is on my short list too. Along with the Z1b. Since this 0-8-0 was common to C&O, VGN, and N&W I had hoped that it would have a better chance of being produced.

N&W guys,

I would be interested in any of those steamers, too.  I know this was an engine tread, but how about getting some of these done so our engines have some accurate hoppers to pull?  I would love to see Scott do either  one or both in plastic:

 

H9

h10

 

 

 

"Moreover, experience proves that there is virtually no limit to the amount of cars, track, equipment, etc., the scale model railroader will buy once you have planted the "system" idea in his head. The more he has, the more he still wants." A.C. Gilbert Co. - 1947

Attachments

Photos (2)
The GN Man posted:

Northern Pacific W-3 Mikado 

Scott tried the W-3 and the W-5 probably 10 years ago, could not get the minimum number to make it happen.   

I was very surprised when Scott announced the CB&Q O-1a and that project moved forward. 

Regards,

GNNPNUT

If there is anything that will get me to spend the money on a 3rd rail locomotive it would be this:

 

My favorite stories from my grandfather's time on the SP were when the first ones came through Englewood Yard in Houston on the way to California.  His eyes always were lit up when telling it.  These wild locomotives from Germany were apparently the talk of the SP system when they first arrived.

With the beautiful job 3rd Rail did with the SD7/SD9, a logical follow-on using most of the superstructure tooling would be the SD18/SD24/ATSF SD26/UP SD24b.

Another one would be the EMC BB-1800 Box cabs -- ATSF Class1, EMC Demonstrator, B&O, and CB&Q. The problem is you have four distinct superstructures with this locomotive class.

 

Matt Jackson
"The best service you can provide for the hobby is to pass on what you have learned."

 Angels Gate Hi-Railers San Pedro, California

"Celebrating over 20 years of moving freight and passengers from Point A to Point A!"
E-mail

YouTube Channel

Joe Congemi posted:
Gilly@N&W posted:

A major gap in 3 Rail N&W locomotives is the S1a. The S1a was a 0-8-0 and was used by other railroads as well.  

The C&O's most common switcher engine was the class C-16 0-8-0.  The C-16a was manufactured in 1942 by Lima. They were numbered 240-254. The C-16b was manufactured by Baldwin in 1948. They were numbered 255-284. 

The Virginian Railway bought the C-16a's. They bought 15, numbers 240-254; classed as SB, also retaining the same numbers. In 1954 18 were donated to the Korean National Railway.

The Norfolk & Western bought the C-16b's; numbers 255-284. They were classed as S-1 and retained the same road numbers. Improvements made by the N&W included over-fire air jets, a second air pump, and changes to the walkways.

The N&W then "cloned" these; producing the S1a numbers 200-244. Cab #244 holds the distinction of being the last steam locomotive built for an American Class 1 railroad. As such, it is a significant locomotive in the history of steam. 

Note the unique tender.

0 8 0_1

 

This is a locomotive that should appeal to C&O, VGN, and N&W fans.  Please consider offering additional tenders for separate sale with the various road names.

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

Me three!

CSX Troy posted:
Gilly@N&W posted:
Joe Congemi posted

I second that Tom. I'd also like to see 3rd Rail do an N&W K1. They've done and K3 and K2a before so it would seem a logical choice.

The K1 is on my short list too. Along with the Z1b. Since this 0-8-0 was common to C&O, VGN, and N&W I had hoped that it would have a better chance of being produced.

N&W guys,

I would be interested in any of those steamers, too.  I know this was an engine tread, but how about getting some of these done so our engines have some accurate hoppers to pull?  I would love to see Scott do either  one or both in plastic:

 

H9

I would like to see these hoppers too. I think someone has done them in brass, BUT, who the heck can afford to build a train of $300+ hoppers?

As a post WWII and PRR runner, I realize I have a lot of steam to choose from.  However, if 3rd Rail decided to do another PRR steamer these are my choices in order of preference:

-B8a.  A 0-6-0T converted from B8 shifters.  Nice small engine that lasted into 50s.

-K5.  Two were built and they lasted into the 50s.

-K2.  242 K2/K3 were built, and only one K2 remained in 1949.  But that is my era so I'd buy it.

-N2sa.  Don't really need another large engine, but this one is missing from all manufacturers' lineups.  While this was initially a USRA design, all were rebuilt with Belpaire fireboxes starting in 1923.  I would only buy the rebuilt version.

The only diesel I want is a Phase II or Phase III F3 ABA (Phase II early would be great).  Not interested in Phase I, Phase IV or F5.  Right now 3rd Rail's web site states only the Phase IV will be made, probably using some of their F7 tooling.  

Ron

 

TCA, TTOS, NCT, LCCA, PRRT&HS

 

Volunteers don't get paid, not because they are worthless, but because they are priceless!  Author Sherry Anderson

Lionel16 posted:

I would like to see Lehigh Valley 4-8-4 Wyoming Class done in 3-rail.  To my knowledge, this engine has never been built in O scale.

 

LV 4-8-4

Definitely would love to see some Lehigh Valley steam... in addition to all the great requests, this one is fantastic. 

Add Reply

Post
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

www.ogaugerr.com
×
×
×
×
×