Does anyone over here dabble in the early metal Athearn kit cars? specifically tank cars...

Just curious.  I have a shoebox full of them at home and for some reason just got a few more. Has anyone had luck using a later Athearn plastic frame to fix any of the earlier diecast frames?

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Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

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Looks like I have a couple of Mantua diecast tankers as well...They certainly need some work.  Does anyone run these with newer trains.  What type of couplers have you found work on these?  I am familiar with the older standard of Kadee #5's but not sure if they will fit the cast in boxes.  I also see Kadee has introduced versions with the springs integral to the coupler shank.IMG_1442IMG_1444IMG_1446IMG_1462IMG_1463

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Yes ho.  I ahh have kept some (or a lot) of ho stuff over the years.... My first new trains were Athearn ho from about 1970 or so. Still have those although they did not survive well at all.  Hey, at least these are tin and diecast, and so somewhat tinplate

Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

I don't have any of the vintage Athearn or Mantua metal cars... yet.

BUT, I've taken a fancy to Varney's tinplate cars. They look surprisingly good. Just recently I purchased these three Varney's:

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I have already fitted Kadee coupler boxes and Kadee's to the PFE and ATSF car, as well as installed steel wheels and attended to "issues" that I saw.  The MDT reefer is going to take a bit more work on account of the pot metal coupler pocket. These look plenty good enough to run among newer plastic models of such era equipment. I was specifically impressed with the sharp printing on the sides which is better than found on Athearn "Blue Box" injection molded cars!

I still find myself checking eBay for some deals on more Varney metal cars.

Andre

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Yep. 

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I always felt that this era of H0 was the best: maybe because that's when I got started. To my mind you just couldn't beat these and others (Silver Streak, pre-plastic Mantua, Ulrich, etc.) for superior printing, free-standing details, durability (metal, after all). Sure, you had to build 'em, but that's what I liked doing.

Remember the Walther's annual "H0 Railroad Catalog & 'Craft Train' Reference Manual" of those times; a large portion of it was dedicated to parts and details, as well as all those wonderful structure kits.

Very much like post -war Lionel and Flyer, parts were always available, as were matching paints, trucks (think Central Valley), and I think the Kadee type you mentioned were number 58(?); an H0 version of their 0 scale coupler. I'll have to double-check on that.

Mark in Oregon

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I think this D X tanker is a Globe but the frame is not marked.

*****Correction, I found this one in a Thomas Industries catalog and verified the details, it is indeed a Thomas ho tank car.  Really nice one too.

Catalog page courtesy of HO Seeker.com.  BTW, the HO Seeker literature page is excellent!!!!!!!

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ThomasDbl

 

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B394E082-197E-4EA7-BC73-2240349409C6I also picked up this fairly nice Magnolia tanker. It’s an Athearn shorty all metal tank car same as the Crystal car line above.

Oooo! Lovin' me a Magnolia tank! 

My mythical "Kansas City & Gulf" runs from Kansas City, down through Arkansas to New Orleans (the KCS needed some competition!), and passes through Magnolia, AR in the process. (I'm modeling a portion of my KC&G's Ozark Sub as it could have been in the early-mid 1960s.) The KC&G's main shops are at Magnolia, referred to as the "Magnolia Shops" by the railroad/railroaders.

In reality, there was a significant amount of oil industry around Magnolia up into the 70s, I think.

Gotta' have me one of dem' dare Magnolia tanks!

This is a really fun thread. Even by today's "good 'enuf" standards, these old metal cars look good 'enuf!

Andre

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I guess the question will be wether I am man enough to try to install a wrap on my wrapless Mantua tankers.  Nothing to lose really they only cost $3 each.  Maybe I should scan them in first.

 

Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

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I saw some the old boxes.  all the Athearn HO I had were in the blue boxes that they were using into the 1980s at least.  I built many many a kit as a kid.  I loved doing that.

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jbmccormick posted:

I saw some the old boxes.  all the Athearn HO I had were in the blue boxes that they were using into the 1980s at least.  I built many many a kit as a kid.  I loved doing that.

Same for me. My first new trains were Athearn  Blue box  SF GP 35 and F7 in 1972. Before it was my dads Marx and after it was more Lionel . Now it is a mic of everything.

Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

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