Burned out motor for MTH USRA Premier. Seeking new motor...

see if GGG an ogr forum member and certified MTH tech he had a PCB board for my engine he has an email in his profile can't hurt to ask! 

and he is good to work with a true professional. good luck

If the engine has a Pittman motor in it check with Lionel. They have many Pittmans in stock.

Surprising the motor burned up and the board is OK.

Pete

Check here:

http://www.traindoctor.com/service/mth/railking.php

Thanks for the responses guys. Yes, I believe I did luck out on the board/boards being OK. At least for now. MTH, (Midge), wrote me to let me know that the motors are on back order, so who knows, maybe soon enough, so that I don't have to use a different replacement motor?

I have many new MTH motors. Unfortunately MTH did not list the part number for the motor on their exploded diagram on line. If you can provide a clear picture of the motor, especially the worm gear, I can match up with my stock.  

If he has a 365 motor, he can remove the worm gear and flywheel and modify it to use you existing Flywheel and mount bracket.  This motor does not have a worm gear, rather a flywheel to accept the dogbone.  I do not have the motor in stock, I have one on back order also.  G

The parts breakdown online shows a worm gear. ?

I do not have access to the engine. I left it with a dealer, so no photos right now. The MTH tech is having the same issues that most everyone else has been having, e.g., back order for the motor. MTH informed me that they will notify me and the dealer when the back order is filled. MTH has been very supportive with my past needs, so I guess I'll just have to be patient a little longer. It's a great little engine and my grandsons favorite. He'll just have to run another engine, for a bit. Thank you all for such quick and thoughtful responses to my issue. Best to all, Lou

I took some photos of my RK Imperial USRA 0-6-0 to help, also found 2 I had already taken:

The motor appears to be 1-1/2" long and 1" diameter (27mmx38mm?), I don't see any part numbers.

It only took 4 screws to take apart, no big deal.

Hey Bob, Thanks for the super effort. The motor seems to be the correct one, but I'm just not sure. The USRA engine an MTH Premier version of an 0 6 0; they appear to be the same size though. I'll know more when I talk with the tech. Great photos, and thank you again. Lou

Can the motor be popped out so the worm gear can be photographed?

Not sure? I don't have access to the engine at the moment. I'll check with the MTH tech soon. Thanks, Lou

TRUST ME!  A 2007 MTH Premier 0-6-0 USRA DOES NOT HAVE A Worm Gear.  RK Is different.  G

Well I sure hope Jason at MTH can get locomotive documents available so there is no questions. This is crazy that even service people can't find the right parts for a engine that is almost 10 years old.

I'm hoping that MTH will supply a motor soon enough. As I stated earlier, MTH responded to me within a day or so of my mailing, telling me that they do know what the motor is and that it is back ordered through their supplier. My sending out this help message was in hopes to move things along sooner. I am a bit perplexed though – that it isn't a common enough motor that MTH does not have a ready supply of them. I guess that 9 or 10 years is a bit of a long time for product support, but at my age, it might not seem so.

This has been fun receiving all the great responses to my quest. Such a knowledgeable and caring group of o scale modelers, it's great to be a part of this OGR forum. I hope to support others in the future, should I ever get a real handle on this stuff. Continued thanks for all the help, Lou

I checked my records and the engine I have is 30-1500-1, a RailKing Imperial delivered in December 2008 according to the MTH website.

I repainted it into a Seaboard engine and later modified to BPRC.  It's one of the best, slow-speed engines I have.

It's odd (to me) that the manual doesn't have a parts breakdown, even my RK 2-8-0 manual has the breakdown but not this 0-6-0.

It seems that the majority of the older PS1 engines have detailed parts lists and parts numbers listed for the general public. However, as I've viewed the MTH site for more-recent engines, the parts lists and especially parts numbers, are not as detailed.

I trust George knows what he is talking about. I just hope someday MTH has a least a parts list for loco's that are less common. I know the premier big steam uses dog bone drive shafts, I just wouldn't have expected it in a 0-6-0. Obviously I have not worked on one yet. Example, does the premier PRR B6 0-6-0 also use a motor that uses a dog bone?

Chuck, Aren't all the B-6 Rail King.  Not same motor.  His motor is the BE-1100002.  Used on 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 PR USRA.  Picture is a PR 4-4-0 that uses a similar set up but Motor BE-1100000.  Notice FW at front.  Some of these motors had Allen screw to hold FW to shaft, others pressed on.  I have a few bad motors with good FW.  If I was repairing this I would pull worm and fly wheel from a standard 365 motor of choices.  Trim shafts to length, swap over motor bracket and flywheel from original bad motor. A little more expensive because of labor, but only solution right now.  If some one needs this done, contact me.  I have 365 motors and can do this conversion if you send me your bad motor.

For what ever reason it seems hard to get individual motors that are out of stock made up unless another production run of the same motor type is made.  This is not the only motor out of stock.  I don't understand why the can't get extras made up while current production is in place.  365 and 385 motors are being made for current production, just asking to have a different worm installed could solve some of the shortages.  And in the case of the BE-1100000 and 2 motor you just need a plain 365 motor with no worm or flywheel.  Tech can transfer stuff over.  You need to pull fw anyway because motors do not come with brackets, and you need to transfer original one.   G