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Okay, I'm not talking about for the main trackwork on which locomotives (e.g.,'Dead Rail' battery-powered equipment) and rolling stock would be running on.

I'm talking about for, say, guard rails on bridges, trestles.  Maybe even making components for dummy turnouts to simulate sidings with a permanently parked car or two in a vignette.  Say, for an operating accessory that doesn't require an operating car to complement.

I'd like to see one of our plastic shapes providers...Plastruct, Evergreen, etc...provide, say, 3' lengths of extruded track rail in various NMRA code sizes...148, 138, 125, 100, etc.. even in a rust/oxidized color, which can be cut, formed, spiked, glued to existing track in multiple situations where 'dead rail' is appropriate.  Not only would pre-colored plastic rails in such situations be of real scenic value, but they would be wholly appropriate ensuring no possible electrical interplays.  And, I would expect for such applications a whole lot less expensive!!!  ABS or styrene.

The other day I was noticing all the bridges and trestles on the layout and the Gargraves track passing through them.  What was missing was the guard rails.  Now I know that GG sells 5-rail Trestle Track featuring two additional standard bright steel rails inserted to simulate guard rails.  But what about those of us who already have the regular track laid?  I can get metal rail, of course.  But really, there are a BUNCH of situations where metal rails are just not needed.

How about MOW cars/vignettes, requiring loads of rail, rail lying along existing right-of-way ready for replacement, maintenance?  Lineside racks of 39' rails...a common lineside sight through the early part of the last century.  Lots of other lineside equipment...station parking lot bumper posts, FI...made use of old rail.  How about for display tracks on the shelves, in display cases?  WWII military scenic vignettes involving railroads?  Maybe for an in-process rails-to-trails vignette...old track being taken up?

I could use at least 75' of code 148 rust-colored plastic rail right now.   I have a bazillion rail spikes from my dark-side HO days.  I'd have hours of pure enjoyment ahead just adding bridge/trestle guard rails to the layout as it stands.

Any extruders out there interested?

Have I missed the obvious?.....that this product already exists?  (If so, it's a well-kept secret to me!)

Just a few Monday thoughts to get the blood flowing...

KD

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How about reusing the plastic rails from cheap O or G size Battery sets.

Too much work to salvage.  Plus. not typically to any scale suitable for my needs.

Or use a cheap 3d printer to make your own rails.

Does beg the quesstion as to whether 3d can be created continuously while the finish product is being extracted at the same rate....i.e., continuous rail.

OTOH, I'm not geeky enough to master the computer-managed equipment, not interested in buying capital equipment for which I only have one immediate, short-term use, and I'd rather have one of our fine Made-In-America companies benefit a larger market than just moi.

BTW...   If you look at some of Plastruct's structural components...H, I, L, T, Z, U etc. cross-sections, for example..., IMHO they're extruded, then cut to retail lengths.  I don't see evidence of the cross-sections being machined.  Besides, there would be a terrific amount of waste plastic in machining, say, a 1/2" H-girder!!  Extruding a specific X-section in plastic is pretty much by now a ho-hum technique...tooling-intensive, not capital-intensive...for those in the biz.

KD

You mentioned "...rail lying along existing right-of-way ready for replacement, maintenance?  Lineside racks of 39' rails...a common lineside sight through the early part of the last century. ..." I solved that issue by removing and painting the rails from Atlas O  track.  In fact I suggested to the late Jim Weaver of Atlas O that they should consider packaging lengths (maybe 10 per tube) of O scale track as a separate sale item for just what you mentioned.

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“Does beg the quesstion as to whether 3d can be created continuously while the finish product is being extracted at the same rate....i.e., continuous rail.”



The answer is yes. Google “Print Mill”. It is a 3D printer that prints on a treadmill-esque belt so it can print as long as you can feed filament into the extruder.  They head moves X and Y, the belt functions as infinite Z. I don’t know if any are on the market but I have seen the concept.  I’m sure they’re thousands of bucks if they’re on sale.

You mentioned "...rail lying along existing right-of-way ready for replacement, maintenance?  Lineside racks of 39' rails...a common lineside sight through the early part of the last century. ..." I solved that issue by removing and painting the rails from Atlas O  track.  In fact I suggested to the late Jim Weaver of Atlas O that they should consider packaging lengths (maybe 10 per tube) of O scale track as a separate sale item for just what you mentioned.

Ross does this (#912, msrp $24.95 for pkg of 25 @10" ea.).  Even though it's not solid rail, 'rusted' up (paint) they'd do well as near-39' representatives.

But that works out to $1 per rail!!!  C'mon, man!...a same length of Styrene/ABS should be far less than that!!!

Besides, I have a 7' urban curved trestle w/Gargraves 3-rail, among other bridges.  I'd rather have l-o-n-g lengths of plastic rail to easily/quickly spike in some dandy guard rails.  Hey, if I have to paint them to get them to 'rust', so be it!

BTW...Your rail rack is VERY cool...just like the one shown in that famous Lionel Bantam Book, Model Railroading, discussed in another thread, and like the one I cobbled as a pre-teen in the 1950's from that book.  But I had to use plain sticks of painted wood to represent rails back then!

Removing/painting rails from complete track pieces is always a fall back.  But as I said in my original post, the old brain keeps coming up with other uses for cheap/quick/'non-functional' scale rail.  I'm hoping the plastics guys will bite on this.

Then again, I thought there'd be a decent aftermarket for see-through steel grid roof walks for 40' and 50' boxcars...like the outstanding ones on Atlas, MTH, Lionel pricey top-of-the-line RTR models...like Kadee has made available in HO from their highly successful, highly detailed line of boxcars.  Looking at rooftops of everything, including rolling stock, is a common viewing angle for most layouts.  Why not have decent aftermarket parts for the same??  But I digress.....

KD

Bruce...

The guard rails I'm referring to are shown in this photo...

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...The two rusted rails between the main track rails.  Their purpose is to hold a wheel derailment on the trestle or bridge.  These would be easy to add to regular track that traverses our layout bridges.  Many of the prototype guard rails taper together at either approach to the bridge, ...

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...another feature easily added with plastic rails with the added benefit of not creating an electrical short circuit in the event of an actual wheel derailment.

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Re making a lineside rail rack, or some other use for 39' sections of rail...  It was pointed out that an easy detail to add to plastic rail pieces in such a setting would be the bolt holes at each rail end.  Drilling small holes through plastic rail web would be far easier...and less prone to broken drill bits!...that through nickel silver, brass, tinplated steel, stainless steel, ....ANY metal.  A simple 3-hole jig would make that a fast detail to add at each rail end.

I still think it would be a neat idea to have plastic rails available...pre-colored rusty, or at least easily paintable.

KD

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In these two pics, you can see that I used lengths of Atlas 2-rail rail to form guard rails for my truss bridge:

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Several companies sell rail in bulk for handlaying track.  Rail a little smaller than the running rails will tend to impress their secondary status on the viewer and make fitting them in place easier.

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