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I was working this evening on an AF prewar 565.  I need to get the chassis out to work on the wiring, but I can't get the chassis out of the boiler.  I've taken off everything that is screwed on some I've got just the chassis with motor and the boiler.  The front of the chassis swings up and I can move slightly forward but can't get it to come out.  It seems to pivot around a point about two thirds of the way to the rear.  What is the secret of removing this  ?

I have a general question about prewar AF locomotive wiring.  Wiring is usually basically the same.  I've learned that in postwar AF S gauge, the field and the brushes are wired in parallel, and the motor is reversed by swapping which brush is connected to each side of the field.  Is this also true of prewar engines, or they series wired ?

I've checked all previous topics for the 565.  I saw the wiring diagram but that doesn't clearly show what the actual connections are

I'm thinking in contrast to Lionel engines which, with a few exceptions, were wired in series.  The field is grounded on one side and connected to a brush on the other.  The other brush is connected to power.  Reversing is done by swapping which brush connects to power and to the field.

I hope someone can tell me what I'm not doing to get that 565 mechanism out of the boiler.

ML

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There are 2 retaining clips on the boiler and fit into 2 slots in the frame. They are about mid-way on the boiler. You need to move the motor chassis slightly forward and wiggle the rear till it drops out. Wiring is different between prewar and postwar 565's. The prewar version has the pick-ups on the tender with a wire running between the tender and locomotive. The postwar version the pick-ups are on the locomotive chassis and no wire between loco and tender.

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