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Are you ever in a NY state of mind (Billy Joel)?

I am almost always.

The New Haven ran through NY State. Here are LC+ New Haven FAs hauling box cars through My Little Town (Paul Simon):

Whenever you are in as NY state of mind, you go post your photos, videos and comments about anything related to model railroading and NY here.

Arnold

 

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Sure:  (sorry it's not on rails, but this is a pic I took a few years ago when I asked for Forum feedback on where this car came from - turns out it was from a Bloomingdale's starter set.  The more common one that was offered as a stand-alone piece of rolling stock was white instead of this blue background that makes it look like nighttime, along with the lights in the skyline that were not present in the other car)

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Greetings Arnold, of all people, you're asking a Dallas born Texan if he is ever in a New York state of mind?  Fact: I was raised on my grandparents little farm north of Dallas in Farmers Branch.  A couple miles north, The Katy, Frisco, and Cotton Belt crossed each other on a unique three way crossing at Carrollton.  Until replaced by automatic interlocking, it was protected by Tower 77.  As a kid in 1951 I well remember Katy steam on the Denton Branch which ran near the farm. 

But back to New York, I almost forgot what you asked.  How silly of me. There's no place in the universe that can beat New York, New York!  But hey, I like all of the railroads of the Northeast.  MELGAR asked if the Long Island counts?  You bet it does!  Once upon a time in the Northeast, it was even part of the Late Great PENNSYLVANIA RAILROAD, and like the Strasburg Rail Road that operates in the Keystone State, the "Rail Road" in Long Island is two words and not combined!

When I die, and meet my Maker, I want to board the Heavenly Express.  I'll travel First Class all the way.  It will depart on that secret underground track below Grand Central Station and will stop at the Roundhouse in the Sky, that's found just beyond the Big Rock Candy Mountains, where I will detrain.  There I will be greeted by all the railroaders, railfans, and model railroaders, who have befriended me during my lifetime here on Earth.  I hope to see y'all there too, you hear?

In these troubled times, please PRAY FOR PEACE, ON EARTH, GOOD WILL, TOWARDS MAN!  We're all in this together and must symbolically hold hands and give thanks that we will endure without another terrible world war that can, in fact, destroy all human life on this planet.  We owe it to our children and their children's children as well! 

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Joe

 

 

 

Arnold, 

This topic has made me one happy fellow!

Considering most of my engines and rolling stock are from The Central, I think these photos of my favorite engines belong here...

Bryce

Bryce, as much as I love NY, I also love NJ. Throughout my life, I've had some of my best times in NJ at LBI (Long Beach Island) and at the former sprawling split level home on 5 acres of my aunt and uncle in Pennington, NJ.

I am also an admirer of the Jersey Central RR, particularly the Blue Comet. Arnold

@BOB WALKER posted:

It would be interesting to have a "California State of Mind", but we are too busy fighting forest fires!

Bob, you can start a California State of Mind Forum topic, and post photos of your favorite models of trains from railroads that have had their rights of way through the great State of California, like the Santa Fe, Southern Pacific, etc.. 

Here's another idea. If you have any figures of beautiful women, say in O Scale, you can borrow from the Beach Boys great song,  California Girls: "I wish they all could be California girls." LOL, Arnold

 

@MELGAR posted:

Any place called The Empire State that gives Regents Exams must be OK.

MELGAR

Oh yes, the Regents Exams, I remember those. Though my railroading interests skew west, I grew up in New York. Here’s a former depot not far from my childhood home. I have no memory of the tracks that once came through here, but believe this once stood on a Boston and Albany line. 

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Always... my family's house in Syracuse is most regrettably no longer mine,  but it will never cease to be my home.

Great memories of the 4 track Water Level route, just west of the E. Syracuse Yard;  great memories of several long gone  O gauge train layouts,  Go Saltine Warriors....  oops!...  Go Orange....  [more politically correct these days!].

Oh yes, the Regents Exams, I remember those. Though my railroading interests skew west, I grew up in New York. Here’s a former depot not far from my childhood home. I have no memory of the tracks that once came through here, but believe this once stood on a Boston and Albany line. 

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That looks like the Mellenville station between Ghent and Here is a photo that I took of it in 2015.  Also a google satellite view of the area.  Your photos are summer time while mine are in the fall with leaves gone from the trees.

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That looks like the Mellenville station between Ghent and Here is a photo that I took of it in 2015.  Also a google satellite view of the area.  Your photos are summer time while mine are in the fall with leaves gone from the trees.

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I just did a bit more checking.  Look in Google for Mellenville Grange and you will see a photo that shows that sign on the building.  It's on the national register of historic places.  What was your home town ?

I took my photos on a tour of the B&A's Hudson Branch to get some photos of all points of interest between Ghent and Hudson.  also the Harlem between Ghent and Hillsdale.

Yes, it’s in Mellenville, NY, a tiny Hamlet in the town of Claverack. It’s where I grew up. In my first photo one can see the Mellenville Grange sign on the building. The line that ran through here connected Hudson and Ghent and then I assume the Village of Chatham just past Ghent. Just a little further east From Mellenville, another line came up from the south through the bordering Village of Philmont and ran on to Chatham. I not only remember that line, which made stops in Philmont, but rode it twice around 1969 or 70.

In their day these little New York villages were classic northeast textile industry mill towns. Practically cities in miniature, they featured hotels, department stores, theaters and of course large brick mills. Philmont had five mills and even an opera house standing next to the tracks along its upper Main Street. The vibrancy of the Empire State owed as much to these interconnected cities and textile towns as to metropolitan New York City  

Almost all of that is gone now. The decline was well underway, if not close to complete, when I lived there. It’s only accelerated since. To get some sense what these places were like at their 19th and early 20th century Industrial Age zenith now requires a little looking. But one can see the footings of old mills, the places where tracks once ran, and repurposed railroad buildings, like this Grange Hall, standing as reminders of a different time when little northeastern towns were economically and civically vibrant and railroads connected it all.

RM

I interpreted the title of this thread a little differently. Over the years I have posted a few pictures of my New York Central motive power. Rather than more of that here are some pics of my hometown.

Before the nationwide fast food places there was a chain of diners called DECO in the Buffalo, NY and Erie County area. Now long gone.

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Teds Hots started in the early 20's and while Ted is gone his restaurants all over western New York today. Try a foot long with the works if you are ever in the area.

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I spent many a Saturday here.

Kenmore

Growing up steam had already moved west but passenger service was provided by these.

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Pete

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Yes, it’s in Mellenville, NY, a tiny Hamlet in the town of Claverack. It’s where I grew up. In my first photo one can see the Mellenville Grange sign on the building. The line that ran through here connected Hudson and Ghent and then I assume the Village of Chatham just past Ghent. Just a little further east From Mellenville, another line came up from the south through the bordering Village of Philmont and ran on to Chatham. I not only remember that line, which made stops in Philmont, but rode it twice around 1969 or 70.

In their day these little New York villages were classic northeast textile industry mill towns. Practically cities in miniature, they featured hotels, department stores, theaters and of course large brick mills. Philmont had five mills and even an opera house standing next to the tracks along its upper Main Street. The vibrancy of the Empire State owed as much to these interconnected cities and textile towns as to metropolitan New York City  

Almost all of that is gone now. The decline was well underway, if not close to complete, when I lived there. It’s only accelerated since. To get some sense what these places were like at their 19th and early 20th century Industrial Age zenith now requires a little looking. But one can see the footings of old mills, the places where tracks once ran, and repurposed railroad buildings, like this Grange Hall, standing as reminders of a different time when little northeastern towns were economically and civically vibrant and railroads connected it all.

RM

That line was the B&A's Hudson Branch.  It was part of the former Hudson & Berkshire Railroad built in 1838 from Hudson through Chatham to State Line and West Stockbridge.  That was the first railroad ever built eastward from a point on the Hudson River.  It was acquired by the B&A predecessor, Western Railroad, in 1854.  It had its own line between Chatham and State Line on an alignment now mostly covered by the thruway Extension.  In 1842, the Western's own line through the tunnel was completed and the original Chatham-State Line route was abandoned when the Western acquired it in 1854.

The branch between Ghent and Hudson is shown in B&A ETT's until 1957, but not in 1958.  In 1960, the Hudson Div TT shows the line between Hudson and Claverack, retained only because of the cement plant.  IT looks as if the Claverack-Ghent section was abandoned in 1957-58.

The parallel tracks between Chatham and Ghent were combined under Harlem division jurisdiction before 1940.

I'm writing and organizational and geographic history of the NYC beginning with the B&A.  The B&A part will appear on the NYC groups.io list sometime this fall.

Malcolm Laughlin

I'm writing and organizational and geographic history of the NYC beginning with the B&A.  The B&A part will appear on the NYC groups.io list sometime this fall.

Malcolm Laughlin

Malcolm,

Please let me know when your B&A work is available.

I guess a Boston & Albany locomotive counts as one-half New York. The B&A did once have a line between Chatham and Hudson, New York, but that's not where this engine ran.

MELGAR

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@Norton posted:

I interpreted the title of this thread a little differently. Over the years I have posted a few pictures of my New York Central motive power. Rather than more of that here are some pics of my hometown.

Before the nationwide fast food places there was a chain of diners called DECO in the Buffalo, NY and Erie County area. Now long gone.

cafe1crop

Teds Hots started in the early 20's and while Ted is gone his restaurants all over western New York today. Try a foot long with the works if you are ever in the area.

teds3crop

I spent many a Saturday here.

Kenmore

Growing up steam had already moved west but passenger service was provided by these.

budds

Pete

 Excellent scenes Pete.  Let's see some more PLEASE'...😀👍

@MELGAR posted:

Malcolm,

Please let me know when your B&A work is available.

I guess a Boston & Albany locomotive counts as one-half New York. The B&A did once have a line between Chatham and Hudson, New York, but that's not where this engine ran.

MELGAR

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They must have made their first moves in New York State, but probably dead in train and not under steam.  From the Alco plant in Schenectady to Selkirk Yard and then in a B&A train to Boston.

Arnold, Penn Central?  Sure, why not?  Of course I imagine that the merger that created PC didn't make a lot of New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroad railfans become friends with each other?

Item: Utica, New York, was the birthplace of the late Annette Funicello of Mickey Mouse Club and beach party fame.  She was born on October 22, 1942.  Sadly she contracted MS and passed away several years ago.  I was born in 1946 and grew up in the 50s with beautiful black and white TV and never missed watching the MMC as well as the mini-series Annette which was released in 1958 and aired on the MMC.  Annette also made a guest appearence in the Walt Disney series Zorro which aired on TV during thos period too.  She sang a beautiful song written for her to sing in the series, "Lonely Guitar" which in my opinion really brought out her talent.

It shouldn't be forgotten, that Walt Disney was himself a well known railfan and operated a live steam railroad at his residence.  There have been countless models produced over the years that featured Disney charactures, many in O gauge.  Perhaps a new post featuring Disney models would be interesting and entertaining for OGR readers?  

 

Trinity River Bottoms Boomer, I think a Disney Forum topic related to model railroading is a good idea.

Below are two of my favorite locomotives in action: an MTH Railking Proto 3 NY Central RS3 and an LC+ Erie Camelback:

I believe they both have connections to NY. It's ovious that the NY Central diesel is, but I'm not sure about the Erie Camelback. I believe the the town or city of Erie is in both NY and PA. Arnold

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Arnold having never been to New York (nor want to go there). I am not sure I would ever have a New York State of Mind But I do have a great New York memory and that as a child my Pittsburgh Pirates beat the Bronx Bombers in the 1960 World  Series does that count? 

Oh yes, Rick, it counts. That memory has a powerful connection to NY.

How time flies. It seems like only yesterday when Bill Mazeroski's home run flew over Yogi Berra's head and the Forbes Field ivy covered left field wall in the 7th game of the 1960 World Series. That broke virtually every New Yorker's heart, including this New Yorker's 8 year old heart that day.

From the agony of defeat  for New Yorkers came the thrill of victory for Pennsylvanians and the other Puttsburgh Pirate fans. Now, I'm glad that you, Mark Boyce and all of the other Forum members who are Pirate fans were able to celebrate that day, and continue to have triumphant memories of that day. Arnold

Dave, the New Haven definitely belongs on this thread. Although primarily a New England railroad, it had a strong presence in NY. I fondly remember taking the New Haven train with my mother from the downtown Mt. Vernon, NY station to Grand Central Station during my childhood.

I rode the NH (well PC by the time that I rode) from North Kingston, RI to NYC several times when I was stationed at NAS Quonset Point.

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