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I think I have determined there is a basic electrical incompatibility between Atlas O 200 snap relays and DZ-1000 motors. I want to pass this through the forum to see if anyone has had this experience or if I am all wet. Any comments would be appreciated.

I am using the relays to power DZ-1011R detectors (tape over the IR detector) to indicate turnout position. Like the DZ1000 the center post on the 200 is connected to power. However the L and R posts of the DZ1000 go to common (connected to toggle switches on my control board) while it appears the L and R posts of the 200 go to power (internally - inside the relay). I connected the L/R wires between the DZ1000 and 200 so that throwing the DZ1000  would activate the relay and change the light indication on the DZ1011R. My DZ1000 switch machines would work most of the time but sometimes the motor (control arm on top of the machine ) would not fully switch positions.
While not a hard short I think the 200 relays were affecting the performance of the DZ1000 motors. I removed them from the circuit under the train table and found the switch motors to be a lot more 'lively' now. Time will tell if this is the issue.

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Pretty sure the snap relay is twin coil like the Atlas switch machines. They require a bit of power to operate, maybe too much for the DZ1000, which is not a twin coil device.  Just a guess here but the two devices may not play well together.

I have a snap relay around here somewhere, if I can find it? Probably won't be able to get to it for a few days though.

I have disconnected the Atlas snap relays from all Ross turnouts. I wired a 3-way and a double crossover last night and had zero issues.
It's not that Atlas snap relays are no good - they are fine relays and have the advantage of two separate connections. I am only saying they are not compatible with Z-Stuff motors.

Agreed. That's als what I was hinting at above. I have all but one Atlas switch machines, the one is a DZ1000. Definitely a different beast then the Atlas twin coils. I also think the DZ1000 is a very good switch machine. Thought about switching to DZ1000s, but I really haven't had any trouble with the Atlas machines yet, so I've stuck with those. I think the DZ1008 is the snap relay equivalent for the DZ1000s.

There is nothing wrong with Atlas O switch motors and snap relays so zero need to switch them out for DZ-1000's. Once I get my remaining snap relays and switch motors tested to make sure they function I will be putting them up for sale on the 'for sale or trade' forum at a low cost so if you are looking for spares keep checking there.

Joe

Atlas (200) snap relays have built in NC/NO contacts for either power routing, or switch accessory connection. The DZ 1000 switch motor requires the DZ 1008 relay addition to achieve the same functions.  Most older Atlas switch motors do not have the contacts, though there was an interesting PC board, with the track side dwarf lights, that achieved dwarf light signal change, without a signal switch NC/NO contact.

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