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I picked up this one at a recent Stout auction. It was part of a lot of 3 cars plus a loco, tender, and caboose (6 total). I bought the lot really cheap mainly for the 2046 tender to be possibly used for parts. I began cleaning them and I believe none of these cars have ever been run (I’ve bought a lot of cars from Stout and the bay to be able to tell the difference).  The lots were from a big time collector who apparently didn’t run them much, if at all. It’s a Lionel 6464. I’ll be posting the other cars on the ‘buy anything cool’ thread.

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In the pre-war period only American Flyer offered a boxcar with SP Graphics

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While the color scheme of the boxcar was the expected toy train fanciful, the graphics did a good job of mirroring the markings one would have seen on a real SP car of the period as illustrated with this Atlas scale model.

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In the immediate post-war period Lionel offered an SP boxcar in its 6454 car line - the precursor to the well known 6464 series.

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  From the collector's standpoint Lionel offered 3 versions of the 6454 car - tuscan colored with a small SP herald, the same color but with a larger herald with thinner line graphics and a break in the outer edge, and a maroon colored car with the smaller herald.

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With the advent of the 6464 series Lionel decided to go with something more colorful for SP and used the Overnight graphics.

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The really colorful SP cars in red, gray and white with big SP letters had to wait until the MPC period.

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Hello BxCrSun fans, great pictures all.  @Dave Ripp.- neat 50 ' DRG and colorful as well @Krieglok - Great cars as always but really liked the "West India Fruit & Steamship Co" refer @RMT - Ready Made Trains- cool police support boxcar @texgeekboy - good looking MSL 6464, classic Lionel @Craignor- OK a 50 car train...if I put 50 cars behind any locomotive on my layout they would need to go around a second time!  What a feat!! @Sitka - neat string of operating cars @BAR GP7 #63- good looking MEC car @Robert S. Butler - Thanks for the display of SP cars.  I have the Lionel 6454 ones but not the prewar AF or the 6464 it was great to see them.

Well today, I guess I have a bit of foolishness to display, but I enjoy the fun of cars like this...its a Lionel #16629 "Animal Car" complete with Elephant from 1990 -1991. Its part of the Lionel Circus Set from the same year.  I always thought of it as a sort of follow on to the Giraffe cars only with an Elephant instead of a Giraffe.

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Well that's it for me this Sunday morning.  Best wishes to everyone.  Hope you have a happy Holiday and upcoming week

Don

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Hello BxCrSun fans, great pictures all.  @Dave Ripp.- neat 50 ' DRG and colorful as well @Krieglok - Great cars as always but really liked the "West India Fruit & Steamship Co" refer @RMT - Ready Made Trains- cool police support boxcar @texgeekboy - good looking MSL 6464, classic Lionel @Craignor- OK a 50 car train...if I put 50 cars behind any locomotive on my layout they would need to go around a second time!  What a feat!! @Sitka - neat string of operating cars @BAR GP7 #63- good looking MEC car @Robert S. Butler - Thanks for the display of SP cars.  I have the Lionel 6454 ones but not the prewar AF or the 6464 it was great to see them.

Well today, I guess I have a bit of foolishness to display, but I enjoy the fun of cars like this...its a Lionel #16629 "Animal Car" complete with Elephant from 1990 -1991. Its part of the Lionel Circus Set from the same year.  I always thought of it as a sort of follow on to the Giraffe cars only with an Elephant instead of a Giraffe.

Lionel 16629 Circus Elephant Car sideLionel 16629 Circus Elephant Car, elephant head endlIONEL 16629 Circus Elephant Car clown pic end

Well that's it for me this Sunday morning.  Best wishes to everyone.  Hope you have a happy Holiday and upcoming week

Don

Definitely a compliment to the grraffe car Don.  Nice.



Now we need to see a TIGER car .

Gentlemen, now this thread has come alive, @Craignor, Wow, I watched your cool video and Yes Sir, the 50 car train ran superbly on your really nice layout. Thank you for the video. @Don McErlean, yes, you always come up with a surprisingly interesting box car, the elephant in the room, wow, nice car, @Golden Prairie Railroad, Professor Ed, I read your profile and I see you were a college professor, congratulations, and thank you for your colorful contributions to this fun to review thread, @Coach Joe made a comment on the car I’m posting today, Aloha Shake, made by Atlas O, I liked the color, and two other of my favorites. Happy Railroading Everyone 9AE314B5-47B0-45C0-ACB2-A0FAAAA1465E45D55FF7-9C13-494D-BF66-8A05AF105752CBE548EC-5229-4BC3-9BF2-2359F5696CA280DFEA8A-785F-47D8-B48C-4FFB53865A15

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Hello BxCrSun fans, great pictures all.  @Dave Ripp.- neat 50 ' DRG and colorful as well @Krieglok - Great cars as always but really liked the "West India Fruit & Steamship Co" refer @RMT - Ready Made Trains- cool police support boxcar @texgeekboy - good looking MSL 6464, classic Lionel @Craignor- OK a 50 car train...if I put 50 cars behind any locomotive on my layout they would need to go around a second time!  What a feat!! @Sitka - neat string of operating cars @BAR GP7 #63- good looking MEC car @Robert S. Butler - Thanks for the display of SP cars.  I have the Lionel 6454 ones but not the prewar AF or the 6464 it was great to see them.

Thanks Don.

Everyone has some great offerings this week.

The West India car was a nice car, but just a bit plain. The weathering helped make it pop a bit more. I don’t weather cars too often, but I enjoyed fixing this one up a bit…

Tom

@leapinlarry - "Aloha Shake" - sounds like a Hawaii desert drink...never heard of that company before and I see its from "Aloha Washington" really neat car Larry.   In regard to the Aloha company (Aloha Shake and Mill ) the term "shake" refers to a wooden shingle that was used on the roofs / sides of buildings.  They also made solid cedar surfboards.  The company had its own railroad until 1940 into local timberland and was dissolved in 2003.  Neat color scheme and logo however and a really cool car!.

Best Wishes

Don

Here's my custom painted PRR boxcars, they're pulled by triple-headed A-5's.



John,

Nice string of boxcars.  Based on the headlight style/location on the first two A5s, they must be K-Line/Lionel.  Who made the third one?  It looks like an MTH.  If it is, you got them running well together.

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@CAPPilot posted:

Nice string of boxcars.  Based on the headlight style/location on the first two A5s, they must be K-Line/Lionel.  Who made the third one?  It looks like an MTH.  If it is, you got them running well together.

They're all K-Line, just from different years.  The last one, #411, is from Lionel's 2009 catalog.  The lead was a conventional, so I gave it the works, fan driven smoke, ERR cruise and sound, etc.  The other two were TMCC models, and I just added the CC-M to those.

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Nice video John, layouts also looking great.

Thanks, trying to get more time to work on it and start adding scenery.

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