I just love that C&NW green w/yellow stripe scheme! I think it all hails back to receiving a set like this one on Christmas morning, 1962:

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When I unwrapped my set and saw that spectacular box art (in its pristine glory at the time), my imagination was stirred by the artistic (and in my opinion, very dramatic) nighttime rendering of the lowly little C&N yard switcher.  I was hooked on model railroading for life!

Hm. Sorry for waxing nostalgic.

Merry Christmas! Hope all of you receive a ton of fun out of your new little AF Baldwins!

Andre

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poniaj posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:

I wish Lionel would invest in a new Scale BLW S12 switcher for Us O scalers.

And we S guys wish Lionel would invest in one tenth of their O line for US! 

 

How about a ‘Sharknose’, they had AAR type B trucks, would these be the same as on the current GP by Lionel, if so that cuts out new tooling costs.

Problem is they only had three operators from new but then they do fit in nicely era wise with other Flyer diesels.

 

Ukaflyer posted:
poniaj posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:

I wish Lionel would invest in a new Scale BLW S12 switcher for Us O scalers.

And we S guys wish Lionel would invest in one tenth of their O line for US! 

 

How about a ‘Sharknose’, they had AAR type B trucks, would these be the same as on the current GP by Lionel, if so that cuts out new tooling costs.

Problem is they only had three operators from new but then they do fit in nicely era wise with other Flyer diesels.

 

 

 

Original Shark owners were EJ&E (very briefly owned 4, I think they were sold to the B&O), B&O, NYC, and PRR. Monongahela bought a small fleet from NYC, and the last 2 of those went to the D&H. The D&H units are now tucked out of view in Michigan. Add in the demonstrator paint scheme and that's quite a few ways to decorate a shark (and Pennsy and NYC went through several different schemes as well).

MTN posted:
Ukaflyer posted:

 

How about a ‘Sharknose’, they had AAR type B trucks, would these be the same as on the current GP by Lionel, if so that cuts out new tooling costs.

Problem is they only had three operators from new but then they do fit in nicely era wise with other Flyer diesels.

 

 

 

Original Shark owners were EJ&E (very briefly owned 4, I think they were sold to the B&O), B&O, NYC, and PRR. Monongahela bought a small fleet from NYC, and the last 2 of those went to the D&H. The D&H units are now tucked out of view in Michigan. Add in the demonstrator paint scheme and that's quite a few ways to decorate a shark (and Pennsy and NYC went through several different schemes as well).

FYI: EJ&E bought the demos.

RF-16 EJ&E 701

I'm not gonna hold my breath for Sharks.

Rusty

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Happy for your Rich! They look great... REALLY like that GN!

BUT... yet another thing I'm a sucker for: GN power.

Every time I see one of ya'lls layouts that use track like you're using Rich, I think: "Why didn't I go that route?" back in my S scale attempt.

Andre

Every time I see one of ya'lls layouts that use track like you're using Rich, I think: "Why didn't I go that route?" back in my S scale attempt.

Andre

In a few more years when your fingers are not as nimble and your eyesight a little more fuzzy, maybe you'll be back! 

Rich

 

Make no mistake, Rich, scale S cars with select engine offerings, all w/Kadee's, operating on track like you're using would be a very do-able approach for many of us HO scalers.

As for me, I don't know if I would have the heart to start all over again with S, for I would be sick with regret when looking back at the pieces I had... but which of us truly know our futures, eh?

As for IF the day arrives that HO is too tedious and my hands/eyes are not cooperating to their fullest extent: Well, AT this POINT, my "Plan B" is that I would be interested in returning to "runners quality" traditional 3-rail with the bulk of it being readily available (and quite affordable) Postwar Lionel.

BUT for now... HO it is... and I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Andre

richabr posted:

 

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They sure can paint nice!

Rich

Fine paint jobs all.  I'll admit I was puzzled about the narrow stripe running along the hood, it's not something I've seen before in C&NW switcher photographs.  But lo and behold:

BLW DS4-4-660 C&NW 1260

Lionel got it right when the 1260 was fresh from the factory.

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I received my NorthWestern today and I noticed that the Manual was for a Baldwin Switcher however when I looked at it it did not have any mention of Flyerchief it only shows knuckle couplers and only transformer operation, there is no mention of electro coupler, are all of the Baldwins coming with the wrong manual?

I received my NorthWestern today and I noticed that the Manual was for a Baldwin Switcher however when I looked at it it did not have any mention of Flyerchief it only shows knuckle couplers and only transformer operation, there is no mention of electro coupler, are all of the Baldwins coming with the wrong manual?

Mine is as you described.

 

Rich

Thanks for the reply Rich. It does not matter just would wish Lionel would put a little more though into the American Flyer line, well getting a new American Flyer train for Christmas is great!

Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.

Thanks for the updates and photos.  Are the Baldwin's front and rear headlights directional?   Do the latest FCBT GP7's have dual motors?   A video of a Baldwin and a Geep would be great.  

Dave

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Thanks Rusty.  That sounds familiar now that you mention it.  Sorry to make for repeated onfo, but do I appreciate your refresher.  Does the Baldwin use tiny contact rollers or pw Flyer like pick-up shoes shown in the artist rendering of it in the last catalog?  Thanks. 

Dave

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Sgaugian posted:

Thanks Rusty.  That sounds familiar now that you mention it.  Sorry to make for repeated onfo, but do I appreciate your refresher.  Does the Baldwin use tiny contact rollers or pw Flyer like pick-up shoes shown in the artist rendering of it in the last catalog?  Thanks.

Sorry, I don't have one to examine, one of the guys that do can answer that.  However, I would guess seeing that the GP7 and Baldwin now share the same trucks, the Baldwin will have the rollers.

Rusty

I got home late last night and found my C&NW Baldwin waiting on my doorstep. Hooray!

Unfortunately, the sound system failed right away. If I turn the crew talk all the way to the left the sound disappears completely. By turning to the right all i get is a weak rumble. No bell, no horn, no crew talk. The sound switch is on. 

Unless anyone here has some ideas I guess it's back to Charles Ro. 

I also noted on my receipt from Ro a note that the Legacy Nickel Plate Berkshire and the Pere Marquette Berkshire (both on order) have been cancelled by Lionel. Bummer.

EDIT: I also noticed (like others) that my new Baldwin came with the "non-FlyerChief" instruction manual.

Craig Donath posted:

I also noted on my receipt from Ro a note that the Legacy Nickel Plate Berkshire and the Pere Marquette Berkshire (both on order) have been cancelled by Lionel. Bummer.

 

The Legacy Berks were cancelled at the end of September and discussed into October. 

Basically, they couldn't be built for the "too good to be true" MSRP.

Rusty

Thank you Rusty and Rich. The tiny rollers work OK on home layouts with very good to excellent track work. Those typically don't have much of a gap between any rail or track sections. Club layouts on the other hand can a different matter.  The tiny rollers sometime get caught in gaps of 1/8 of an inch or even larger.   

Dave

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x-Chief Wrench & Bottle-washer of Precision Flyer Repairs 

Santa did it right as my Baldwin arrived today and not on the 26th. 

As said earlier the manual inside the box was wrong.  I called Charles Ro and they said they had no other calls about the manual.  The Ro employee I talked to said that they would contact Lionel by week's end and find out about getting the right manual.  I tried calling Lionel but after waiting 20 minutes I gave up.

Now to try it on the layout!!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS 

Well, the Baldwin has a bad sound chip and I have called Charles Ro.  They will be sending me a FedX label so I can send it back.  When they get it they will send me a new engine.  DARN not Christmas present yet.

Anybody else had problems with this Baldwin?

I wrote my contact at Lionel and when he gets back to the office later in the week he is going to check on the manual situation and get a download manual set up.

Roundhouse Bill posted:

Well, the Baldwin has a bad sound chip and I have called Charles Ro.  They will be sending me a FedX label so I can send it back.  When they get it they will send me a new engine.  DARN not Christmas present yet.

Anybody else had problems with this Baldwin?

I wrote my contact at Lionel and when he gets back to the office later in the week he is going to check on the manual situation and get a download manual set up.

My Baldwin went back to Ro this morning with the "no sound" issue. I got a return authorization yesterday but wasn't offered a shipping label. It cost me $15.55 to ship it back. So much for the savings for early purchase. Oh, well. I just hope it comes back fixed. It's a fine looking engine.

I also mentioned to Ro about the wrong manual issue, but they didn't seem to say they were aware of the problem.  I suspect everyone is in the same boat. 

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