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Here is what the little red, white, and blue truck brought this week. A bing 0-35, a kbn I think 0-4-0, unknown telegraph poles, a lionel frisco boxcar, cream color, and a decent flyer silver and green tank car. Not bad for a weeks work. I obviously haven't figured out exactly what I am collecting yet.

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There is no Bing locomotive. The first is a Karl Bub (KBN) No 640, made 1910-1924.

The second is a Karl Bub No 2213 L for 18 Volts or a No 2723 L for high current.



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@pd that’s a really cool cut out shed! On my first look I thought “wow haven’t seen this tinplate work shed yet”. Then I read the post, even after a few more looks- still tough to believe it was cut out from a magazine!

@Craignor love the work train set you put together- great consist led by one coool puffin engine! Also, very nice accessories on the tinplate layout- just saw a version of that platform yesterday, that’s a beaut. Also, much love for that brick depot in your layout in the back

This post excludes some tin I have coming in the mail or pick ups from yesterday’s (Saturday’s) meet at Renninger’s.

Picked up these 3 AC Gilbert Tru-Model 3/16 AF o gauge on eBay. Already have one of the sand cars of this size which is in better shape, it’s interesting to see how they were constructed differently but as I read in a recent article, at this point in production they were just using what they had to get cars out. Uniformity in construction wasn’t a luxury in the late 30s/ early 40s depression and transition to war time production. The 481 crane car and 472 flat with vehicle(sans Tootsie toy) are the new additions!

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Also shown in 1st and 3rd pics above is my new Bing Watch Tower w/ stairs, a base, and a GBN Bavaria logo

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Absolutely love the watchtower, seen more up close on the layout below. But of all the tin I’ve bought recently, maybe due to my age,this modern Marx, or “Line Mar” Y2K mobile power unit is my absolute favorite!

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heck out the generator inside the wonderfully lithographed car, and a front view of the Bing watch tower with an MP Manning it979E31C9-B2DB-4A89-9BA5-6DDF0E14A549

Last,but certainly not least is this original Marx 7” State of Maine Box car .

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The PRR Merchandise Service had been my only Marx 7 inch car up to this point. I’ve always liked tin Marx most of all- 6 inch and 3/16 w/ original(low style) trucks are tied for my favorite, 7” my 2nd favorite , and then the rest. That said, while I’ve always wanted the 6 inch version of the Merchandise service,  the  7” “boxy” style looks great on the  BaR State of Maine and I’m content with it....not that I wouldn’t pass up a 6 inch for the right price

If anyone has advice on what type of car would fit on the AF 472 please let me know! I have a ton of old tootsie and midget toys from the late 30s to early 50s, but figured I’d solicit advice here before digging them out. More to come this week! Enjoy and keep the tin coming!

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I bought an Ives 189 Observation car on EBay, and it was delivered today.

This car completes my wife’s late Grandfather’s set that he had owned since he was a boy, and passed down to me. The complete set is exactly 100 years old this year, officially an antique.

I have been searching for years for this car, and am very very happy with the overall condition of the new addition.



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Here are some additional pics of the KBN 640 I received last week, I already had one, but this one IMG_20210517_095835IMG_20210517_095845IMG_20210517_101211IMG_20210517_101219IMG_20210517_101227was in far better shape. The first two pics show it as received, the rest show it with a headlamp, unbroken buffer and cowcatcher installed. The cowcatcher is removeable so you can run it how you like. Looks a bit odd with cowcatcher and buffers tho.

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@Craignor posted:

I bought an Ives 189 Observation car on EBay, and it was delivered today.

This car completes my wife’s late Grandfather’s set that he had owned since he was a boy, and passed down to me. The complete set is about exactly 100 years old this year.

I have been searching for years for this car, and am very very happy with the overall condition of the new addition.



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It's nice to hear that your wife's late grandfather's set is being used and treasured by someone who appreciates it. This is not always possible when passing on treasured possessions.

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It's nice to hear that your wife's late grandfather's set is being used and treasured by someone who appreciates it. This is not always possible when passing on treasured possessions.

Thanks O Gauge Guy,

I plan on taking it out to a few SGMA shows when we reopen later this year and running it for the public to see. Don’t want to “hide my light under a bushel.”

Grandfather Harry would be so tickled to see this set running again (dead short when I received it, the motor needed to be rewound), and the addition of the Observation car. No doubt Harry is watching from above.

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One of my long-term projects is a Karl Bub elevated railway.

My template is a picture from the Ullmann & Engelmann catalog 1910.

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I made them with 2 straight rail, so I need 8 posts. The baseplates are old Bub parts from buffers and others.

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The station.  Used a few old Bub parts, the railing on the station was a part of a bridge, the railing on the stairway was a lamp post and the post was part of a fence.

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Great pictures all.  Arnie, your craftsmanship in re-creating things of the distant past is just unbelievable.  WOW!  Scott- great sky scraper and neat 1835...your right I have never seen one of those come up for sale. Craig"- what a pleasure to see that century old Ives set run again.  Your patience and effort to bring back your Grandfather's set is just great and it sure looks good running again.  Trainweck99 the KBN loco with the "removable" cow catcher is really unique, shows how important the US market was to the early German toy makers.

Steve from PA...Here is that Marx 6" PRR "Merchandise Service" boxcar that you mentioned you liked...and its principal competitor, the NYC, "Pacemaker" Freight Service box car.   I will admit, I had never seen anything like the "Millennium Recovery Authority" modern Marx car, what a lithograph scheme on that one, what a beauty.  I do remember the Y2K nonsense, I worked as an engineer in Naval aviation at that time and we had visions of aircraft falling out of the sky etc.  Nothing happened...thank goodness.

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Great pictures everyone.  Thanks for posting

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@Don McErlean  Thank you for posting the pics of the 6 inch Merchandise service and Pacemaker! While I love the Meechandise, as previously stated, I really like your Pacemaker with the opening door! Very cool! I happen to have a Pacemaker 3/16 scale but it came with the “big(type D?)” trucks. I took them off and want to replace them with the original 3/16 trucks. I bought some online before but can’t remember if it was ebay or a store-Anyone know of a source?

the litho colors on the Y2K Millinium Recovery authority are definitely something else. What really ties it together are the indicators/words on the car-“Mobile Power Unit”,”stand clear generating equipment” , they really elevate It from something that would be rather gaudy into something a neat train. A train that might just imply, “Tinplate trains and Marx toys return in the New millenium as modern electronics fail”! I have another somewhat outlandish color scheme item coming tomorrow, hopefully!😁

WOW Arne! Fantastic Elevated Railway! The elevated rail sets, in general, have always appealed to me(and I imagine a great many others who post in tinplate). The really cool things is that you used Bub parts to make your Own Bub elevated railway- top notch, sir.

Steve- love those milk cars! While I’m not familiar with Broguirre’s dairy- the script and logo are super crisp. If someone masses produced such a car like that I’d buy it- doubly so if said Borden’s on it! I can’t tell what gauge are those cars?

I don’t have pics yet of all my tin pick-ups in the last 2 weeks, but here are two of my favorites:

You may recall a few weeks ago I scored the Ives 1709 Box car- last weekend at the Renninger’s trains show I picked up the 1708 Stock car-Completing my Ives 1700 large freight series!

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Next on my transition era list are the 600 and 500 series, sans the stock cars unless by God’s grace I’d somehow find one prices south of 200.

Got this next one off eBay for what I believe to be a very reasonable price. Bing drive model Water Wheel/mill Supposed to be run via a steam engine, apparently the hammer on it works. Fits right in with Bing’s other litho buildings and looks nice in open areas. One GBN logo and on bottom of the mill house it says dep. GBN

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@Don McErlean I didn’t realize that the 1708 was that scarce- just knew that the 1708 and the 1709 Box car were harder to find then the gondola and caboose. I believe I paid less for it than the Box car and within $10 of what I paid for the other two- end of a train show Steel for $40 I guess!! Both ladders and all but one journal are intact.

ok, @Robert S. Butler what’s the story on your Millenium power car?!?! THe noticeable differences between yours and mine are the two axles/4 wheels vs 2 axle/4 wheel trucks, the door on the Box car is completely different: Orange with stripes vs Yellow, “NH” at the bottom vs the Y2K script, no port hole windows, and it has “7691” on it- does that match the number on the car?

Then we have the insides- while those look like gold bars and I do agree that toy trains are priceless- I believe it may actually be a different  play on a post Y2K world- instead of it being hoarded gold- it might be something “darker” and in line with the theme of “power”. It obviously isn’t referring to carats(abbreviated ct and representing the weight of gold- I’ll get to Karats after this spiel ha). I believe they may represent some type of power source measured in Kilotons, i.e. explosives or something that yields 24 Kilotons(for comparison the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 15 KT). I actually counted the number of blocks in your car, I noticed 23 on the side shown which would equal 1080 KT(1.08 megatons).  That said, the “KT” is next to the 24, no spacing, which is the proper way to  indicate Karats of gold(Karats representing purity)- in your car the number is right next to the unit of measurement. On the other hand, 24 Karats should be expressed with a lowercase t- as in “24Kt” and 24 Kilotons would be written as “24 KT” with a space but both capital as they are in your car. What to do what to do!!

Regardless, both of the above mentioned ideas fit the post Y2K apocalypse world, and it’s really cool to know that there’s another Mobile Power Unit out there! look forward to hearing the backstory!!

Why didnt’t I just google before writing that essay😔. New Marx made a series of Y2K cars:

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2003- Millenium Recovery Authority Line Mar Power & Light

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I said I had some more tin to post- here we go!

I’ll start with my favorite and most recent:

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How about that lithography! According the Flynns, it’s a production sample that was made for a GE meeting in 1993(hence the corporate slogans)

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As a production sample, it was just a frame for 7 inch cars. Luckily I had a car which I didn’t mind using for this

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I’m sure most don’t, but I sure do love those colors- screams early 90s! Not sure if I like this or the Y2K car more!

Moving on to some Prewar Flyer. Red 1122 Combine car to pair with the 1123 coach which I already had

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Also purchased with the above is the 311267(?) PRR hopper in the background in the pic below. The Marx 3/16 Nickel Plate Gondola was acquired  at a recent train show. Modified it by adding a tilt formed coupler w/ a slot. FA695200-1AC2-44FD-83D8-4E4F77C8810A

bought the beautiful  UP Challenger(above) AWHILE ago, it’s been sitting “trickles” after coming with the wrong trucks. Yesterday, finally fixed it added a Marx 3/16 truck w/ a t/s coupler and a Prewar A/F truck with link coupler. Makes for a nice transition!

Change of pace here, the two pics below are of what I believe to be my maternal Grandfather’s first trainset. He passed Away in 93 when I was about two. I always thought his only trains his Lionel set, but was pleasantly surprised to find this set(and more) in the boxes he had

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Besides the 999, which I believe headed this set, all the cars are in great shape. The 999 is missing it’s front wheels and motor. Sometime in the 70s I assume he replaced it with a diecast Lionel 8204

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Of all the cars, the PRR Box car is my favorite. On that note- I offer up this a weekend tribute to the box cars by Marx, Prewar Flyer 3/16 O gauge, and New Marx!

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Hope you enjoyed! I loved running the consist in the foreground behind a NYC 588 switcher this morning!  Keep the tin rattling those rails!

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@StevefromPA posted:

I said I had some more tin to post- here we go!

I’ll start with my favorite and most recent:

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How about that lithography! According the Flynns, it’s a production sample that was made for a GE meeting in 1993(hence the corporate slogans)

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As a production sample, it was just a frame for 7 inch cars. Luckily I had a car which I didn’t mind using for this

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I’m sure most don’t, but I sure do love those colors- screams early 90s! Not sure if I like this or the Y2K car more!

Moving on to some Prewar Flyer. Red 1122 Combine car to pair with the 1123 coach which I already had

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Also purchased with the above is the 311267(?) PRR hopper in the background in the pic below. The Marx 3/16 Nickel Plate Gondola was acquired  at a recent train show. Modified it by adding a tilt formed coupler w/ a slot. FA695200-1AC2-44FD-83D8-4E4F77C8810A

bought the beautiful  UP Challenger(above) AWHILE ago, it’s been sitting “trickles” after coming with the wrong trucks. Yesterday, finally fixed it added a Marx 3/16 truck w/ a t/s coupler and a Prewar A/F truck with link coupler. Makes for a nice transition!

Change of pace here, the two pics below are of what I believe to be my maternal Grandfather’s first trainset. He passed Away in 93 when I was about two. I always thought his only trains his Lionel set, but was pleasantly surprised to find this set(and more) in the boxes he had

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Besides the 999, which I believe headed this set, all the cars are in great shape. The 999 is missing it’s front wheels and motor. Sometime in the 70s I assume he replaced it with a diecast Lionel 8204

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Of all the cars, the PRR Box car is my favorite. On that note- I offer up this a weekend tribute to the box cars by Marx, Prewar Flyer 3/16 O gauge, and New Marx!

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Hope you enjoyed! I loved running the consist in the foreground behind a NYC 588 switcher this morning!  Keep the tin rattling those rails!

There were 2 styles of GE cars. Yours has the old time type shell. The other version was a 3/16 scale boxcar shell.

Steve

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@Don McErlean  Thank you for posting the pics of the 6 inch Merchandise service and Pacemaker! While I love the Meechandise, as previously stated, I really like your Pacemaker with the opening door! Very cool! I happen to have a Pacemaker 3/16 scale but it came with the “big(type D?)” trucks. I took them off and want to replace them with the original 3/16 trucks. I bought some online before but can’t remember if it was ebay or a store-Anyone know of a source?

the litho colors on the Y2K Millinium Recovery authority are definitely something else. What really ties it together are the indicators/words on the car-“Mobile Power Unit”,”stand clear generating equipment” , they really elevate It from something that would be rather gaudy into something a neat train. A train that might just imply, “Tinplate trains and Marx toys return in the New millenium as modern electronics fail”! I have another somewhat outlandish color scheme item coming tomorrow, hopefully!😁

WOW Arne! Fantastic Elevated Railway! The elevated rail sets, in general, have always appealed to me(and I imagine a great many others who post in tinplate). The really cool things is that you used Bub parts to make your Own Bub elevated railway- top notch, sir.

Steve- love those milk cars! While I’m not familiar with Broguirre’s dairy- the script and logo are super crisp. If someone masses produced such a car like that I’d buy it- doubly so if said Borden’s on it! I can’t tell what gauge are those cars?

Broguirres is the last dairy left in the LA area. They are in Montebello. They no longer have cows due to city ordinances but import bulk milk then process it on site.

The TCA Western Division Convention Car is a flatcar from Menards and 2 Divco Broguirres milk trucks. Really nice.

Steve

StevefromPA - I bought the car from the Flynn's when they were selling a lot of their New Marx prototype cars back in 2008. Here's what they had to say about that car.

  "Marx O-gauge tin lithographed car new, unused from Marx Trains archives collection. Production sample 7603 Line Mar power car, made 1999 for Y2K set. Unsure if mistake or mockup as it has orange 7691 doors instead of Y2K & has gold bullion inside instead of generator.  Who knows, with the price of utilities these days maybe it was a premonition of things to come!$$$$"

  The car has some markings on the underside as well.

Need some help with identification

  A number of years ago I purchased the freight shed illustrated below.  The station has no embossed or rubber stamped manufacturer identification. At the time the seller indicated the manufacturer was Carette. In the years since that purchase I have seen a few examples of this shed show up either at auction or at a train show.  The various sellers have identified the shed as having been made by a number of different manufacturers.

   Over the years since its purchase I have managed to get reference books for Fandor, Carette, Bing, JEP, and others.  These references don't cover every year of production, however, none of the illustrations of offered freight sheds in the books I do have match this station.

  It is very well made and, in addition to the main freight door there is a large side door (note the handle over on the right end) which opens.  I think the station was made for a reasonably long period of time.  I say this because the station comes with several paint schemes.  This one is the most elaborate I've seen,  On others the extra highlighting of the brick is missing and other aspects of the painting have been simplified.

  I would really like to know who made this station so if any of you happen to have a reference that identifies and pictures this station I would really appreciate it if you would post that information.

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That is a good question Robert. It is a generic freight station and made by several manufacturers, Bing and Kraus are the most near the answer I think.  They are not uncommon pieces and there is several color variations. The bing one is supposed to have an opening door on it's side.

Here is a similar one I have, no mark anywhere also and more simple than yours. I have thought Bing during  a long time but would also be happy to learn more. Maybe our friend from Germany, Arne will have the correct answer.

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