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I was just wondering how many of you out there condider lit number boards important?  I ask this because a majority of MTH locomotives come without lit number boards.  These include all RK and early Premiere locomotives, while Lionel on the other hand has lit number boards on just about every locomotive they make. Does MTH really save that much money not putting lit numberboards on their locomotives.  I think not having them takes away from the overall look of the locomotive. I would like others to weigh in on this please.

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I have a lot of PS 2 and PS 1 locomotives and I definitely prefer the lit number boards and even WBB has lit number boards so you would think MTH charging 250.00 or more for a RK locomotive could have lit number boards. This is one reason I am moving over to Legacy and Lionel locomotives because at the very least you get lit number boards even without all the bells and whistles and the same goes for the new WBB True Blast plus locomotives. There must be another way they can save that 10 cents instead of not giving us lit number boards on our RK locomotives.

I would really prefer the lighted number boards, but it wouldn't be a deal breaker if it was an engine I really liked. I agree with others, they should all be lighted these days. I don't see how it could cost that much more when they are building the engine. The boards are capable, the LEDs & wires are cheap and they are already in there working on everything else...

When prototypical, yes. Not a deal-breaker, at all. In fact, I would prefer that they be 

non-illuminated if the lighting is done poorly with hot-spots and glare.

 

Lighting on model locos, even when well-intentioned, can as often as not give

the loco a Happy Holidays look, even in July. Toned down is better (especially those

red/green/white/too bright/often-inaccurate steam class and marker lights - I tend to unplug them).

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

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Number decals and dry transfers are usually available in a lot of different sizes.  These numbers were from a coal car transfer, not used on the car. A little large, but worked.   Dry transfers are a little less forgiving than wet-slide decals.

This older Weaver E8 required installation of small lamps to illuminate the number boards. Marker/class lights were added to both models. Original Weaver E8 models came with one large lamp located in the cab area.  The original lighting was replaced with three small lamps one for each number board and one in the cab area.  Engineer was also added. Weaver set includes to E8's 5753 and 5754.  Clear plastic number boards with black lettering were original to the model(s).

Weaver E8 drive and original cab/number board lighting.

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Hello Tiffany
 
I might be able to help you, are your number boards clear plastic press fit into the cab? If so, could you push it out? It should push out from outside to inside. Let me know if you can get it out. You can contact me on my listed email address or here.
 
Clem k 
 
Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

 

Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

If you can get hold of a label maker you can make numbers on clear tape or black on white or white on black.

I tried doing my NH F3 this morning and here's what it looks like. I just printed out and stuck them to the lens and used a razor to trim. I did not spend much time getting them just right. I did not have white on black.

 

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Originally Posted by clem k:
Hello Tiffany
 
I might be able to help you, are your number boards clear plastic press fit into the cab? If so, could you push it out? It should push out from outside to inside. Let me know if you can get it out. You can contact me on my listed email address or here.
 
Clem k 
 
Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

 

Hello clem k

E-mail sent this morning

thank you,smile

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

Originally Posted by franktrain:
Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

If you can get hold of a label maker you can make numbers on clear tape or black on white or white on black.

I tried doing my NH F3 this morning and here's what it looks like. I just printed out and stuck them to the lens and used a razor to trim. I did not spend much time getting them just right. I did not have white on black.

 

IMG_2648

 

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IMG_2651

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Hello franktrain........

you really did a good job on your number boards

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

Originally Posted by clem k:
Hello Tiffany
 
I might be able to help you, are your number boards clear plastic press fit into the cab? If so, could you push it out? It should push out from outside to inside. Let me know if you can get it out. You can contact me on my listed email address or here.
 
Clem k 
 
Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?  if someone can make 4 of them and I can just glue them on the blank number boards and the light would shine through it just showing the numbers. I WILL pay for them if any one can make them #2393............. The number board size is .630 by .155

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

 

Hello Clem k...........

I will mail the blank number boards tomorrow (Monday).  I am looking forward to the new number boards #2393. Many thank you's

 

the woman who loves the S.F.5011,2678,2003,200

Tiffany

Originally Posted by Tiffany:

hello guys and gals...............

 

in a word "yes" and those MPC era lionel F-3's come with blank number boards and I have some but I don't know how to put numbers on them such as small piece of black plastic film and white numbers done by a printer ?

I have a couple of MPC diesel locomotives, including a Canadian Pacific F3.  One of the first things I did when I got them was to put numbers on the number boards.

 

After removing them from the locomotive, I painted the backs of them white, to diffuse the light from behind.  Then I put a coat of Dullcote on the front, and carefully applied numbers over it, from a sheet of dry-transfer lettering.  Finally, I sprayed Glosscote over the numbers, before returning the number boards to their locomotives.

 

That was back in the Seventies, and they've held up to this day.

 

Thank you Tiffany

 

This is the third one I did, the others where Missouri Pacific and Union Pacific. The numbers are the paint date. All three are post war Lionel and all have a premier QSI reverse board, at the time that was the strongest one made. Used brake fluid to strip the original paint. The first one I did took me three try's before I was satisfied. I don't know if I can still do this kind of work.

 

Clem k

I hadn't realized - and am surprised - that lighted number boards are absent from many MTH engines. I run Legacy, so don't have MTH engines. I really like lighted boards, - can't imagine not having them. It's prototypical, for the most part, and in any case I'm with Bob Severin, as he noted above - the more lights, the better.

 

By the way, on many older Lionel Geeps, F units, etc., I put a couple layers of masking tape inside the cab, covering the number boards. Super easy. You can reduce the light to suit, and it looks a lot better - gives a more realistic background, and makes the numbers, if black, stand out much better.

 

On the older Lionel engines with clear number boards, adding some black letters using one of the methods discussed above, and using the masking tape on the back, transforms the number boards, and really adds a lot to the engine's appearance.

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