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@Ron H posted:

Great scene ! Sure wish you'd go to Kadees.

Ron H

Kadee’s, not for me. More to it than people know. I have a dozen reasons.



  1. They are not practical or cost effective in 3r O because there are too many variations in cars and engines. It would cost me well over a grand to convert everything.
  2. I see hacked up cars on a regular basis, something I don’t want to deal with or do to my stuff. It all works well as is. No one studies couplers on a passing train as it goes by.
  3. Rollers removed, and lights are no longer.
  4. Wheels/ flanges are still incorrect plus you still have skinny axles.
  5. Too many size bolsters and height modification, spacers, screws, etc.
  6. Some cars require removing 2r couplers and boxes in order to take apart to weather the car, not good.
  7. Limited 2r roads, dealers and stock. Can’t fine an abundance of items anywhere.
  8. Higher cost.
  9. Still have that middle rail , so what's the point?
  10. I would loose the DCS uncoupling function via remote on all my engines.
  11. Still have the Fixed P. issue on the trucks.
  12. Some converted cars to 2r wont navigate 036 and 042 curves as the wheels hit the chassis parts.
    What ever you like is OK with me. When MTH Premier, Weaver and Lionel all provided us True O SCALE cars & engines, it should have been in 2  rail only, never 3r. Atlas 2r set the bar, all should have followed including making tracks, switches and buildings as well. Should follow a standard like H.O. MFG's caused this mess we are forever stuck with for economic reasons.
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@SIRT posted:

Kadee’s, not for me. More to it than people know.



  1. They are not practical or cost effective in 3r O because there are too many variations in cars and engines. It would cost me well over a grand to convert everything.
  2. I see hacked up cars on a regular basis, something I don’t want to deal with or do to my stuff. It all works well as is. No one studies couplers on a passing train as it goes by.
  3. Rollers removed, and lights are no longer.
  4. Wheels/ flanges are still incorrect plus you still have skinny axles.
  5. Too many size bolsters and height modification, spacers, screws, etc.
  6. Some cars require removing 2r couplers and boxes in order to take apart to weather the car, not good.
  7. Limited 2r roads, dealers and stock. Can’t fine an abundance of items anywhere.
  8. Higher cost.
  9. Still have that middle rail , so what's the point?

The point for me anyway. I love your weathering !

F7 freightI%20H%200!

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Larry was worried about being late for FEF but here I am posting on Monday.  Talk about being late.  I picked up this Thread this morning with Rob Leese's Texas Zephyr which were followed by more Frisco beauties.  Here are my Frisco engines, from Lionel on the opposite end of the beauty spectrum.IMG_1554IMG_1555

From what I understand the red isn't even the right shade but this Fallen Flag set caught my eye in the hobby shop and came home with me.  Years later I came across a second engine and caboose at a train show so now I can run two Frisco trains or double head a freight.

By the way, Larry, early, late, whenever; pictures of that Hudson fresh out of Harmon shops are always welcome.

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@Dallas Joseph - ever so often, I do things RIGHT - in this case, I am very pleased with these engines.

Both Berwyn Trains and McMuffins Trains have websites where they list all of the custom runs they have setup with MTH. You can preorder or buy the item if they already have them in stock from their website. There are several other dealers here on the forum that offer some really nice items, almost too many to mention because I have bought items from many of them and don't want to do WRONG and forget to mention them. On the MTH website, you can use the Product Locator and find all of the custom runs for 2022 and 2023.

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Gee, leapinlarry, after reading the first part of your post, I thought we were about to see "electrical outages, 79 mile an hour winds, trees down, houses hit by trees, rubbish blowing everywhere, street light signals blinking, traffic at a crawl, unbelievable weather… ", all on your layout. I'm glad to see all that weather action had so little impact on your tiny community!

FWIW, all I can offer to counter your weather woes is the beginnings of a thunderstorm:

[BTW, since I shot the video, I have since added voice activation that turns off the main lights and initiates the storm sequence, and reverse the process to shut down the storm and restore the lights.]

Here's a FeF late night submission.

Front end of Lionel Western Pacific EMD F7 #918-D from ground level on my Paradise, CA layout.

Here's a link to a photo of the real thing on the Niles Canyon Railway (ncry.com). I've had the privilege of riding on a train pulled by 918-D on Niles Canyon Railway in all it's orange glory.

https://www.ncry.org/about/col...estern-pacific-918d/

Notice the font size on the real 918-D compared to the Lionel model. From the information I was able to find online the large font Lionel used was from when 918-D pulled the California Zephyr. The font was changed to a smaller font when 918-D was switched to freight duty. I'm sure you can see there other differences for yourself.

I've had the Lionel WP F7 ABA set for about 3 years and just noticed the paragraph in the users guide about the sounds for this model. The Lionel Railsounds were recorded from the real WP 918-D in Niles Canyon. Here's a photo of the Lionel Users guide on page 2 thanking the NCRY, The Pacific Locomotive Association, and Five Chimes Consultants for the recording.

Here's the Lionel model engine and horn sounds.

Happy Friday and a grand weekend to you all.

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