Help repairing a K-line with TMCC- sounds but no movment

Have you tried a reset? That would be first on my list. 

How do you do a reset ?

The instuctions with the unit should give you the code, but make sure the run program is in run during a test.  If still no joy place the switch in program, power up track:

 

ENG

#1 (example0

Set

Eng

1

AUX1

(Engine code try 8 for diesel)

Turn power off

wait 10sec and place switch back in run

 

Start track power and test.

 

If no joy, trace wiring to motor driver and make sure no broken wires under insulation.   G

If that engine has K-Line cruise control you will want the instructions to do a reset. There's a specific code for a diesel with K-Line cruise and smoke, and not using the right code can cause it to not move. Unfortunately I don't have the specific code for that engine as I don't have any K-Line diesels with cruise. The information about there being a different code came from the instructions for a steamer with cruise.

 

One thing to check is that the program/run switch is in RUN position. If it has been inadvertently moved to Program, the engine will not move. 

The K-Line cruise documentation is in the documentation thread pinned to the top of the forum topic list.

 

tried the engine with tmcc cab 1 and the engine ran fine, but when coupled with the other powered unit it was a little jerky but the engine moved.  I cannot get it to run in conventional.  I am a bit puzzled now

Is the failure to move in conventional a new problem, or did you just get the locomotive? I had a brand-new K-Lionel SD75 club engine that came out of the box working OK in TMCC mode, but it wouldn't run in conventional. I sent it back and they replaced the R2LC (radio) board under warranty. It's run fine ever since.

 

You could also have a reset issue if your engine has K-Line cruise control. This is a quote from an instruction sheet I downloaded on resetting K-Line engines with cruise:

If the R2LC is not told it has cruise, it will not run in non command.

Check your instruction manual for the correct reset procedure and codes for your engine. I have a cheat sheet that I could post, but the codes are for a steamer so I'd rather refer you to the manual in case they are different for your diesel. The code for K-Line cruise is 7, but it is entered in combination with another code. 

 

Bill, I had this same issue with K-Line cruise.  Works fine in TMCC no motion in conventional.  I may try the 74 code for my steamer.  G

 

GGG, this is a K-line Cruise version also..I will try resetting it , and if not I believe I have a radio board to try swapping with ... I'll keep you posted

I just used 74 and it doesn't improve.  I have seen this on a factory cruise version and my own upgrade cruise.

 

Works great in command, but only crawls along in conventional  I don't know if others have the same experience, I asked this a week or 2 ago.  I think cruise would need to be turned off to work right.

 

I can't explain it, wish there was someone with more knowledge on what K-line was doing with code.   G

When the K-Line cruise is working, it works quite well.  However, I've had a couple that I could never get working "right", I guess there's a "magic touch" on those.

 

 

You're probably right, I have a couple that have ERR Cruise Commander M boards in them, they run fine now.

 

 

We just gad this discussion a couple of days ago.
GRJ noted that that was a typo on his part.

Code 78 is sometimes the code for Diesel with cruise and smoke. Otherwise it is 8.
The reason I say sometimes is because my 4-6-6t with cruise and fan driven smoke uses code 74 per the K-line manual

My K-line scale Berkshire with cruise and puffer smoke uses code 4 per the manual.
My K-line Pa-1 without smoke or cruise uses code 8.

I would try code 78 first than code 8
Code 74 is for Steam

Not totally sure but I believe I was told the 7 inverts the Serial Data required for conventional. Or something like that. 
The 8 is always the Diesel code

Also I believe if you shut the cruise off it should work in conventional without the correct code as long as you use 8 for diesel

I am starting to question The cruise reset code. I know John just reposted from elsewhere because I have found it also but in only one place and then another form.  It may do something but I'm not sure what. I have never seen it printed in any K-line reference manual. Only hand typed in a forum thread. I do wish somebody else could provide documentation. I have tried and never have been successful.