Has anyone seen these kits before - Really nice

I was at York and found two of these brass kits. One is a flat car and the other a hopper. They are really nice, and have great detail. Can anyone tell me more? How many kits did they make. Can they still be found?

 

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I am going to add some Kadees to it... Should I paint it?

 

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JDaddy-That car looks real nice just as it is! Like you plan, I would add the Kadees to it and done as it looks weathered to me and ready to run.

 

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I was at York and found two of these brass kits. One is a flat car and the other a hopper. They are really nice, and have great detail. Can anyone tell me more? How many kits did they make. Can they still be found?

 

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I am going to add some Kadees to it... Should I paint it?

 

I love old pieces like this. I 3-rail them to the degree needed and "friendly" to the model's construction (complete 3RO trucks; Hi-rail wheels in the original trucks and dummy Hi-Rail couplers in the pockets; sometimes the wheels already have adequate flanges). I modify the cars as little as possible - unless it's a kit, then, well, it's a kit.

I wouldn't paint it, either. Couplers, decals and run it. Nice.

The are Japanese imports, but mine are buried...so comments might err, l have always heard these called "international", imported soon after WWII.  I have several different freight cars: stock, box, etc. There were steam engines...l don't think I have one but there was a Hudson or Pacific?, and l think a switcher.  There were two cabooses, an east coast, and a UP styled one that l have.  I wonder if anybody has done an article on them?  Every one l found need Bsasso and paint. None painted...

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??Another one of THOSE!!??  What you want to sell is not what I want to buy!

Interesting... I am soaking them in vinegar as I speak, the hopper came out bright and shinny. The flat car is still soaking.

I figured I better paint them from preventing them from turning green at the solder joints.

Could you post pictures of the additional kits if and when you dig them out? Ever think of selling yours?

 

TCA Number 16-71884

Internationals was a 50's and 60's importer of Japanese trains.  I have examples in HO and O scale.  In HO they made a metal, plastics and wood kit of 60' streamline passenger cars.  I have two, but the plastic frame is broken on one.  They came with full interiors, much like a Walthers kit.  I also have a Bo-Bo brass electric switcher based on a Japanese narrow gauge prototype re-gauged to O scale.  Decent detail.  It is 17/64" scale.  IMGP1654_EDIMGP2349_EDIMGP2350_EDIMGP2351_ED

Jonathan Peiffer

 

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Nice flatcar. And I like the way it sits---LOW on the trucks. I see a gray one of these listed on the "bay" under "brass" for $70.  Sounds reasonable for brass.  This model really cries out for a wooden deck and a few other details, like Andrews trucks.  Is it true that International models were built from spent American artillery shells? -Salty Rails-

Those are International Models and another freight car they did was a B&O wagon top boxcar.      I have 2 of them.

They also did B&O C16 switchers - the "dockside" 0-4-0 tank and the version with tender.   I had both at one time in 3 rail.    apparently they could be gotten that way, 

These are early brass and the detail is not as good as Max Grey which came later and then US Hobbies which took over from Max Grey.     I paid about 40 for each of my cars and that was OK.   I think 70 is too high for a car with this level of detail.   It does not compare with newer brass done in the last 10-20 years in detail etc.    That is just my opinion.   

As for the locos, they are are pretty crude mechanically.    Basic size and detail is OK, but the mechanisms are rough.    also all the ones I have seen including pacifics and atlantics did not have axle bearings.    The axle was simiple mounted through holes in the brass channel frame.    If you look at newer stuff, most if not all have bearings mounted in the frame for the axles.    I don't think the old Internationals would stand up to much heavy running.    But for a home layout as I had with the 0-4-0s, they never did show wear to me.

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That may be the "other" caboose and not the "UP". While l think I've only seen one or two lately, they were fairly common in the '80's. 

 

 

 

That's a "Northeastern" style caboose. Originated with the Reading, also inspired similar designs on the CNJ and LV.

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